Are you sending your neighbors to Hell?

[Jack]

I’ll personally hand $1,000 in cash to anyone who can demonstrate that I’ve never tried it.

So do it.

Why, I ask again, do you continue to do this to yourself?

Is this what bothers you?

Rev 20 They will be tormented day and night FOREVER ...

 

[Matthias]

So do it.

My offer was conditional, just like immortality is.

Is this what bothers you?

Rev 20 They will be tormented day and night FOREVER ...

I’m not bothered by anything written in scripture.

 

[Jack]

My offer was conditional, just like immortality is.

I’m not bothered by anything written in scripture.

Jesus is God and Hell Fire is everlasting. Agree?

 

[Behold]

So do I.

You believe in your version., as you defined it.

 

[Matthias]

Jesus is God and Hell Fire is everlasting. Agree?

Again?

 

[Matthias]

You believe in your version., as you defined it.

Even the trinitarians who agree with me on this issue didn’t define the version.

 

[RLT63]

Even the trinitarians who agree with me on this issue didn’t define the version.

Sometimes there’s nothing to be gained from arguing

 

[St. SteVen]

Just now seeing this thread although it’s a year old.

“Are you sending your neighbors to hell?” in context of hell and neighbors, if you mean literal … I can’t say since I haven’t really met all my neighbors yet(just moved). I see my neighbors out mowing and working in the yard, but I don’t know them well enough to send them to hell.

I think you are missing the point here. You don't need to know someone to "send them to hell."
In fact, if you believe in hell, NOT knowing them WILL send them to hell.

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[St. SteVen]

My brother, no one has gone to Hell

On this point we agree. Thanks.

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[St. SteVen]

I’m not sure what I believe about Hell anymore. I have a book, Four Views On Hell and I’m not sure which view best represents the Biblical model. I have a hard time understanding why a person who lives 80 to 100 years at most would suffer for eternity. One thing I believe about Hell is that I don’t want to go there.

Great post, thanks.
I'm aware of three views on hell. I'm curious about the fourth view. Please inform me.
Here are the three that I know of:
1) Damnationism
2) Annihilationism
3) Universalism (UR)

All three are biblical and all three are in conflict. I chose the one that best fits the character of God as I understand it.

I have a hard time understanding why a person who lives 80 to 100 years at most would suffer for eternity.

Jesus paid our debt, yet he did not suffer for all eternity. It makes no sense the we would pay a greater debt than he did for us.

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[VictoryinJesus]

I think you are missing the point here. You don't need to know someone to "send them to hell."
In fact, if you believe in hell, NOT knowing them WILL send them to hell.

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I’m meeting them, my literal neighbors. I just moved here….a couple of months ago. We are getting to know each other. I wave, they wave then we strike up a conversation. Small one but they are nice and welcoming here.

Stephen, I was being sarcastic though when I posted that. I read the title and thought of how often people beat you to keep it literal. So I asked which neighbor was I being asked if I am sending them to hell: The house on my left or the house on my right, or the house across from our house. I’m obviously not good at sarcasm.

 

[RLT63]

Great post, thanks.
I'm aware of three views on hell. I'm curious about the fourth view. Please inform me.
Here are the three that I know of:
1) Damnationism
2) Annihilationism
3) Universalism (UR)

All three are biblical and all three are in conflict. I chose the one that best fits the character of God as I understand it.


Jesus paid our debt, yet he did not suffer for all eternity. It makes no sense the we would pay a greater debt than he did for us.

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I think the other view was that the person suffered for a time in Hell and then when they had been punished they were annihilated. I can’t remember what it is called.

 

[Matthias]

I think the other view was that the person suffered for a time in Hell and then when they had been punished they were annihilated. I can’t remember what it is called.

If it really is true that there are three (or four) conflicting views of hell that are all biblical then wouldn’t it also be true that the Bible contradicts itself?

I think there is a problem with his premise.

 

[RLT63]

If it really is true that there are three (or four) conflicting views of hell that are all biblical then wouldn’t it also be true that the Bible contradicts itself?

I think there is a problem with his premise.

Of course only one is correct but I don’t presume to know which it is.
It’s kind of like free will and predestination, you can find scripture to back up both.

 

[RLT63]

Of course only one is correct but I don’t presume to know which it is.
It’s kind of like free will and predestination, you can find scripture to back up both.

Jos 24:15 - And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you thisday whom ye will serve;whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.

Rom 8:29 - For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to beconformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among manybrethren.

 

[St. SteVen]

I’m meeting them, my literal neighbors. I just moved here….a couple of months ago. We are getting to know each other. I wave, they wave then we strike up a conversation. Small one but they are nice and welcoming here.

That's the idea. There will be lots of opportunities for you to live the Christian life before your neighbors.

Stephen, I was being sarcastic though when I posted that. I read the title and thought of how often people beat you to keep it literal. So I asked which neighbor was I being asked if I am sending them to hell: The house on my left or the house on my right, or the house across from our house.

I'm actually a Christian Universalist, as you may know.
So, I do want to be a witness to my neighbors, but not because I believe they are headed for a forever burning hell.

I’m obviously not good at sarcasm.

It takes some work. Keep at it, you'll get the hang of it in a couple years. - LOL
(see how that works?)

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[St. SteVen]

Of course only one is correct but I don’t presume to know which it is.
It’s kind of like free will and predestination, you can find scripture to back up both.

I think we need to leave room for other opinions when the "right" answer isn't obvious.
I'm pretty sure you wouldn't agree with everything the poster you were just replying to believes.
Nor with me. I'm fine with that, he isn't.

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[Matthias]

I'm pretty sure you wouldn't agree with everything the poster you were just replying to believes.
Nor with me. I'm fine with that, he isn't.

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You’re mistaken about me. It depends on what the issue is.

You’ll accept anything and everything because, as you’ve said, you don’t know what true doctrine is and don’t think anyone else really does either.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Well, I don't think so.

I'm just pointing out that no Christian is going to pay attention to a non-Christian trying to instruct them in anything because they have no standing seeing they reject the Lord.

 

[RLT63]

I think we need to leave room for other opinions when the "right" answer isn't obvious.
I'm pretty sure you wouldn't agree with everything the poster you were just replying to believes.
Nor with me. I'm fine with that, he isn't.

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I no longer believe that the way I was taught and what I always read ( that confirmed what I was taught)
Is the only possibility. There are issues where there is no room to consider other views, I don’t believe Hell is one of them.