As a rule, "partially right, most of the time" is moral.

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Gottservant

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Was it Rahab that hid the spies?

And the moral of the story is...

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I think in that situation you have something that is needed, but which you can't "moral" simply because it was needed.

(Just to go back to the OP) The beauty of this proverb is that it is very easy to bring to mind, does not burden and focuses on the good.
 

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This reminds me somewhat of Aristotelian virtue ethics, It's about developing a certain way of being in the world through practice, which invariably involves trial, error, and getting it partially right.
I am in moral agreement with you!
 

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Being partially right, is something we can do consciously or unconsciously, in our dreams or while we are awake. As such we are able to be moral "most of the time". In other words, moral morality is possible (this speaks of the truth of the silver line - that this type of morality is called).

If it were possible to call morality "partially right, most of the time" but there was no way to be right for any length of time, morality would be impossible - but that is not how God has created us.
 

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More than moral, is inspirational for a time - but despairing over a correction, wearies the soul (selah)
 

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The point of this rule "be partially right, most of the time and you will be moral" is that it allows you to be imperfect, to deviate from morality, without abandoning it, without refusing to return to it.

Not only does the Law always provide a way to fulfil the Law, the Law provides a way out of having to fulfil the Law immediately.

These two things make it easy to understand and trust Jesus!
 

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White lies are lies. Jesus said we should not make vows to God because we do not have full control of circumstances. We cannot turn a hair black or white. Matthew 5. vs 33-37
 

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White lies are lies. Jesus said we should not make vows to God because we do not have full control of circumstances. We cannot turn a hair black or white. Matthew 5. vs 33-37
Trying to be right all the time is self-righteousness (sin); not persevering when you have been given the faith is ungodly (also sin).

Do you understand that your moral standard has to be both reasonable and doable?
 

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The point of this rule "be partially right, most of the time and you will be moral" is that it allows you to be imperfect, to deviate from morality, without abandoning it, without refusing to return to it.

Not only does the Law always provide a way to fulfil the Law, the Law provides a way out of having to fulfil the Law immediately.

These two things make it easy to understand and trust Jesus!


The problem with your theory is it takes no account of how God views his law and our compliance with it.
 

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The problem with your theory is it takes no account of how God views his law and our compliance with it.
Yes it does! God obeys the silver line: He does not Judge prematurely (see Sodom and Gamorrah), nor does He keep Creating when enough has been Created (He rests on the Sabbath).

You need to think of examples, where you can do too little or be over-zealous - the silver line, takes a balanced approach.

I can understand why people with black and white thinking would find this hard, but its the truth!
 

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Yes it does! God obeys the silver line: He does not Judge prematurely (see Sodom and Gamorrah), nor does He keep Creating when enough has been Created (He rests on the Sabbath).

You need to think of examples, where you can do too little or be over-zealous - the silver line, takes a balanced approach.

I can understand why people with black and white thinking would find this hard, but its the truth!

Gods judgement is perfect.
and our morality, no matter what it is based on is useless. Salvation is through faith in what God has done for us, not our keeping moral rules.
 

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As Christians, what this rule means, is that we don't need to be stressed out that we will never sin again or that we need to know what God thinks, from one second to the next.

The Silver Line says "Just try to improve your Christianity, bit by bit, if you want to do it morally"
 

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This sort of reminds me of the difference between (absolute and objective) morality. Absolute being that the moral is always right regardless of context. You can never lie.

Whereas objective morality or what I prefer as moral realism is context based. The idea that within any moral situation there is an objective moral in how to behave. That may change with the circumstances.

For example its moral to lie to the Nazis to save the Jews in the basement as in this particular situation saving human life is utmost. In fact the person has already committed to that moral truth by hiding the Jews.

But if the situation was that a person was hiding a criminal in their basement and lied to the police about his whereabouts. Then lying is wrong.

So each and every situation is different and we can navigate the moral objective or truth for that situation. Depending on the context. Sometimes morals intersect.

It also allows for the new information or contextes to update the truth for that situation. For example It may be that the Jews in the basement were actually wanted for crimes and the officers at the door were actually police mostaken as Nazis.

Or it may be that new evidence or information comes along and reveals new ways to see the facts and truth. Society and even the church use to think certain practices or positions were moral. Only to realise they were not.
 
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This sort of reminds me of the difference between (absolute and objective) morality. Absolute being that the moral is always right regardless of context. You can never lie.

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Or it may be that new evidence or information comes along and reveals new ways to see the facts and truth. Society and even the church use to think certain practices or positions were moral. Only to realise they were not.
I think too - just reflecting on what you wrote - that there is a sense that whatever your situation, whether you believe you have evolved and don't owe anyone anything, or you believe you are the seventh generation of a noble king, there are things that are right for you to do and the expectation is that you will attempt to do them most of the time.

Great thoughts, brother - I really enjoyed reading your post!