Avoiding : The Cults.. #2 : CALVINISM -"TULIP"

[BlessedPeace]

It's not worth going back and forth... I've stated the truth according to God's Word. That's all I care to discuss. Truth.

You're not though.

I quoted straight from scripture, unlike you. I don't think any amount of further discussion will help you see.

You obfuscate scripture. Omitting what conflicts with your ideal version.

That's not honor of the truth.

 

[Ritajanice]

It's not worth going back and forth... I've stated the truth according to God's Word. That's all I care to discuss. Truth. I'm already born again, from age 13 ....from imperishable and incorruptible seed. I don't need to continue going in circles with this topic.

Your choice..I’m open to discussion on that thread.

 

[Ritajanice]

You obfuscate scripture. Omitting what conflicts with your ideal version.

Sorry, I’m done here, but I must say Amen to this...

 

[BlessedPeace]

Your choice..I’m open to discussion on that thread.

Don't forget,sister.

They will never see until the Holy Spirit enters and leads them to now understand what you read them judging as foolish.

They are,as are many in the world,trying to defend their natural understanding. Which is foolishness. And is why we others see that and they do not .

 

[Ritajanice]

Don't forget,sister.

They will never see until the Holy Spirit enters and leads them to now understand what you read them judging as foolish.

They are,as are many in the world,trying to defend their natural understanding. Which is foolishness. And is why we others see that and they do not .

100% Amen!!!

 

[amigo de christo]

Don't forget,sister.

They will never see until the Holy Spirit enters and leads them to now understand what you read them judging as foolish.

They are,as are many in the world,trying to defend their natural understanding. Which is foolishness. And is why we others see that and they do not .

Let all praise and thank the Lord .
On the day of the LORD many will wail . for they offered up false hope and false love
and bought into the diverse inclusive love that cameth not of GOD but of the world .
Just remember that since the day i appeared on this site and long before that on other sites
i ceased not day and even night to remind all about the dire need to BELIEVE ON JESUS the CHRIST
and warned often and daily against the false love which made it seem as though it mattered not what one believed
so long as they love their neighbor . Remember that .
Remember who i pointed too
Remember i gave no false hope to anyone but rather rebuked false hope non stop pointing only TO JESUS CHRIST
and reminding all to get in the bible to learn for themselves .

 

[amigo de christo]

100% Amen!!!

any spirit that gives out false hope to the lost and brings the idea that other relgioins serve the same God we do
AINT COMING FROM GOD . THE SPIRIT of GOD , OF CHRIST , TESTIFIES OF JESUS CHRIST .
you hold that to the end sister . Let none be moved away from the true gospel and into another diverse and inclusive false one .
always remember that , for since the day i first appeared on this site
until even now i never once gave out any kind of false hope to anyone . Rather i pointed to the DIRE and aboslute need
to BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST . giving no other religoin any hope than to REPENT TO BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST .
And reminding all daily and often to get into the bible for themselves . its always been a real simple message from me .

 

[amigo de christo]

Dear amigo de christo,
You do not understand conversion. All mankind is condemned to perish because all mankind has sinned. Christ did not come to stop mankind from paying their sin debt of death - He came to make us into a new creation before we pay that debt.

After the final age ends, all mankind will have perished in the Lake of Fire because all mankind are sinful children of the devil. But in contrast, the Kingdom of Heaven will be that much fuller because all mankind will be "born again" as children of God.

When you read verses like the one below, don't think that Christ is not going to convert the "slain" into children of God before they perish.

Isa 66:16 For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many.

The death of the child of the devil is a necessary component of conversion. The old vessel must be destroyed and a new vessel created.

Jer 18:4 And the vessel that he made of clay was marred in the hand of the potter: so he made it again another vessel, as seemed good to the potter to make it.

After a person is converted into a child of God, they are no longer condemned by the Law because the new child of God is sinless. However, the child of the devil (who they used to be) is not sinless, and because of such, the child of the devil is shown to be destroyed by Christ's judgment.

Joe

Many will have perished in the lake of fire , i sure deserved it .
EXCUSE me while i go praise the glorious LORD . FOR DUE TO HIM and HIS MERCY and GRACE
this lamb WONT NEVER SEE that hellhole . I dont know where on earth you are getting you info from
but it aint the bible and it aint GOD or CHRIST or the SPIRIT .
now PREACH , TEACH and SPEAK the true life savinggospel of JESUS CHRIST , Cause
ITS TIME TO DO SO . you remind all about the dire and absolute dire need to BELIEVE ON HIM .
NEVER let the false religoins beleive they serve the same GOD we do . DONT fall for a lie
and dont buy a false hope and false love . TIME TO PREACH JESUS . IF we , AS DO GOD , desire the death of none
THEN WE as DID GOD need to TESTIFY OF JESUS CHRIST . be not as many who give out false hope
cause it aint gonna save anyone to do so . IT might get a big cumbyia feel good welcome unity party , BUT ITS GONNA Damn
ever last one of them . FOR THOUGH hand join in hand the WICKED WILL NOT GO UNPUNISHED . no matter if man tries to say otherwse .
Budda cant save squat nor can any other false religoin . BUT JESUS CAN . TIME TO PREACH HIM my friend . WHILE
there still be time to do so .

 

[TLHKAJ]

That's not scripture.

You've placed your own twisted interpretation on scripture. I have given soooooo many scriptures to back what I've said. I'm not going to be persuaded to believe a lie.

 

[amigo de christo]

You've placed your own twisted interpretation on scripture. I have given soooooo many scriptures to back what I've said. I'm not going to be persuaded to believe a lie.

beware , let us all take heed . A lie has been presented unto christendom and the world
to merge its religions and peoples to be as one . This lamb WONT BUY THAT LIE .
JESUS has the sheep . MARCH ON SISTER . This lie has come in under the guise it is love and it is of GOD .
But it is only of He who desired and desires to be AS GOD . EL DIABLO HIMSELF
and he has many co workers who work on his coexist bridge building unity lie . Now march onwards in the trenches .
Let none , no not even one who names the name of CHRIST enter into UNITY with
this father of lies who has come to merge mankind and its religoins to merge as one .
The devil wears more than prada sister , as you know , HIMS and his co workers can and DO wear wool .
We must stick to the original GOSPEL of JESUS CHRIST and let us offer up NO OTHER HOPE
for any other hope is but a lie that will drown them all in destruction and perdition of ungodly men
who loved a lie .

 

[TLHKAJ]

Your choice..I’m open to discussion on that thread.

There's nothing more to discuss. You have been given the truth and you choose to twist it into a lie... as do some others here pushing a false God. God is not duplicitous, which is exactly what Calvinism teaches.

James 1:17-22
[17]Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.
[18]Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.
[19]Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath:
[20]For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.
[21]Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
[22]But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

 

[amigo de christo]

There's nothing more to discuss. You have been given the truth and you choose to twist it into a lie... as do some others here pushing a false God. God is not duplicitous, which is exactly what Calvinism teaches.

James 1:17-22
[17]Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.
[18]Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.
[19]Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath:
[20]For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.
[21]Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
[22]But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

Let all who have ears to hear , hear .
those who follow and adhere to calvin can be seen as a man who desired to relieve himself upon the comode
and rather than sitting he stood on the comode . that man was high on the pot . let none smoke
of the peace pipe of calvin , let none put his two lips unto the pipe of TULIP . beware it . for though it can
contain partial truths , within it the lie is buried deep . and the more one smokes it
the worse they can become . STick to the bible my friends .

 

[Ritajanice]

There's nothing more to discuss. You have been given the truth and you choose to twist it into a lie... as do some others here pushing a false God. God is not duplicitous, which is exactly what Calvinism teaches.

James 1:17-22
[17]Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.
[18]Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.
[19]Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath:
[20]For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.
[21]Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
[22]But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

Born Again of imperishable seed..the Living seed.....see you over on Tulip.

Looking forward to the discussion.

 

[Ritajanice]

Let all who have ears to hear , hear .
those who follow and adhere to calvin can be seen as a man who desired to relieve himself upon the comode
and rather than sitting he stood on the comode . that man was high on the pot . let none smoke
of the peace pipe of calvin , let none put his two lips unto the pipe of TULIP . beware it . for though it can
contain partial truths , within it the lie is buried deep . and the more one smokes it
the worse they can become . STick to the bible my friends .

See you over on the tulip thread,,,I’m done here, xx

My posts seen to be ignored.....so just a friendly reminder to all.xx

 

[FaithWillDo]

Many will have perished in the lake of fire , i sure deserved it .
EXCUSE me while i go praise the glorious LORD . FOR DUE TO HIM and HIS MERCY and GRACE
this lamb WONT NEVER SEE that hellhole . I dont know where on earth you are getting you info from
but it aint the bible and it aint GOD or CHRIST or the SPIRIT .
now PREACH , TEACH and SPEAK the true life savinggospel of JESUS CHRIST , Cause
ITS TIME TO DO SO . you remind all about the dire and absolute dire need to BELIEVE ON HIM .
NEVER let the false religoins beleive they serve the same GOD we do . DONT fall for a lie
and dont buy a false hope and false love . TIME TO PREACH JESUS . IF we , AS DO GOD , desire the death of none
THEN WE as DID GOD need to TESTIFY OF JESUS CHRIST . be not as many who give out false hope
cause it aint gonna save anyone to do so . IT might get a big cumbyia feel good welcome unity party , BUT ITS GONNA Damn
ever last one of them . FOR THOUGH hand join in hand the WICKED WILL NOT GO UNPUNISHED . no matter if man tries to say otherwse .
Budda cant save squat nor can any other false religoin . BUT JESUS CAN . TIME TO PREACH HIM my friend . WHILE
there still be time to do so .

Dear amigo de christo,
In order to understand the spiritual teachings of the New Covenant, a person must have their spiritual blindness healed. That blindness is only healed when they receive the Latter Rain of the Spirit (Mark 8:15-25). Only then can the Marriage Supper of the Lord occur and the newly born child of God receive the nourishment of truth that they need to produce spiritual fruit.

The scripture below teaches about the spiritual blindness of believers who have only received the Early Rain of the Spirit:

Isa 28:9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts. 10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: 11 For with stammering lips and another language (spiritual language) will he speak to this people. 12 But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.

The believers who are converted are the ones who are weaned from the milk. They are the only ones who can understand the "another language" which Christ uses to teach the spiritual truths of the New Covenant. Believers who are not converted will not be able to understand and receive the truth of God even when it is presented to them (their house will remain empty, Mat 12:43-45). For that reason, Satan will easily deceive them and cause them to "fall backward, and be broken, and snared and taken". This is how the apostate church came into existence.

Joe

 

[BlessedPeace]

You've placed your own twisted interpretation on scripture. I have given soooooo many scriptures to back what I've said. I'm not going to be persuaded to believe a lie.

Too late.

 

[BlessedPeace]

beware , let us all take heed . A lie has been presented unto christendom and the world
to merge its religions and peoples to be as one . This lamb WONT BUY THAT LIE .
JESUS has the sheep . MARCH ON SISTER . This lie has come in under the guise it is love and it is of GOD .
But it is only of He who desired and desires to be AS GOD . EL DIABLO HIMSELF
and he has many co workers who work on his coexist bridge building unity lie . Now march onwards in the trenches .
Let none , no not even one who names the name of CHRIST enter into UNITY with
this father of lies who has come to merge mankind and its religoins to merge as one .
The devil wears more than prada sister , as you know , HIMS and his co workers can and DO wear wool .
We must stick to the original GOSPEL of JESUS CHRIST and let us offer up NO OTHER HOPE
for any other hope is but a lie that will drown them all in destruction and perdition of ungodly men
who loved a lie .

Be careful who you and your subordinate paint as ungodly here.

When you insist we choose God,we who know Jesus never said that also know we are not believers in a lie.
Those who paint words into Jesus teachings are.

My sister in Christ RJ is correct. We cannot reach the natural minds. It is not us. It is Holy Spirit God only who can do this.

Otherwise, the natural minded,as we read, speak foolishness as they foolishly try to interpret God's words through their prideful natural carnal lens.

Sisters and brothers in Christ, don't try to do the Holy Spirits job. That post is rightly filled already. ;)

 

[JunChosen]

This is nonsensical.

If man can not chose to repent and receive the free gift of salvation. He could not be saved.

Exactly!! Man by nature is spiritually dead and he has no power or the capacity to choose for the spiritual things of God. A spiritually dead person can't do anything and that is what Jesus said in John 15:5...."I am the vine, ye [are] the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing."

Your idea of Salvation is man's wisdom that supposedly can choose for God, seeing that he is spiritually dead!!

To God Be The Glory

 

[Behold]

Your glaring error is that God never ordains anyone to hell!

God would never do that., as God is a God of Justice and Fair Judgment, and of Love.

God would never "pre-choose" your mother, or your children, for Hell, and choose you for heaven, as you are teaching.

See, just because Calvinism and TULIP deny John 3:16,.... does not mean you have do it, but you can if that is your choice . (Free will).

Its a Fool's theology to accuse God of "random salvation" when the Cross of Christ is given to "ALL who will believe".

Now..what God does is allow people the choice to receive His Son or not. (Free will).

"ALL who call on the name of Jesus, shall be saved".

"all that Believe".,

(Free Will).

 

[amigo de christo]

Be careful who you and your subordinate paint as ungodly here.

When you insist we choose God,we who know Jesus never said that also know we are not believers in a lie.
Those who paint words into Jesus teachings are.

My sister in Christ RJ is correct. We cannot reach the natural minds. It is not us. It is Holy Spirit God only who can do this.

Otherwise, the natural minded,as we read, speak foolishness as they foolishly try to interpret God's words through their prideful natural carnal lens.

Sisters and brothers in Christ, don't try to do the Holy Spirits job. That post is rightly filled already. ;)

This is what i meant by there are things calvin taught that were correct , but also deadly errors too .
Oh , i know its GOD who draws us to Christ .