Be Rapture Ready Or Be Left Behind!! Your Choice!!

[Earburner]

1. Well, we have the falling away ... a great falling away!
Caused mostly by these 2 false doctrines:
(1) eternal security, OSAS
(2) habitual (unrepentant) sinning is okay

2. Because of these satanic doctrines, many BACs are in hell,
and many more will also be going there!

3. Of course, you know that hell is the holding tank for
the appointed time when all there will be cast into the Lake of Fire.

4. Yes, I agree, this really seems to be over-kill.
Why isn't separation from God in hell good enough?
Understanding that some (many?) are tortured in hell.

5. BACs must repent of their sins to be accepted into heaven!
Repent: be sorry for your sins, and stop doing them!

1. All False! Jesus saves us by His Righteousness, not ours.
2. Hell is nothing more than the grave.
3. Holding tank? No one is alive in their graves!
Yes, in the day of Jesus' return, the entire surface of the earth will be a lake of fire, and of course, with all the graves being in the earth, they will be burned up with "fervent heat".
4. The KJV says " punishMENT", not punishING.
5. Through faith maintained, BACs are "not condemned" ...EVER!
However, only BACs can commit the unpardonable sin! For that, they shall be lost.

 

[Taken]

> When the mark of the beast is manifested and enforced, many will then "fall away" from faith.

1) What does "fall away from faith" mean to you?

2) When is the mark of the beast manifested?

3) How LONG will it take for the enforcement of the mark of the beast to be effected?

Because of that, God the Father will then know that people will no longer have faith to seek Him,

and for that, He will send Jesus, in His full glory of eternal flaming fire to rapture all his Saints.

1) What are the saints "doing" ON Earth, while men are taking the mark of the beast?

The age of the grace of God will have ended.

The rapture of his church and the destruction of the unsaved will be simultaneous.

1) So... Christ Church are Jews & Gentiles?

2) How LONG does it take FOR the Jews to ACCEPT Jesus as their Messiah?

3) And...Christ's Church AND those who REJECT God and Christ....
ARE ALL TOGETHER ON EARTH...
EXPERIENCING
the WRATH of the Lamb,
and the WRATH of God?

Through the mark of the beast,

1) Who/what is the Beast?

the "tares" will have been gathered, to be burned. The "wheat" shall be instantly gathered unto the Lord,

THE PROCESS...

Wheat is always Planted First.
The Planting requires a SEED.
The SEED requires a growth period.

A man IN CHRIST "NOW"....
IS ALREADY prepared to BE HARVESTED.

The HARVEST of Christ's Church IS the Rapture.
It is the Lord Claiming what IS HIS, and removing His (SAVED)Church FROM the EARTH...

BEFORE the WRATH of "the LAMB" begins.

Christ's CHURCH IS NOT " subject " TO WRATH!

THEN....WHO IS LEFT ON EARTH??

God (not Christ) believers (ie primarily the Jews. (Also those rejecting God and TAKING the NAME (ie MARK) of the Beast, (in their forehead or hand).

It is a TIME PERIOD...ALL MEN "OF" the WORLD are DECIDING...
To Reject the mark of the Beast...or to TAKE the mark of the Beast.

(You conveniently OMIT, THE TIMEFRAME).
And SKIP over...
Men IN Christ are ALREADY DIVIDED and SEPARATED FROM THE WORLD.

During the TIMEFRAME...(when MEN "OF" the World are "Deciding" to take the mark or not...)

The BEAST has BEEN Manifested...
The world is IN CHAOS...
The BEAST IS "Gaining" followers BY his
....promotion of "PEACE and SAFETY".
....and MANY men WILL happily TAKE his
....Mark, believing "through the beast"...
...."they" will be at "peace and have safety".

(And you conveniently SKIP over...GOD "SENDING" "TO EARTH")
...JEWS TO MINISTER TO JEWS...that THEY shall HEAR of Christ Jesus and BELIEVE ALSO IN HIM.

The JEWS who ACCEPT JESUS....Shall REJECT the mark of the Beast and ....
Their BODIES KILLED...and THEIR SOUL SAVED....and THEIR SAVED SOUL, goes to Heaven .... and praise and worship God...night and day.

Once ALL THEIR SOULS are SAVED....

THEN BEGINS...

GODS WRATH UPON the EARTH...
GODS WRATH UPON the PEOPLE of the EARTH....who HAVE REJECTED....
God and Christ ...AND Taken the MARK of the Beast.

and shall be transformed immediately at His appearing,

What are "THEY" "DOING" While DEATH and DESTRUCTION and FAMINE and WARS are ALL around them?

WHY are "THEY" "subject to such WRATH" ?

Taken

 

[Taken]

2. Hell is nothing more than the grave.

So...what exactly IS IN "the grave", you say is Hell ?

5. Through faith maintained, BACs are "not condemned" ...EVER!

What does BAC mean?

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Taken]

Never the less, a remnant out of each generation have come to Jesus as being their Messiah/Savior, and shall continue to do so until the age of the grace of God ends.

And.....THEY (who HAVE come to Jesus) "ARE" subject TO WRATH?

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Earburner]

And.....THEY (who HAVE come to Jesus) "ARE" subject TO WRATH?

Glory to God,
Taken

Slow down! You don't realize how many interconnected false doctrines you are stringing along with your many questions.
BAC = born again christians.
We shall never suffer God's wrath, of which I clearly have stated, but we, and all the world, will (and have been) suffering through Satan's wrath. Rev. 12:12

 

[Taken]

Slow down! You don't realize how many interconnected false doctrines you are stringing along with your many questions.

Questions DO NOT PROMOTE my doctrine.
Questions ARE ASKING YOU about your doctrine.

We shall never suffer God's wrath, of which I clearly have stated,

Oh...so WHEN does Gods Wrath Take Place, and for HOW LONG, does that LAST?

Again...What are YOU "DOING" while Gods Wrath IS taking place?

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Earburner]

So then, before we can go on, one doctrine needs to be straightened out permanently.
Man "became a living soul" , he never received one! Gen. 2:7- KJV only.
Furthermore, since Adam's fall, and got booted out of Eden, he/we never received any kind of eternal life/existence whatsoever. IOWs, no one has an eternal soul.

Therefore no one is alive in the grave (hell).
Nor is anyone alive in your imagined concept of hell.
No one, in any state after physical death, can remain alive (conscious) UNLESS Christ (His Holy Spirit) has been deposited within them. Rom. 8:9.
Shall you say that Christ lives in the graves?

The thief on the cross is that example. He completed nothing for himself, except to repent and believe, and Christ promised him Eternal Life.
We are saved by faith in His Righteousness, NOT OURS!
So then, after death, where did the "thief" go?
Ans. His physical body went to the grave (hell), but the Holy Spirit took his saved (quickened/regenerated) "inner man" to be with Jesus in paradise, and he has remained asleep in Jesus, until Jesus returns.
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All who are BACs, and die the first death in the Lord, were made to be "partakers of His divine nature", which is to say His Holy Spirit.
Since Jesus IS THE First Resurrection, we all who have received His HS are now blessed, having part in the First Resurrection, who is Christ. We are sealed unto the day of redemption.
For the thief to be promised eternal life (paradise), he also was sealed by the Holy Spirit, for "whosoever hath not the Spirit of God/Christ, he is none of His" . Rom. 8:9.

 

[Taken]

So then, before we can go on, one doctrine needs to be straightened out permanently.
Man "became a living soul" , he never received one! Gen. 2:7- KJV only.

What was man, BEFORE "he became a living soul" ?

 

[Earburner]

Questions DO NOT PROMOTE my doctrine.
Questions ARE ASKING YOU about your doctrine.



Oh...so WHEN does Gods Wrath Take Place, and for HOW LONG, does that LAST?

Again...What are YOU "DOING" while Gods Wrath IS taking place?

Glory to God,
Taken

In the day of Jesus' physical return from Heaven, the Saints are immediately transformed/resurrected up into glory with Christ and simultaneously (AT THE SAME TIME) the earth and the works therein shall be burned up (the lake of fire is as large as the earth). No one who remains as mere flesh shall remain alive. Jesus' glorious presence to them then, is the 2nd death.
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FYI, God's age of Grace is now, and is symbolically described as 1000 years. Time is not literal for that event of his Grace, because Jesus didn't know when he would return, only the Father. Many have/are already participated in His FIRST Resurrection, who is Jesus!! Only He is the FIRSTborn from the dead!!
Though BACs are partakers, we are in waiting until He returns physically.

 

[Earburner]

What was man, BEFORE "he became a living soul" ?

Nothing, except to be an image in God's mind, as would an Architect who decides to create a house.
As the house is created by the imagination of an Architect, so also did God create us in what He imagined.
It's not rocket science, with a religious spin on it!

 

[Taken]

In the day of Jesus' physical return from Heaven,

The Rapture is not during a time of "Jesus'" physical return from HEAVEN.....TO EARTH.

The Rapture is about "Christ" claiming HIS Church. THEY Rise UP TO HIM, and for the FIRST TIME "SEE" HIM, AS HE IS.

It is "Jesus" the Son of man, who Left Earth and shall return to Earth..and BE SEEN by MEN "LEFT ON EARTH"...
The WICKED ARE "NOT" able TO SEE "Christ the Lord.....AS He IS...(NOT" in His GLORY....but "WITH" His POWER.)

the Saints are immediately transformed/resurrected up into glory with Christ and simultaneously (AT THE SAME TIME) the earth and the works therein shall be burned up (the lake of fire is as large as the earth). No one who remains as mere flesh shall remain alive. Jesus' glorious presence to them then, is the 2nd death.

Again you SKIP a time frame.

Though BACs are partakers, we are in waiting until He returns physically.

So, then you will BE ON EARTH...
During the Lambs Wrath
And
Gods Wrath...
Correct?

 

[Taken]

Nothing, except to be an image in God's mind....

... so also did God create us....

I did not ask what God imagined.

To answer the question....Get to the part....of what God created...

What was man....BEFORE he BECAME a living soul.

Taken

 

[Earburner]

The Rapture is not during a time of "Jesus'" physical return from HEAVEN.....TO EARTH.
> Oh, I see, to you then it really will be "a secret rapture" , of which you previously denied!
Sorry,...ALL, both the saved and the unsaved will SEE Him. We shall be transformed immediately and the unsaved shall be burnt to a crisp immediately.
BTW, how many times do you have Jesus returning? Two or three?? Lol

The Rapture is not during a time of "Jesus'" physical return from HEAVEN.....TO EARTH.
The Rapture is about "Christ" claiming HIS Church. THEY Rise UP TO HIM, and for the FIRST TIME "SEE" HIM, AS HE IS.
> Yes I agree, and the unsaved will be running for the rocks and the caves!

It is "Jesus" the Son of man, who Left Earth and shall return to Earth..and BE SEEN by MEN "LEFT ON EARTH"...
The WICKED ARE "NOT" able TO SEE "Christ the Lord.....AS He IS...(NOT" in His GLORY....but "WITH" His POWER.)
> Correct! While running for their lives, they will be on fire, as with everything else on the planet. An all consuming, Eternal flaming fire, who can survive it, but those who are immediately transformed into Christ's likeness!

Again you SKIP a time frame.
> t's not about "until" , but rather "except" .
I informed you that you have many, many false concepts/doctrines floating around in your head, and now you are trying to make them work and can't.



So, then you will BE ON EARTH...
During the Lambs Wrath
And
Gods Wrath...
Correct?
> incorrect!! You refuse to hear what I have said about the Lord's return being one of salvation and destruction, simultaneously IN ONE DAY!!


The Rapture is about "Christ" claiming HIS Church. THEY Rise UP TO HIM, and for the FIRST TIME "SEE" HIM, AS HE IS.

It is "Jesus" the Son of man, who Left Earth and shall return to Earth..and BE SEEN by MEN "LEFT ON EARTH"...
The WICKED ARE "NOT" able TO SEE "Christ the Lord.....AS He IS...(NOT" in His GLORY....but "WITH" His POWER.)
> I explained that already. You are refusing to hear it.


Again you SKIP a time frame.
Again- it's not about "until" (time), but rather "except" (events).


So, then you will BE ON EARTH...
During the Lambs Wrath
And
Gods Wrath...
Correct?

Absolutely Not!! However the unsaved will be, and shall be burnt to a crisp with fervent heat with the earth also,...with the graves (hell), thus being the lake of fire, on the whole surface of the earth.

 

[Earburner]

I did not ask what God imagined.

To answer the question....Get to the part....of what God created...

What was man....BEFORE he BECAME a living soul.

Taken

I did not ask what God imagined.

To answer the question....Get to the part....of what God created...

What was man....BEFORE he BECAME a living soul.

Taken

A pile of dirt, without Oxygen!

 

[Taken]

Furthermore, since Adam's fall, and got booted out of Eden, he/we never RECEIVED any kind of eternal life/existence whatsoever.

Disagree with you.

IOWs, no one has an eternal soul..

Disagree with you.

Therefore no one is alive in the grave (hell).

Disagree with you.

Nor is anyone alive in your imagined concept of hell.

Disagree with you.

No one, in any state after physical death, can remain alive (conscious) UNLESS Christ (His Holy Spirit) has been deposited within them. Rom. 8:9.

Just contradicted yourself...

Shall you say that Christ lives in the graves?

I don't say what you say.

So then, after death, where did the "thief" go?
Ans. His physical body went to the grave (hell),

So...Men BURY DEAD BODIES IN HELL?

 

[Taken]

Can not respond to YOUR comments...
All that shows up is what you see ... Your name, no comments.

But to you ... get it straight...

"Secret Rapture"...

..IS YOUR WORDS..not mine.

I was VERY CLEAR....THE "DAY" of the Rapture of Christ's Church is SECRET.

Before you accuse me of LYING.....you should spend a bit of time learning the difference between.......A DAY...and the ACT of being caught UP.

If you want responses to YOUR posts...
KEEP MY WORDS SEPARATE FROM YOUR own responses BY bracketing MY comments in "QUOTES".

 

[Taken]

A pile of dirt, without Oxygen!

No, MAN was NOT ...

A pile of dirt, without Oxygen!

Earth...IS DRY LAND.

The Answer is MAN "WAS" a "FORM" God Created "FROM" the DUST "OF" the Earth...

The "FORM" God Created is called....A BODY.

So the answer to WHAT "WAS" .....MAN....
BEFORE ... a MAN Became A "Living Soul"...

IS... "A FORMED BODY".

And that "FORMED BODY"....
Was NEITHER...LIVING....or DEAD.

So...WHAT WAS "INSIDE" and "OUTSIDE" of "that BODY" ..God Formed from the Dust of the Earth?

 

[Earburner]

I already know what and how you believe, so now you should try to explain yourself. Pick a doctrine and go for it! But please stay on topic with it, and please keep your threads simple and short. Please no book wr

>> Earburner wrote:
Furthermore, since Adam's fall, and got booted out of Eden, he/we never RECEIVED any kind of eternal life/existence whatsoever.
>Taken replied:
Disagree with you.
Prove it

>> IOWs, no one has an eternal soul..
>Disagree with you.
Prove it
>>Therefore no one is alive in the grave (hell).
> Disagree with you.
Prove it
>>Nor is anyone alive in your imagined concept of hell.
>Disagree with you.
Prove it
>> No one, in any state after physical death, can remain alive (conscious) UNLESS Christ (His Holy Spirit) has been deposited within them. Rom. 8:9.
> Just contradicted yourself...
Prove it

>>Shall you say that Christ lives in the graves?
> I don't say what you say.
Prove it

>> So then, after death, where did the "thief" go?
Ans. His physical body went to the grave (hell),
> So...Men BURY DEAD BODIES IN HELL?
Prove it

Can not respond to YOUR comments...
All that shows up is what you see ... Your name, no comments.

But to you ... get it straight...



..IS YOUR WORDS..not mine.

I was VERY CLEAR....THE "DAY" of the Rapture of Christ's Church is SECRET.

Before you accuse me of LYING.....you should spend a bit of time learning the difference between.......A DAY...and the ACT of being caught UP.

If you want responses to YOUR posts...
KEEP MY WORDS SEPARATE FROM YOUR own responses BY bracketing MY comments in "QUOTES".

Being new here, I am still trying to get the format down. Hope to do better. Thanks for your help.
BTW, why are there so many spaces between your sentences? It seems like I am always scrolling to read what you write,

 

[Earburner]

No, MAN was NOT ...



Earth...IS DRY LAND.

The Answer is MAN "WAS" a "FORM" God Created "FROM" the DUST "OF" the Earth...

The "FORM" God Created is called....A BODY.

So the answer to WHAT "WAS" .....MAN....
BEFORE ... a MAN Became A "Living Soul"...

IS... "A FORMED BODY".

And that "FORMED BODY"....
Was NEITHER...LIVING....or DEAD.

So...WHAT WAS "INSIDE" and "OUTSIDE" of "that BODY" ..God Formed from the Dust of the Earth?

OK, so I briefed it a bit...dirt, earth, dust whatever.
What's inside? God breathed into his nostrils Oxygen. Unfortunately, Moses did not know what that is, so he called it "the breath of life" , as he did also with all air breathing animal life in Genesis.

 

[Taken]

I already know what and how you believe, so now you should try to explain yourself. Pick a doctrine and go for it! But please stay on topic with it, and please keep your threads simple and short. Please no book wr

>> Earburner wrote:
Furthermore, since Adam's fall, and got booted out of Eden, he/we never RECEIVED any kind of eternal life/existence whatsoever.
>Taken replied:
Disagree with you.
Prove it

>> IOWs, no one has an eternal soul..
>Disagree with you.
Prove it
>>Therefore no one is alive in the grave (hell).
> Disagree with you.
Prove it
>>Nor is anyone alive in your imagined concept of hell.
>Disagree with you.
Prove it
>> No one, in any state after physical death, can remain alive (conscious) UNLESS Christ (His Holy Spirit) has been deposited within them. Rom. 8:9.
> Just contradicted yourself...
Prove it

>>Shall you say that Christ lives in the graves?
> I don't say what you say.
Prove it

>> So then, after death, where did the "thief" go?
Ans. His physical body went to the grave (hell),
> So...Men BURY DEAD BODIES IN HELL?
Prove it

Being new here, I am still trying to get the format down. Hope to do better. Thanks for your help.
BTW, why are there so many spaces between your sentences? It seems like I am always scrolling to read what you write,

Have some outside work to do. Get back with you later.

Spaces in my posts....Because people have a hard time staying on point.

Glory to God,
Taken