Beware Of The Crowd--The Many!

[Jay Ross]

If you have what you think is a better translation, let's hear it.

But no, what you are saying is not biblical, nor do the words translate as you say. And you too, how is it that you do not know that all creation groans, and this earth of the same elements as yourself, will also die that it too should be born again?

God be with ye as well!

Oh ScottA, how sad it is that you do not understand the truth that I have presented in my post above that you need to now try to minimise what I posted in a vain attempt on your part to look more spiritual in your "knowledge" of the meaning of words in scripture. You have not realised that you care too much about how you look or think of yourself than in the truth of the scriptures.

As requested, this is how I would paraphrase Revelation 21:1-5: -


And this is the Interlinear for Revelation 21:1-2: -

And Strong's definition for G:2537: -

and a cut down snip of Strongs definition of G:0565: -


I am sure with the above information that your spirit will agree.

Shalom

 

[CrowCross]

Not biblical.

If you say so.

 

[ScottA]

Oh ScottA, how sad it is that you do not understand the truth that I have presented in my post above that you need to now try to minimise what I posted in a vain attempt on your part to look more spiritual in your "knowledge" of the meaning of words in scripture. You have not realised that you care too much about how you look or think of yourself than in the truth of the scriptures.

As requested, this is how I would paraphrase Revelation 21:1-5: -

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And this is the Interlinear for Revelation 21:1-2: -
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And Strong's definition for G:2537: -
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and a cut down snip of Strongs definition of G:0565: -
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I am sure with the above information that your spirit will agree.

Shalom

Thank you--you reveal yourself.

So YOU have YOUR OWN translation (and you accuse me of trying to look more knowledgeable!). And YOU did it by LITERARY translation--oh that is rich!

Well, for you or ANYONE ELSE who wants to see what YOU did, the key words are "pass away" and "new" ("heavens and earth", Revelation 21), and can easily be seen in detail as compared [specifically] with other uses of the same original words in scripture, here: "pass away" and "new".

But the key word in your accusation against me, is "spiritual"--making your accusation not only against me, but against the means by which I told you what is true--which is by God...by that very means which Jesus said He would build His church. So be it.

Thanks again!

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Yet, even among that group of those who "trust in th death and physical resurrection of Jesus", there are the unfaithful and unwise servants, to whom Jesus said, He "will cut him in two and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites."

Do you understand what He means by "cut him in two?"

Understand how you wish it to mean? NO! Sorry, but once one has placed their trust in teh death and resurrection of Jesus as the full payment for their sin, they are sved forever. They are made new creatures in Christ, their life is hidden in Christ and they have eternal life and not some probationary eternal life. That is gods Word.