He is bringing the souls/spirits of the Saints from Heaven.
Yes.
There are no bodily resurrected Saints in Heaven/Revelation.
There are Heaven-“S”
High Heaven…Where no light escapes, I would liken to Gods Estate.
Mid Heaven…Estate of Holy Angels.
…we get a pretty good view of in the night sky…/ stars/ planets.
Lower Heaven…sky, clouds.
…we can experience seeing, climbing mountain tops, flying in airplanes.
The Resurrection only takes place at His Coming.
Resurrections have taken place for centuries.
Every time a mortal body ceases living its living soul departs its body.
If the living soul returns to its body, before the blood (life OF the body rots, or is drained from the body), the body will Resume living its mortal life.
Scripture gives several examples.
Men even today give testimony of being “clinically” pronounced dead (no heart beat, indicative of blood not flowing)…and testify of what their departed soul experienced.
Brothers, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you will not grieve like the rest, who are without hope. For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, we also believe that God will bring with Jesusthose who have fallen asleep/died in Him.
Read clearly…
That is speaking of those WHO believe:
Jesus died and was risen back up to Life
AND…
They are called:
IN Jesus
AND…
God will raise them UP…in the LAST days.
AND…
If you study further…
There is a Caveat…IF they believed that on the Day of their bodily death, They Shall be saved.
AND…
That Raising UP is their dead body being raised up from their earthly Grave…in a changed body, receiving Back their saved soul, their quickened spirit, to a changed New Earth…
AND …
That shall occur AFTER the millennial reign.
By the word of the Lord, we declare to you that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who have fallen asleep.
For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God,
and the dead in Christ will be the first to rise.
After that, we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord.
This pertains to the DEAD and ALIVE …
IN Christ…per the Order and Way, of THEY, while alive in their flesh BODY confessed to The Lord God; They believe Jesus IS the Christ the Son of the Living God…
They ARE (soul) saved at that moment. And Quickened (spirit born again) at that moment and their Body already account Dead For their Love of God. Baptism of the Holy Spirit, makes that man, Accounted WHOLE, once and forever….BEFORE bodily Death (rather having been spiritually crucified with Christ) AND it is the Lord who raises up that man, Above the Face of the Earth, Before the Lambs Wrath commences upon the Earth.
You are identifying TWO separate teachings then meshing those TWO separate teachings of
Who, What, When, Where, Why
as ONE same teaching.
Belief OF JESUS is one thing.
Belief without Confession is one thing.
Being IN Jesus is one thing.
Hope to Remain IN Jesus is one thing.
Shall be Saved is one thing.
Raised BY God is one thing.
Holy Spirit Baptism on resurrection day of Dead Body is one thing.
Raised to Where is one thing.
Raised When, Why is one thing.
Can fall away is one thing, Before mortal death is one thing.
Can be divided or separated FROM the Lord God.
MAYBE / MAYBE Not Not Shall Be Saved…hangs On individual's choices.
Belief OF CHRIST Jesus is another thing.
Confessed Belief is another thing.
Being IN CHRIST Jesus is another thing.
Assurance TO Remain IN CHRIST Jesus is another thing.
IS Saved is another thing.
Holy Spirit Baptism BEFORE Bodily Death IS another thing.
Raised BY the Lord is another thing.
Raised to Where is another thing.
Can NEVER be divided or separated From the Lord God.
Returns to Earth
With the Individual’s Lord, God, Spirit, whom the individuals Have Been Transformed LIKE their Lord God, (body, soul, spirit) (called SAINTS) and can SEE their Lord God AS HE IS (body, soul, spirit)…who Returns AS the Son of Man, which Mortals ON Earth CAN SEE the Body of Jesus, as God prepared, in the LIKENESS AS a man…For Mortals TO SEE.
When the Son of Man returns…Mortal men ON Earth WILL NOT SEE, Jesus, as He IS…(Spirit/Christ)
Mortal men ON Earth WILL NOT SEE, Transformed Spirit Baptized men, AS THEY ARE (body, soul, spirit, transformed new creatures)…When They IN CHRIST (Saints), return to Earth WITH the Son of Man, IN HIS Glory (body, soul, spirit)…
In Jesus…In Christ Jesus are two Different things.
In the End of Days…Every Individual Mortal man…is addressed According to Exactaly what they Believe….According TO Gods Order and Way.
And By An individual LISTENING to the Words spoken by other men and the Doings/acts of other men…an other mans Path (and Remaing on their path)….their Final outcome /with or without/ the Lord God Almighty Becomes Apparent….less they make other choices, before their Mortal Death.
Once a mortal man is IN Jesus…he IS ON a path Favorable to the Lord God….but, but, but CAN fall Away (and many scriptures WARN of such possibility AND how and why that IS a possibility.
Once a mortal man is IN Christ Jesus…he is ON a path Secure IN The Lord God and Gods Spirit (Supreme Power IN that man ) assures that man can NEVER fall away from the Lord God Almighty.
Can fall Away….Can never Fall Away….Huge Difference.
Before the End of Days….Those who can Never fall Away are Separated From the Face of the Earth….risen UP from the face of the Earth…to the Clouds…unseen by mortal men ON Earth.
First those bodily dead in their grave…immediately there after those bodily alive in their flesh.
During 14 express phases of destructions (7 Seals 7 Trumps) and 3 Woes ON Earth, Mortal men ON Earth will be experiencing and many Bodily dying during Each phase, that Shall Begin Gods INTENT to END ‘Mortality’….
Some will Bodily Die, having chosen then to Be With God…Many Will Bodily Die, having chosen to be Without God…
Those choosing With….God shall raise them bodily after the millennial Reign of CHRIST JESUS.
Context, applicability, order and way According to God.
God Bless,
Taken