In this case Jay, I was referring to the Watchtower magazine. I gave the reason why I believe the correctness of 1914.
You believe that God exists don't you Jay? Do you believe that only one group of people belong to God? If so, do you believe that God identifies them in His word the Bible?
Robert, I have already pointed out in a previous post that the assumption that 1914 is the year that God established His everlasting Kingdom on the Earth is flawed in that the fourth and fifth segment of the Daniel 2 statue prophecy had not come into view in that year and that the Seventh Bowl Judgement prophecy also told us the end of the 2,000 years plus period of the Land of Babylon lying Devastated and Desolated would end when the Land of Babylon would be remembered once more during the revelation of this Seventh Bowl Judgement.
However the translation your denomination uses is very different to, lets say, the New King James Bible. Below are the two translations: -
Revelation 16:17-21: - 17 Then the seventh angel poured out his bowl into the air. And a mighty shout came from the throne in the Temple, saying, "It is finished!" 18 Then the thunder crashed and rolled, and lightning flashed. And a great earthquake struck—the worst since people were placed on the earth. 19 The great city of Babylon split into three sections, and the cities of many nations fell into heaps of rubble. So God remembered all of Babylon's sins, and he made her drink the cup that was filled with the wine of his fierce wrath. 20 And every island disappeared, and all the mountains were leveled. 21 There was a terrible hailstorm, and hailstones weighing seventy-five pounds fell from the sky onto the people below. They cursed God because of the terrible plague of the hailstorm.
Holy Bible, New Living Translation ®, copyright © 1996, 2004 by Tyndale Charitable Trust. Used by permission of Tyndale House Publishers. All rights reserved.
Revelation 16:17-21: - 17 Then the seventh angel poured out his bowl into the air, and a loud voice came out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, "It is done!" 18 And there were noises and thunderings and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such a mighty and great earthquake as had not occurred since men were on the earth. 19 Now the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell. And great Babylon was remembered before God, to give her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of His wrath. 20 Then every island fled away, and the mountains were not found. 21 And great hail from heaven fell upon men, each hailstone about the weight of a talent. Men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail, since that plague was exceedingly great.
NKJV
We are, in reality arguing out of very different play books, and so can only come to very different conclusions. A more recent translation is this translation: -
Revelation 16:17-21: - 17 Finally the seventh angel poured out his bowl into the air and a loud voice came out of the temple from the throne, saying: "
It is done!"
18 Then there were flashes of lightning, roaring, and crashes of thunder, and there was a tremendous earthquake - an earthquake unequaled since humanity has been on the earth, so tremendous was that earthquake.
19 The great city was split into three parts and the cities of the nations collapsed. So Babylon the great was remembered before God, and was given the cup filled with the wine made of God's furious wrath.
20 Every island fled away and no mountains could be found.
21 And gigantic hailstones, weighing about a hundred pounds each, fell from heaven on people, but they blasphemed God because of the plague of hail, since it was so horrendous.
(from The NET Bible®, Copyright © 1996-2006 by Biblical Studies Press, L.L.C., Dallas, Texas, www.bible.org. All rights reserved. Used by permission.)
The
NET Bible® translation is fairly in synch with the
NKJB but it too is very different to the
NLT which seems to me to be a translation that reflects the understanding of your denomination's contextual understanding more than that of God words/context given to John.
As such Robert, I do not believe that you are able to present a reasoned Biblical understanding on the topic of this thread.
Goodbye Robert.
PS: - as to your false argument and deflection from the topic making it a personal attack on my personhood, I do not believe that there is one special people group as you do that belong specifically to God as God desires all people from every People Group to be drawn to be within His Loving Embrace.