Biden, 2024 State of the Union address tonight on NBC @ 9p.m est. Linked Live

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BlessedPeace

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Biden just stateed,if we send him to Congress again he'll restore Roe v.Wade again.

(Look for abortion to be codified before November.)

Alzheimer's patients timeline can reach back to years prior,as self placement there. Biden,reading from a Teleprompter no less, thinks he's still a Senator.
 

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Biden just stateed,if we send him to Congress again he'll restore Roe v.Wade again.

(Look for abortion to be codified before November.)

Alzheimer's patients timeline can reach back to years prior,as self placement there. Biden,reading from a Teleprompter no less, thinks he's still a Senator.

I think you heard him wrong. This is what I heard and what the transcript says:

"If Americans send me a Congress that supports the right to choose, I promise you, I will restore Roe v. Wade as the law of the land again!"

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/h...oe-bidens-state-of-the-union-address-4af8a940
 

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And we all know that Roe v Wade, which was a Constitutional decision declaring a Constitutional right to abortion, cannot be restored by any legislation. That would take a Constitutional amendment, not a bill from Congress. What Biden meant -- and how he was understood by most, I suspect -- is that he would sign legislation declaring a federal (nationwide) right to abortion up to X weeks of pregnancy.
 

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And we all know that Roe v Wade, which was a Constitutional decision declaring a Constitutional right to abortion, cannot be restored by any legislation. That would take a Constitutional amendment, not a bill from Congress. What Biden meant -- and how he was understood by most, I suspect -- is that he would sign legislation declaring a federal (nationwide) right to abortion up to X weeks of pregnancy.

Like most Democrats pretending to be Christian.....They want to kill up to the first breath. The Democrats want to change this decision? They have to do it 50 times ......In 50 states. They'll never never get 3/4. Go to work crats.....

The women dressed in white ......don't reflect virginity or unity at all. They should be dressed in red .......for the blood shed by the female and by the aborted child.

Biden continues his lies. He didn't cap insulin costs. That was signed by Trump. He didn't shed over one trillion dollars indebt. That was all COVID budget and had an automatic cap as well.

Yelling and screaming while hopped up on the stash Hunter left behind ......does not represent a fool that is suddenly woke. Biden will be on the chopper today, to recover all weekend in Delaware.
 

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Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization held that a woman has no federal Constitutional right to an abortion at any stage of pregnancy, thus assigning abortion law to the legislative process. Dobbs sidestepped the question of whether an unborn fetus has a Constitutional right to life at any stage of pregnancy. As Justice Alito put it, “Our opinion is not based on any view about if and when prenatal life is entitled to any of the rights enjoyed after birth.” This leaves intact Roe v. Wade’s admonishment that “the word ‘person,’ as used in the Fourteenth Amendment, does not include the unborn.”

Do you guys want to get into the ramifications of this from a legal perspective, or am I on the wrong forum for that?
 

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Well by their fruits you know them.

In many respects it is us people that are to blame, none took a stand but went along with the tide and in slow increments Satan has taken over.

There is no greater tool in the arsenal of evil than the rule of law. Now satan is in a position to legalize its objectives.
 

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It's up to congress to decide when a person is. (We The People)
As it is up to congress to decide what an assault weapon is.(We The People)
The Judiciary is not the legislative branch, they can not make laws.
They interpret the laws congress makes and determines if they are constitutional.
The Executive Branch upholds the laws or reinforces the laws which congress legislates.

The country is divided on when a person is.
So the Judiciary can not force an opinion one way or the other.
That's why Roe v. Wade went back to the states.
No legislative power from the bench.

It's up to the people to decide and elect officials who will legislate.

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It's up to congress to decide when a person is.
Except to the extent that "person" appears in the Constitution. The courts have the job of telling us what "person" means in that context. No Congressional statute can impinge on that exclusively judicial power.
 

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Except to the extent that "person" appears in the Constitution. The courts have the job of telling us what "person" means in that context. No Congressional statute can impinge on that exclusively judicial power.

Person

A person is a being who has certain capacities or attributes such as reason, morality, consciousness or self-consciousness, and being a part of a culturally established form of social relations such as kinship, ownership of property, or legal responsibility. The defining features of personhood and, consequently, what makes a person count as a person, differ widely among cultures and contexts. Wikipedia

Self consiousness.. when is a person self aware?
I can't answer that question.
Under the constitution is the right to life.
So then comes the question, when does life begin?
Is the egg of a woman a living thing? Is the sperm of a man a living thing?
Do these two things create a new living thing?

A sperm is nothing more than a cell which very predefined function. It's not able to live a life of it's own. Sperm are unquestionably alive, according to all or most sensible definitions of life (They move around, they have goals, they eat things, they die) . They are not, however, a human or animal life.

Women are born with all the eggs they will ever have; their number begins to decline at birth. A typical fetus has about 20 million eggs, says Dr. Seifer. A newborn has about 2 million, and 11,000 die every month prior to puberty.

So if the sperm and the egg can die, that must mean they had life in them.
And when the two become one, then there is a newly created being.


That's how I see it, but the world has many of it's own interpretations.

Under the Constitution is the right to Life, not the right to kill.

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It's up to congress to decide when a person is. (We The People)
As it is up to congress to decide what an assault weapon is.(We The People)
The Judiciary is not the legislative branch, they can not make laws.
They interpret the laws congress makes and determines if they are constitutional.
The Executive Branch upholds the laws or reinforces the laws which congress legislates.

The country is divided on when a person is.
So the Judiciary can not force an opinion one way or the other.
That's why Roe v. Wade went back to the states.
No legislative power from the bench.

It's up to the people to decide and elect officials who will legislate.

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From 2021


Biden didn't legally win our White House in 2020. I think that should forewarn us that anything can happen when evil wants it to.

 

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Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization held that a woman has no federal Constitutional right to an abortion at any stage of pregnancy, thus assigning abortion law to the legislative process. Dobbs sidestepped the question of whether an unborn fetus has a Constitutional right to life at any stage of pregnancy. As Justice Alito put it, “Our opinion is not based on any view about if and when prenatal life is entitled to any of the rights enjoyed after birth.” This leaves intact Roe v. Wade’s admonishment that “the word ‘person,’ as used in the Fourteenth Amendment, does not include the unborn.”

Do you guys want to get into the ramifications of this from a legal perspective, or am I on the wrong forum for that?

"held that a woman has no federal Constitutional right to an abortion at any stage of pregnancy, thus assigning abortion law to the legislative process."
After the first breath... Fetal breathing starts around week 10 of pregnancy

You don't keep up with the trash ......They want to pull that baby out from the womb and kill it on commend.
In other words ......legally commit murder.
 

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You don't keep up with the trash ......They want to pull that baby out from the womb and kill it on commend.
In other words ......legally commit murder.
Yes, even after the first breath. The pro choice crowd doesn't care that the baby is breathing for some reason.
 

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2024 State of the Union. A father of a Marine shouted at Lying Biden to remember Afghanistan and his murdered son.
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And reminded us of the truth of that failed sorry withdrawal and further act of Biden's ,BHO's shadow president's, Treason.

"Abbey Gate!"

Then,he was arrested.

 
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2024 State of the Union. A father of a Marine shouted at Lying Biden to remember Afghanistan and his murdered son.
GIIHl-dWQAA4LZ7




And reminded us of the truth of that failed sorry withdrawal and further act of Biden's ,BHO's shadow president's, Treason.

"Abbey Gate!"

Then,he was arrested.

But he loves someone who hates our military