BLM supports looting

[kcnalp]

The assertion that Trump is "anointed" by God, a christ in other words, is right wing propaganda.

Again, if it's good situation ethics to win at all costs, politically supporting an anti-christ such as Trump, why are the Alt Right so hard about mothers aborting their babies because of their family situation? If the Alt Right rejects the abortionists situation ethics, why shouldn't others, conservatives and liberal both, also reject the Alt Right's situation ethics in support of an anti-christ, Donald Trump?

Isn't it the case that situation ethics have made the Trump supporters tacit supporters of the ethics of abortionists?

How can you convince me that abortion is wrong when you're supporting an anti-christ?

Your crocodile tears about baby butchers isn't convincing.

It's clear that you're ok with MILLIONS of unborn babies being murdered. And you call others "anti-christ"?

 

[rjs330]

I don't think I misread you. I think you accidentally let some unpleasant truth show, and now you're trying to put spin on it.

You said you hoped BLM continued to show support for looters. How could they continue to show support for looters if the looting stopped?

You start off with "I actually hope" and end with "Then it will get worse." You hope things will get worse. I think you're a white racist who believes if BLM continues to support black people looting, it will make white people "wake up" and then Trump will win and we will have a race war. That's how your words make you look.

I suggest you stop getting all your news from extremist right wing sources. I can see what sites you gave.

Well it's obvious we can't have a conversation. So I guess that's it. Perhaps this is your go to tactic. Maybe you get people to shut up with this cause they are afraid of confronting you. I'm not. You misrepresented what I said, then call me a racist. Why dont you throw in, bigot, sexist, homophobe and anything else you can think of while your at it. Oh and accuse me of white fragility too. That always works well. And you can go ahead and toss in things like I want to establish a theocracy and hang black people and wish slavery still existed. Yeah do that. Any other nasty lies you can tell?

 

[Giuliano]

Well it's obvious we can't have a conversation. So I guess that's it. Perhaps this is your go to tactic. Maybe you get people to shut up with this cause they are afraid of confronting you. I'm not. You misrepresented what I said, then call me a racist. Why dont you throw in, bigot, sexist, homophobe and anything else you can think of while your at it. Oh and accuse me of white fragility too. That always works well. And you can go ahead and toss in things like I want to establish a theocracy and hang black people and wish slavery still existed. Yeah do that. Any other nasty lies you can tell?

I can only go by what you wrote.

 

[bukka]

It's clear that you're ok with MILLIONS of unborn babies being murdered. And you call others "anti-christ"?

If you're okay with situation ethics in your support for Trump, the anti-christ, your ethics, that is to say your situation ethics, logically supports abortion as well. Why do you support an ethics that supports abortion?

I'm still skeptical of your shedding crocodile tears for the millions of unborn.

 

[2 Chr. 34:19]

I have a dream that one day every valley shall be exalted, every hill and mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be made plain, and the crooked places will be made straight, and the glory of The Lord shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together.

This is our hope. This is the faith that I go back to the South with. With this faith, we will be able to hew out of the mountain of despair a stone of hope. With this faith we will be able to transform the jangling discords of our nation into a beautiful symphony of brotherhood. With this faith we will be able to work together, to pray together, to struggle together, to go to jail together, to stand up for freedom together, knowing that we will be free one day.

This will be the day when all of G_d’s children will be able to sing with new meaning: My country, 'tis of thee, sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing. Land where my fathers died, land of the pilgrims' pride, from every mountainside, let freedom ring.

And if America is to be a great nation, this must become true. And so let freedom ring from the prodigious hilltops of New Hampshire. Let freedom ring from the mighty mountains of New York. Let freedom ring from the heightening Alleghenies of Pennsylvania. Let freedom ring from the snowcapped Rockies of Colorado. Let freedom ring from the curvaceous slopes of California. But not only that, let freedom ring from Stone Mountain of Georgia. Let freedom ring from Lookout Mountain of Tennessee. Let freedom ring from every hill and molehill of Mississippi. From every mountainside, let freedom ring.

And when this happens, and when we allow freedom ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of G_d's children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual: Free at last. Free at last. Thank G_D almighty, we are free at last.

Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. delivering his iconic speech on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial on August 28th, 1963.

 

[rjs330]

I can only go by what you wrote.

I didn't write what you claim. You are going by your own made up ideas.

 

[rjs330]

The thread still seems to contain the whining of Alt Right people angry about blacks and other people exercising their right of assembly to protest grievances such as police murder and voter suppression. Problem is that most people see that the criminal activity is not being done by BLM but by others. Authoritarian regimes the world over have used political street thugs to cause the suppression of peaceful protests.

Listen everybody! Those who would attack your freedom of assembly shall be the same people who'll be coming to attack your other civil liberties. Think about it.

Please prove your assurtion. You are claiming that we are against assembly to protest. Unless you have evidence of that, your claim is false.

That you would twist those against rioting and looting into p"angry about blacks and other people exercising their right of assembly to protest grievances such as police murder and voter suppression."
Speaks volumes. Prove your assurtion.

 

[Giuliano]

I didn't write what you claim. You are going by your own made up ideas.

I am going by how I read your words. I quoted it once. I don't see the need to keep quoting it.

 

[rjs330]

I think the loudest voices complaining about black protesters are from people who don't mind things like police murder and voter suppression as long as it's black people being victims. Right wing media stars start it and frighten their listeners who then chime in and spread the fear and anger.

Some right wing leaders even like the idea of making blacks victims; and they want to intimidate blacks into being quiet. So when blacks decide to protest, the white supremacists see it as threatening them, their lifestyle, and what they think of as their government. These radical leaders enjoy it if some blacks loot because then they can point fingers and say, "We told you how bad these black protesters are. See?"

Wow, more twisting of words! Man, you are really good at that. You have mastered the leftist tactics of twisting people's words to make them say what you want them to say.

"people who don't mind things like police murder and voter suppression as long as it's black people being victims."

Please prove your claim. Where is your evidence of that?

You leftists are the king's of making people victims. That's what this whole mess going on is about. The LEFT is the one claiming that blacks are victims and have been claiming that for years. And now you want to try and put that on the right? Who is the one that said "If you don't vote Democratic your not black"?

Racism is not dead. But it is on life support,” Thomas Sowell once said. It is “kept alive mainly by the people who use it for an excuse or to keep minority communities fearful or resentful enough to turn out as a voting bloc on election day.”

It's the Democrats that are always claiming people are victims.

Now please prove that we are against peaceful protests.

 

[Giuliano]

Wow, more twisting of words! Man, you are really good at that. You have mastered the leftist tactics of twisting people's words to make them say what you want them to say.

"people who don't mind things like police murder and voter suppression as long as it's black people being victims."

Please prove your claim. Where is your evidence of that?

You leftists are the king's of making people victims. That's what this whole mess going on is about. The LEFT is the one claiming that blacks are victims and have been claiming that for years. And now you want to try and put that on the right? Who is the one that said "If you don't vote Democratic your not black"?

Racism is not dead. But it is on life support,” Thomas Sowell once said. It is “kept alive mainly by the people who use it for an excuse or to keep minority communities fearful or resentful enough to turn out as a voting bloc on election day.”

It's the Democrats that are always claiming people are victims.

Now please prove that we are against peaceful protests.

It looks to me as if you're trying to play the victim yourself.

 

[rjs330]

You're missing something important, rjs330.

Now, at the present time, there are the peaceful protests. It's possible that there could be sporadic violence, but most are historically caused by political right wing thugs. This is how mass actions usually occur.

What also usually occurs is that this could change. If the practice of police murder and voter suppression are not ended, 1960s style full scale riots are going to occur causing significant damage to the country that will take decades to repair. This long recovery will be exacerbated by the coming economic recession or depression brought about by the mismanagement of the Trump Administration. This will be inevitable. A rational person should be afraid of the possibility of these riots.

If you value your childrens and grandchildrens future, you'd best be actively supporting the ending of police murder and voter suppression. This is also a Christian duty which flows out of loving one's neighbor.

Do you know the claim of rampant police unjustified violence against blacks is a false narrative? Do you really know what the statistics show? Do you know what the research shows?

It's nothing but a big LIE. There is no rampant unjustified police killing of black people.

Are you sold on the narrative or are you open to facts that show otherwise?

 

[rjs330]

I am going by how I read your words. I quoted it once. I don't see the need to keep quoting it.

Exactly you are going by your own biased assumption and not by what was actually written. That only gets you what you want to see and not what actually is.

 

[rjs330]

It looks to me as if you're trying to play the victim yourself.

It looks to me like you want to continue to twist what people say in order to portray a false narrative that fits your world view. Maybe if you looked at what is actually said, you might find the truth. But the evidence of your posts show you are only willing to twist what people say in order to support your own world view, because if you really took what they said at face value your belief system would crumble and you couldn't handle that.

 

[bukka]

Please prove your assurtion. You are claiming that we are against assembly to protest. Unless you have evidence of that, your claim is false.

That you would twist those against rioting and looting into p"angry about blacks and other people exercising their right of assembly to protest grievances such as police murder and voter suppression."
Speaks volumes. Prove your assurtion.

It's easy to see the Alt Right hostility towards the right of assembly to protest, particularly the black (now multiracial) right of assembly to protest police murder and voter suppression. You can see it right here on Christianity Board. It's easy to see how many threads have been started to denounce the BLM, but there isn't a single thread yet, by the Alt Right, in support of the freedom of assembly and the condemnation of police murder and voter suppression. The Alt Rights actions speak louder than its words.

Do you know the claim of rampant police unjustified violence against blacks is a false narrative? Do you really know what the statistics show? Do you know what the research shows?

It's nothing but a big LIE. There is no rampant unjustified police killing of black people.

Are you sold on the narrative or are you open to facts that show otherwise?

I have to scratch my head at that one. Police terrorism is not necessarily effective because of its murders caught on video, but in the whole manner of its enforcement in various communities. It is this terrorism that has propelled the protests. The police murders only triggered it.

Given your ignorance on this, perhaps you should listen to what one influential Christian apologist, David Wood, who has a ministry to Muslims, has to say about this fear of the police. The video is 52 minutes long, but, since you've failed, in a lifetime, to learn about this issue in all of its ramifications, as you should have, this will be a quick way to pick up much of the necessary information.

This is not a very flattering view of police departments in general.

 

[rjs330]

It's clear that you're ok with MILLIONS of unborn babies being murdered. And you call others "anti-christ"?

And a LOT of them are black babies.

 

[kcnalp]

Baby murdering anti-Christs love calling others anti-Christs. But that's what the Left does, accuse others of being and doing what they are.

 

[Enoch111]

It's easy to see the Alt Right hostility towards the right of assembly to protest, particularly the black (now multiracial) right of assembly to protest police murder and voter suppression.

There is no need to keep on pushing A FALSE NARRATIVE. There is a huge difference between assembling peacefully to protest, and rioting, looting, arson, and anarchy with destruction of property, and violence against innocents.

Also your references to "police murder" and "voter suppression" are PURE LEFTIST BALONEY. The actual statistics show that there are far fewer black suspects than white suspects killed by the police (and if they are innocent, they should not be fleeing). By the same token more blacks commit murder than whites (and even against blacks).

Secondly the demand for proper voter ID is definitely not "voter suppression". India -- with a population of over 1.4 billion people -- demands voter ID, since they believe in legal elections. Conversely the evil Democrats believe in stealing elections, hence resent the fact that a voter must present proper ID in order to vote.

BTW "Alt Right" is the resentful label applied to conservatives by Socialists and Marxists. So if you are choosing to align yourself with BLM and the Democrats, you have already opted for Satan's agenda. That is definitely not what Christians should be doing.

 

[rjs330]

It's easy to see the Alt Right hostility towards the right of assembly to protest, particularly the black (now multiracial) right of assembly to protest police murder and voter suppression. You can see it right here on Christianity Board. It's easy to see how many threads have been started to denounce the BLM, but there isn't a single thread yet, by the Alt Right, in support of the freedom of assembly and the condemnation of police murder and voter suppression. The Alt Rights actions speak louder than its words.



I have to scratch my head at that one. Police terrorism is not necessarily effective because of its murders caught on video, but in the whole manner of its enforcement in various communities. It is this terrorism that has propelled the protests. The police murders only triggered it.

Given your ignorance on this, perhaps you should listen to what one influential Christian apologist, David Wood, who has a ministry to Muslims, has to say about this fear of the police. The video is 52 minutes long, but, since you've failed, in a lifetime, to learn about this issue in all of its ramifications, as you should have, this will be a quick way to pick up much of the necessary information.

This is not a very flattering view of police departments in general.

So you can't prove your assurtion. I didn't think so. Is it another leftist false talking point? I can only assume it is since you have no evidence to support your claim. Just cause there is not a thread supporting peaceful protests that now equates to people being against peaceful protests? What kind of nonsensical logic is that?

So now if we don't start a thread that says we are for Jesus we are against him? We have to now specifically start a thread in order to meet your requirements? Stating we are against unjustified police violence in a thread is not enough for you? Have you started a thread supporting the Constitution? If not you must be against the Constitution.

Have you started a thread against riots and the violence from the BLM supporters or ANTIFA? Apparently by your logic you are for the riots and violence.

Again you ignore the FACTS. But never let the facts get in the way of a false narrative. We have seen police commit unjustified killings. Floyd was one of them. They are tragic and unjustified. They are also extremely rare. Officer that do such a thing should be fired and prosecuted. Those instances of that kind of behavior are rare. They are NOT hourly occurrences. They are not even daily occurrences. When you look at the number of police contacts and arrests the instances of this is less than .5%. How many professions can boast such a low percentage? You know the medical professionals misdiagnose over 20% of the time. They kill thousands of people a year.

We are all for an even lower percentage. And we are for things like eliminating choke holds and for mandatory descalation training. But we are not for proclaiming a false narrative.

 

[bukka]

So you can't prove your assurtion. I didn't think so. Is it another leftist false talking point? I can only assume it is since you have no evidence to support your claim. Just cause there is not a thread supporting peaceful protests that now equates to people being against peaceful protests? What kind of nonsensical logic is that?

So now if we don't start a thread that says we are for Jesus we are against him? We have to now specifically start a thread in order to meet your requirements? Stating we are against unjustified police violence in a thread is not enough for you? Have you started a thread supporting the Constitution? If not you must be against the Constitution.

Have you started a thread against riots and the violence from the BLM supporters or ANTIFA? Apparently by your logic you are for the riots and violence.

Again you ignore the FACTS. But never let the facts get in the way of a false narrative. We have seen police commit unjustified killings. Floyd was one of them. They are tragic and unjustified. They are also extremely rare. Officer that do such a thing should be fired and prosecuted. Those instances of that kind of behavior are rare. They are NOT hourly occurrences. They are not even daily occurrences. When you look at the number of police contacts and arrests the instances of this is less than .5%. How many professions can boast such a low percentage? You know the medical professionals misdiagnose over 20% of the time. They kill thousands of people a year.

We are all for an even lower percentage. And we are for things like eliminating choke holds and for mandatory descalation training. But we are not for proclaiming a false narrative.

I shall continue to disagree with you. Since you failed to address my prior answers, it is pointless to continue with you.

Concerning the BLM, I can only see the indifference of people of your political persuasion have towards the large bulk of protests that were peaceful and went to the conclusion of their protests without incident. I would say that these peaceful protests are feared by your "side" and are much more numerous than you'd like to acknowledge.

Then there are the multitudes of black, white, rich, poor, prominent and not well-known, clergy, active and retired military personnel, doctors, lawyers, in short, the face of America within them and behind them. It is in these multitudes and the political power that's behind it that the future of the country lays. And it's going to change things. I suspect that your "side" fears these changes. I would recommend to you to get used to the idea of change and walk more closely with Christ. I suggest abandoning the chimera of a supposed "Christian world". Many are called but few are chosen. You have to expect, at a certain point, that that many will do things the few object to.

I will use the term Alt Right, which is an abbreviation of alternative right, in this forum concerning those subjects to which it seems applicable, especially those involving race and civil rights. I sense on this forum an intense hostility to black people coming from certain individuals. As a Christian, I shall be patient regarding that hatred but I must be honest and call things as I see it. I see white supremacists here.

For me, I reject the Trump prophecies. For me, only Jesus is the Christ, the Savior and Lord. I have no need for other "christs", other supposed anointed leaders.

I reject Donald Trump as being anointed by God and having any especial divine mandate to rule and to exact obedience.

I reject the win at all costs situation ethics that accepts Donald Trump as anointed by God or is disgracefully silent about that blasphemous belief when it should be exposed, denounced and rejected.

I reject situation ethics that promotes an anti-christ and can also be used to justify abortion.

I'm not interested in narratives. I'm interested in the truth.

 

[kcnalp]

I reject Donald Trump as being anointed by God and having any especial divine mandate to rule and to exact obedience.

But you vote for baby murderers. Pity you on Judgement Day.