Burn your LIST : Trust In Christ Instead.

[Behold]

Reader,

God's "Gift of Salvation" can't fail you, because its Eternal Life.........not Temporary.
God's Salvation forgives you, saves you, and Keeps you Saved.
How?
A.) "The Cross of Christ".......is God's Salvation, and you can't do that or keep that......you can only RECEIVE from God by FAITH = .....

1. "The Gift of Salvation"...

2.) "The Gift of Righteousness"

3.) and "The Gift of Eternal Life".

Now, if God's Son's Blood and Death Sacrifice for you could not sustain your ""eternal life ("God's Gift of Salvation") as well as give it to you for FREE...
= If God's Son's Blood Atonement could not sustain your Salvation, for eternity, then it would be no good.
However, as God can't Fail, and because Jesus is The God-Man on The Cross...then we see that God's Blood can't fail you, and will always : = Keep You Saved.

Reader, God's Son's Blood is Full Payment for the "sin of the World"... as "all who call on the Name of Jesus (Believing) shall be saved.""
So, we see that THE Eternally Cleansing Blood of Jesus is able to forgive every sinner in the world for the last 2000 yrs.......so, this Blood of Jesus can certainly eternally deal with your sin, and keep you = Covered, or "washed in the Blood of The Lamb".

Now, lets get rid of your unbelief.
And, if im talking to you, then how do we know that you have unbelief...(no real faith in Christ)....Its because you have a Self Saving LIST that you are trying to do and keep, that you BELIEVE that if you do and keep, if you will continue to do it all, or try to.. then you wont lose your Salvation.

Let me show you your list.

Now, Read this Eternal Truth and I'll show you your Self Saving List.

1.) = Jesus who saved me with His Blood, keeps me saved no matter what, for as long as God exists.

Here it is again... Jesus who saved me with His BLOOD, keeps me saved no matter, = for as long as God exists.

Now, look at your response...
Notice how you read "no matter what" and suddenly your Self SAVING LIST.... showed up <.
You want to argue your SELF SAVING LIST... You want to post your LIST of "what i do to try to stay saved"......"here is my list, and i have a verse, and , and, and, and..............>.""

Now see your List that DENIES that Jesus Keeps you saved, no matter what? ???
Take a good long look at your CROSS DENYING LIST.
That List is in Fact, your own Self Righteous CROSS and you are hanging on it right now and you want to post some opinions and some misunderstood verses to try to falsely prove just how large is your self saving LIST and just how heavy is your Cross of Self righteousness.

And what is Your SELF Righteousness?....Its Your trying to make SELF>.....right with God.
Paul teaches that you are ..."fallen from Grace".
And that is why you have your SELF SAVING LIST that you want to tell us about, again.
Well, Listen up.... deceived one...
God is not interested in your Self Saving List, and He is not pleased that you have a big one, ... because HE already Saved you with HIS "GIFT of Salvation"", and you have relaced God's Salvation GIFT with your Cross of Christ offending : SELF SAVING LIST.

Now...Here is God's Saving List"...= "believe on Jesus whom God Sent".
And that's it.
"Faith in Christ".....>"Justification BY faith without works or deed of (Moses) Law" (including commandment keeping).

Now look at your Self Saving List again...

See it?

Paul teaches that you are "fallen from Grace".

Now you have to get rid of it, or you'll stay a confused Hebrews 6:1 failed disciple who can't understand God's Salvation, and can't get anything from the Bible, other then your confused opinion, or some Heretics Theology.

Now if you are that Self Saver that ive describe very clearly.....and you are honest with Yourself and God.... THEN Here is how you get rid of your = Blood of CHRIST Offending Self Saving Carnal LIST .
= You read John 14:6 and you actually believe it.
Then ask yourself.......

Q.) ..."well, as i dont TRULY Trust in Christ to keep me saved, no matter what, then WHO AM I TRUSING IN, TO Keep me SAVED? ????????????.

A.) Look at your Self Saving LIST for Your = Blood Of CHRIST Offending ANSWER.

Now, get rid of your list....GET RID OF YOUR < Self Saving > LIST FOREVER.....and Trust only and always in Christ Alone to keep you saved, instead,.... is how you get rid of your Self Saving- Blood of CHRIST = offending LIST, and return to REAL FAITH in Christ.

 

[Behold]

Reader.

More than likely the reason you have a Self Saving List to try to keep you saved, instead of Real Faith in Christ to keep you saved......is because you simply dont understand yet, that Eternal Salvation is All of God, and He begins it and completes it FOR YOU , = Through Christ who is God's Grace.....

Philippians 1:6

vs..

Your Discipleship.......which YOU DO......as YOUR work.


See those 2 ??...........they are not the same.

Listen,
God our Father is totally and eternally responsible for saving you and keeping you saved.........by "Grace through Faith"........as "The Gift of Salvation" that is ETERNAL.
Philippians 1:6

Whereas, YOUR PART ...= after you have received God's ""Gift of Salvation""= Who Is JESUS The Christ.......and then now having what Jesus FINISHED On The Cross 2000 yrs ago for you.....= you now BEGIN your daily discipleship.....= not to stay saved, but because you are saved, and now eternally forgiven and washed eternally in the Blood of Jesus who is the New Covenant and New Testament.

 

[PS95]

Reader.

More than likely the reason you have a Self Saving List to try to keep you saved, instead of Real Faith in Christ to keep you saved......is because you simply dont understand yet, that Eternal Salvation is All of God, and He begins it and completes it FOR YOU , = Through Christ who is God's Grace.....

vs..

Your Discipleship.......which YOU DO......as YOUR work.


See those 2 ??...........they are not the same.

Listen,
God our Father is totally and eternally responsible for saving you and keeping you saved.........by "Grace through Faith"........as "The Gift of Salvation" that is ETERNAL.
Philippians 1:6

Whereas, YOUR PART ...= after you have received God's ""Gift of Salvation""= Who Is JESUS The Christ.......and then now having what Jesus FINISHED On The Cross 2000 yrs ago for you.....= you now BEGIN your daily discipleship.....= not to stay saved, but because you are saved, and now eternally forgiven and washed eternally in the Blood of Jesus who is the New Covenant and New Testament.

we are justified by grace thru faith in Jesus. We agree.
After we receive Christ as Savior--- There is no law, so there is no sin, right?
Or can we still sin by our behavior? Do we repent if we do sin?
So what is discipleship for? Is it optional to obey discipleship?

 

[Behold]

After we receive Christ as Savior--- There is no law, so there is no sin, right?

The Law of Moses is still in effect for the UNBELIEVERS, worldwide, because they are not Born again.
So, they still exist as Judged by The Law, as a SINNER.. "damned".... "under the Law".......so, they are found here..

= John 3:36.


Whereas, the SAINT.......the Born again CHRISTian, who is "IN CHRIST", who is the Kingdom of God.... where Moses Law does not exist, (as this is the Kingdom of God, and there is no Moses LAW found there).
See, all who are a part of the KOG are born again into it... forever.
And this mean that the born again... are :

= "not under the Law of Moses, but Under (God's) GRACE"....

And """where there is no Law, there is no SIN - Transgession""... being defined by the Law.

This is why Romans 4:8 and 2 Corin 5:19 teaches us that God never charges sin to a CHRISTIAN.

""where there is no LAW, there is no Sin (Transgression) "" found.

Now This does not mean that you will walk on water speaking in tongues while your Halo glows in the dark.
No.
It means that the LAW that previously had dominion over you before you became BORN AGAIN out of it...., can never again define what you do at all.

= This is the place of God's Grace, where "there is no Moses Law" that can define you, or your deeds..

A.).. The Born again are DEFINED by The Blood of Jesus, as being "made righteous", as its the Blood Covenant between Jesus and God that becomes our redemption """through the righteousness of Faith""""... which is eternal.
Therefore, .. God only sees the Born again as "in Christ", and "one wtih God" as a "Heir of God", and a "joint Heir with Jesus".
"of the seed of Abraham".

AA.) = This is GOD's EYES..........and He only SEES the Eternally REDEEMED CHRISTIAN through the Blood of Jesus = as eternally Redeemed by the BLood of JESUS.
He does not see us through MOSES Law., as Moses law is for the Unbelievers.
God only sees Christ's Redeemed.... ""through the BLOOD of Christ"" as being made free from sin, eternally forgiven,= "seated in Heavenly places in Christ".

Listen, Reader......if you are born again, you are born again INTO God's Spirit by The Holy Spirit.
You could not be there, if you had sin....or could ever have it again.
So, if you asked God right now....>"Father where am i".....God would happily tell you......"my Son, My Daughter, you are born again= """IN ME.......In Christ"", "seated right next to me".....= "Seated in Heavenly places in Christ".
That is how GOD SEES the Born again for Eternity........and never does Father God see the born again through Moses condemning Law or 10 Commandments.

So, Reader,
= to "put on the Helmet of Salvation", which Paul teaches is the renewed mind......is when you completely understand How God sees you as a BORN again Christian for ETERNITY.
We are to see ourselves the same way that God sees us, which is the "mind of Christ".... and that is your "helmet of Salvation", and this is how you "wallk in the Spirit".

So what is discipleship for?

Discipleship is simply to give your redeemed life back to God as your daily living walk of faith.

Like this..."Today, i will serve God faithfull......not to be saved....but because i already am and so i show my LOVE to God and Christ by my daily Discipeship.

Think of it as being Married to Jesus.
When you are married......its not that you work to earn it......you work because you are married to them, already.

Salvation is Marriage To Jesus, and we HAVE IT.... He is the Head of "the Body" and "we are the body of Christ".
So, our discipleship, is not the marriage that has already taken place.... its our daily loving God and Son with our LIVES because we ARE married to them already.
We dont have to work to be married to Jesus........We are doing those things out of LOVE, already being married....already being Saved, Redeemed, and having eternal life.
Thats our discipleship.

Here is another way i teach this..

The NT scripture shares the true story of Hooker, a Whore.......and Jesus has Forgiven Her all her sin, and her sin were DEEP and UGLY for YEARS.
So, she has been "forgiven much"....the scriptures teach.
And the Scriptures teach that she found Jesus in a Pharisee's house, and She crawled on her hands and knees across a rough stone dirty floor, all the way to Christ's Feet and washed his feet with her TEARS.
See those TEARS?
Those are Tears of utter JOY !!
She is not doing this for Jesus because she's trying to stay saved by Discipleship.......She's doing this because she is FORGIVEN MUCH... and wants to show her thankful heart to Her Beautiful Savior, Christ The Lord.
And that is why we perform DISCIPLESHIP.........its not to be saved.......its because we forever are saved and forgiven so much....and we are thankful so we do those works.....we do that daily serving....>"present your body as a living sacrifice to God, which is your reasonable SERVICE"..

Its our Service to/for the one we love......= is our dicipleship........and we serve faithfully because we already HAVE Eternal Salvation, Eternal Forgiveness, and Etermal Life., that God has GIFTED TO US, because we have Trusted in Christ.

 

[PS95]

And this mean that the born again... are :

= "not under the Law of Moses, but Under (God's) GRACE"....

And """where there is no Law, there is no SIN - Transgession""... being defined by the Law.

This is why Romans 4:8 and 2 Corin 5:19 teaches us that God never charges sin to a CHRISTIAN.

""where there is no LAW, there is no Sin (Transgression) "" found.

I'm just trying to be clear and simple and fully understand you. Yes and no will do.
I just don't want to think you mean something when you meant another.

1. The no law verses mean there is nothing we can do that is sinful?

2. All of our sins (future ones) are already forgiven and we have no further need to ever repent because there is no sin?

Now This does not mean that you will walk on water speaking in tongues while your Halo glows in the dark.
No.
It means that the LAW that previously had dominion over you before you became BORN AGAIN out of it...., can never again define what you do at all.

= This is the place of God's Grace, where "there is no Moses Law" that can define you.

A.).. The Born again are DEFINED by The Blood of Jesus, as being "made righteous", as its the Blood Covenant between Jesus and God that becomes our redemption """through the righteousness of Faith""""... which is eternal.
Therefore, .. God only sees the Born again as "in Christ", and "one wtih God" as a "Heir of God", and a "joint Heir with Jesus".
"of the seed of Abraham".

AA.) = This is GOD's EYES..........and He only SEES the Eternally REDEEMED CHRISTIAN through the Blood of Jesus = as eternally Redeemed by the BLood of JESUS.
He does not see us through MOSES Law., as Moses law is for the Unbelievers.
God only sees Christ's Redeemed.... ""through the BLOOD of Christ"" as being made free from sin, eternally forgiven,= "seated in Heavenly places in Christ".

Listen, Reader......if you are born again, you are born again INTO God's Spirit by The Holy Spirit.
You could not be there, if you had sin....or could ever have it again.
So, if you asked God right now....>"Father where am i".....God would happily tell you......"my Son, My Daughter, you are born again= """IN ME.......In Christ"", "seated right next to me".....= "Seated in Heavenly places in Christ".
That is how GOD SEES the Born again for Eternity........and never does Father God see the born again through Moses condemning Law or 10 Commandments.

So, Reader,
= to "put on the Helmet of Salvation", which Paul teaches is the renewed mind......is when you completely understand How God sees you as a BORN again Christian for ETERNITY.
We are to see ourselves the same way that God sees us, which is the "mind of Christ".... and that is your "helmet of Salvation", and this is how you "wallk in the Spirit".



Discipleship is simply to give your redeemed life back to God as your daily living walk of faith.

Like this..."Today, i will serve God faithfull......not to be saved....but because i already am and so i show my LOVE to God and Christ by my daily Discipeship.

Think of it as being Married to Jesus.
When you are married......its not that you work to earn it......you work because you are married to them, already.

Salvation is Marriage To Jesus, and we HAVE IT.... He is the Head of "the Body" and "we are the body of Christ".
So, our discipleship, is not the marriage that has already taken place.... its our daily loving God and Son with our LIVES because we ARE married to them already.
We dont have to work to be married to Jesus........We are doing those things out of LOVE, already being married....already being Saved, Redeemed, and having eternal life.
Thats our discipleship.

Here is another way i teach this..

The NT scripture shares the true story of Hooker, a Whore.......and Jesus has Forgiven Her all her sin, and her sin were DEEP and UGLY for YEARS.
So, she has been "forgiven much"....the scriptures teach.
And the Scriptures teach that she found Jesus in a Pharisee's house, and She crawled on her hands and knees across a rough stone dirty floor, all the way to Christ's Feet and washed his feet with her TEARS.
See those TEARS?
Those are Tears of utter JOY !!
She is not doing this for Jesus because she's trying to stay saved by Discipleship.......She's doing this because she is FORGIVEN MUCH... and wants to show her thankful heart to Her Beautiful Savior, Christ The Lord.
And that is why we perform DISCIPLESHIP.........its not to be saved.......its because we forever are saved and forgiven so much....and we are thankful so we do those works.....we do that daily serving....>"present your body as a living sacrifice to God, which is your reasonable SERVICE"..

Its our Service to/for the one we love......= is our dicipleship........and we serve faithfull because we already HAVE Eternal Salvation, Eternal Forgiveness, and Etermal Life., that God has GIFTED TO US, because we have Trusted in Christ.

This is a nice description. I agree that this. I'm glad I asked you this.
I would just add that a part of this is being convicted by the Spirit (not condemned) when we do something not pleasing to the Lord, and we now see it, and also see it as ugly and want it no more.
We grow during this time being made more and more like Jesus.
Are you with me here?

 

[Behold]

1. The no law verses mean there is nothing we can do that is sinful?

A Christian can commit "works of the flesh".........and when we were under the law, then the Law could define those works as "sin".

But now......."we are not under the law"..... (the born again).........but UNDER GRACE".....

Therefore, there is no Moses Law that has dominion over the Christian, any longer.

= "Where there is no Law, there is no Sin (Transgression)".. found.

This is why Romans 4 and 2 Corin 5:19, say that God does not charge SIN to the born again., as He can only do that when the LAW has dominion over you.

The born again.....>"are NOT UNDER THE LAW.............but under (God's) Grace"...

2. All of our sins (future ones) are already forgiven

All sin is forgiven by the Blood of Jesus.......which happens on the day of your Salvation.

Se we find, that "where sin abounds, (God's) GRACE (who is Jesus on The Cross) more Abounds".

Also, once you are born again, you are "not under the Law, but under "God's Grace"... so there is no more dominion of Moses Law over you, that can define you as anything, ever again.
You are now eternally defined by the Blood Atonement as having become "made righteous"......"the righteousness of God in Christ".

when we do something not pleasing to the Lord, and we now see it, and also see it as ugly and want it no more.

Any type of Carnal behavior is always going to get an "inner check".. a "STOP-SIGN" on the inside of you, that shows you not to do it.
Thats the Holy Spirit dealing with your "inner man".. through your conscience.

 

[Behold]

Reader,

If you are a born again Christian, and not just a water baptized religious pretender, then when God saved you, you are saved.
Its done.
You have receive something that JESUS COMPLETED 2000 yrs ago, and told you so from THe Cross when He said.. ."IT" ... IS.. .Finished".

"IT"< is your Eternal Salvation.

Let me try that again. = When GOD SAVED YOU..............YOU are SAVED.

Now, what did you do to earn it?

A.) Nothing

And What can you do to keep your Salvation?

A.) Nothing.

Philippians 1:6

So, if you are trying not to lose it, or believe that you can, then you dont understand God's Salvation yet.
Now, on this forum there are many who dont understand God's Salvation, and they'll happily try to convince you that you are responsible for keeping it. Vs, Trusting in Christ instead. So, when you read on a forum, or online, or in a book or commentary... or watch a video... where some lying Heretic is telling you again that you can lose your Salvation, then they are teaching you that God's Son's Blood and Death, that is """the ONE TIme......ETERNAL Sacifice for sin"""...........really isn't eternal.
So, they just lied to you, and they will again.
Some here, will feel the compulsion to come to my Thread and lie to you again because they enjoy "trodding underfoot the Blood of Jesus" on a Public forum by telling you that your Salvation can be lost.

Now, lets look briefly at Romans 5, the main parts...

1.) vs 10 says that you were an ENEMY of God, before He saved you on that day of your Salvation.

2.) vs 8 says that God saved you while you were still a sinner.

So, Paul teaches that you were an enemy of God, and a sinner, and that is all you brought to God on the day of your Salvation.

Understand?

So, if you had 'repented of all your sin"... then you were still a unforgive sinner and an enemy of God......until the moment that you gave God your faith in Christ. And when you did that........God gave you : verse 11.

Romans 11 says you "received the Atonement"........and the Atonement is a Complted GIFT of GOD that contains..

A.) Eternal Salvation
B.) Eternal Righteousness
C.) Eternal Forgiveness

See those 3 Eternal "Gifts?"......Having those proves you have been RECONCILED to God.....= forever. Romans 10.

And how?
How did God Reconcile you FOREVER to Himself?

Romans 8 explains that you were RECONCILED to God forever by : "The DEATH of HIS SON".

Now can you do that to keep from losing your Salvation?

Listen...... where did your Eternal Salvation happen originally>?
Your Eternal Salvation happened on THE CROSS.... So, THERE is where you find your ETERNAL Reconciliation, and Redemption, and Justification and Sanctification.....as they are given for Free, only based on : THE DEATH of GOD's SON Jesus, on THE CROSS.

This is why the GOSPEL, is "we preach CHRIST CRUCIFIED".........and, "the preaching of THE CROSS is the POWER OF GOD, unto SALVATION, to/for = Everyone Who Believes"........as only a BELIEVER can be Reconciled to God and born again only based on The Cross of Christ.

Now, did you notice what is missing from God's Redemption, and Reconciliation, and Justifcation, and Forgiveness, and Eternal life?

What is missing is you doing anything.
See it?
You are not a part of God's Eternal Salvation, except for the fact that you can RECEIVE IT by Faith, because our "FAITH is counted by God, as (Christ's) Righteousness"......given to us for FREE : as ""THE GIFT Of Salvation"

So, if you are trying to stay saved, then you do not understand that you can't do that for yourself.........
Reader....You can't cause yourself to stay saved anymore then you could cause God's Salvation, as Salvation is Jesus on THE CROSS, and you can't do that for yourself........You cant earn that or keep it.
But you can RECEIVE IT and have it FOREVER.... as God's Completed "GIFT OF SALVATION""" that Jesus's Blood and Death COMPLETED FOR YOU>.. 2000 yrs ago.

Now, if you are worried about losing your salvation, then first of all, stop listening to Self Righteous Heretics who want you to believe you can lose it.
Turn them off.
Get them out of your face. Get them off your SCREEN.
DELETE THEM.

And if you have fallen victim to them, then Paul says you are "bewitched" by them, and you are "fallen from Grace" (tho still saved), and you are "in the Flesh"....which is your carnal mind that has trusted these liars who caused you to lose your real faith in Christ.

And now you need to get it back, and im showing you how, again.

Listen,
.... you just read that you were an enemy of God and a sinner, = when God saved you forever, throught Christ's Blood and Death.
So, now you are belong to God, as you've been purchased with Jesus's Blood Covenant, and that's an eternal Salvation.
Your Salvation is not what you do.......its what God gave to you for FREE, when you gave your faith in Christ to God.
The Cross Of Christ is a Divine Exchange, whereby,.. "God hath made JESUS to Be sin for us"......on the Cross, and we then receive from God......."The Gift of Righteousness".
See that : EXCHANGE that happens at The Cross of Christ, when you give God your faith?
See what God did for you?
See it?
Thats an ETERNAL SALVATION.

Reader.... God's Salvation, who is Jesus on The Cross, is ETERNAL........ and that is why its defined as : ETERNAL LIFE.

Now, if a religious self righteous Heretic has misled and deceived and you to believe that you can lose your Salvation, then turn from this wrong mind, that wrong faith........ and place your REAL faith Here.

A.) Jesus who SAVED ME .. will keep me saved.......EXACTLY the same way He saved me.

John 14:6

 

[Armour of God]

I choose to avoid bad deeds and do good deeds. And I ask for forgiveness for my bad deeds.

 

[Wrangler]

A Christian can commit "works of the flesh".........and when we were under the law, then the Law could define those works as "sin".

But now......."we are not under the law"..... (the born again).........but UNDER GRACE".....

Therefore, there is no Moses Law that has dominion over the Christian, any longer.

The things you read on the internet

I choose to avoid bad deeds and do good deeds. And I ask for forgiveness for my bad deeds.

Behold denies a born again person to sin, to do bad deeds. He calls it "works of the flesh." I fear his semantic argument won't hold up on Judgment Day.

 

[amigo de christo]

WAY and much farther along are we . This ecumiencal intefaith IS THE JUDGMENT OF GOD
against all who loved a lie and had embraced a lie . IT IS THE LIE and it has come cloaked
as though it be the peace plan of GOD when it has clearly denied the very peace plan of GOD .
WHAT IS the peace plan of GOD . TO BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST so as one can be reconciled
to and have peace with GOD . but its intefaith interreligious dialgoue HAS DENEID THIS
as it hollers ALL religoins serve the same GOD in different and diverse ways .
KINDA ODD dont ya think . WHEN ONLY JESUS , IS THE ONLY WAY and to be saved and have peace
with GOD , ONE MUST Believe . Yalls popes , yalls nar realm , yalls bidens and yalls TRUMP
cannot save you . THEY ALL are co helpers to and co supporters of that one lie .
SO now a word . CURSED is the man whose hope be in man
but BLESSED be the man whose hope bE IN GOD thus in HIS CHRIST , thus would have been IN ALL THINGS
he taught . SO again i say FLEE any , flee all , flee who ever and whaterver is anyway
connected to the inclusive god called satan and its interfiath of anti christ peace plan . AN D NOW .
cause guess what these co workers of satan actually beleive
this lie , this merger with anti christ and the beast is gonna bring them , PEACE N SAFETY .
And now a word .
FOR WHEN they shall say peace n safety , THEN SUDDEN destruction shall come upon them all and they will NOT escape .
YOU have had me pegged wrong all along . I do b e watching
and what i say to one i say to all watch . CAUSE THAT DOOR will close in an instant
and by the signs of the times , WATCH . cause all outside shall wail .
AND beleieve you me any false religoin as well as anyone within christendom dressed in wool
WHO HAS ANYTHING to do AT ALL with this ecumeincal intefaith , OH THEY GONNA WAIL , only it will be TOO LATE .

 

[amigo de christo]

Reader,

If you are a born again Christian, and not just a water baptized religious pretender, then when God saved you, you are saved.
Its done.
You have receive something that JESUS COMPLETED 2000 yrs ago, and told you so from THe Cross when He said.. ."IT" ... IS.. .Finished".

"IT"< is your Eternal Salvation.

Let me try that again. = When GOD SAVED YOU..............YOU are SAVED.

Now, what did you do to earn it?

A.) Nothing

And What can you do to keep your Salvation?

A.) Nothing.

Philippians 1:6

So, if you are trying not to lose it, or believe that you can, then you dont understand God's Salvation yet.
Now, on this forum there are many who dont understand God's Salvation, and they'll happily try to convince you that you are responsible for keeping it. Vs, Trusting in Christ instead. So, when you read on a forum, or online, or in a book or commentary... or watch a video... where some lying Heretic is telling you again that you can lose your Salvation, then they are teaching you that God's Son's Blood and Death, that is """the ONE TIme......ETERNAL Sacifice for sin"""...........really isn't eternal.
So, they just lied to you, and they will again.
Some here, will feel the compulsion to come to my Thread and lie to you again because they enjoy "trodding underfoot the Blood of Jesus" on a Public forum by telling you that your Salvation can be lost.

Now, lets look briefly at Romans 5, the main parts...

1.) vs 10 says that you were an ENEMY of God, before He saved you on that day of your Salvation.

2.) vs 8 says that God saved you while you were still a sinner.

So, Paul teaches that you were an enemy of God, and a sinner, and that is all you brought to God on the day of your Salvation.

Understand?

So, if you had 'repented of all your sin"... then you were still a unforgive sinner and an enemy of God......until the moment that you gave God your faith in Christ. And when you did that........God gave you : verse 11.

Romans 11 says you "received the Atonement"........and the Atonement is a Complted GIFT of GOD that contains..

A.) Eternal Salvation
B.) Eternal Righteousness
C.) Eternal Forgiveness

See those 3 Eternal "Gifts?"......Having those proves you have been RECONCILED to God.....= forever. Romans 10.

And how?
How did God Reconcile you FOREVER to Himself?

Romans 8 explains that you were RECONCILED to God forever by : "The DEATH of HIS SON".

Now can you do that to keep from losing your Salvation?

Listen...... where did your Eternal Salvation happen originally>?
Your Eternal Salvation happened on THE CROSS.... So, THERE is where you find your ETERNAL Reconciliation, and Redemption, and Justification and Sanctification.....as they are given for Free, only based on : THE DEATH of GOD's SON Jesus, on THE CROSS.

This is why the GOSPEL, is "we preach CHRIST CRUCIFIED".........and, "the preaching of THE CROSS is the POWER OF GOD, unto SALVATION, to/for = Everyone Who Believes"........as only a BELIEVER can be Reconciled to God and born again only based on The Cross of Christ.

Now, did you notice what is missing from God's Redemption, and Reconciliation, and Justifcation, and Forgiveness, and Eternal life?

What is missing is you doing anything.
See it?
You are not a part of God's Eternal Salvation, except for the fact that you can RECEIVE IT by Faith, because our "FAITH is counted by God, as (Christ's) Righteousness"......given to us for FREE : as ""THE GIFT Of Salvation"

So, if you are trying to stay saved, then you do not understand that you can't do that for yourself.........
Reader....You can't cause yourself to stay saved anymore then you could cause God's Salvation, as Salvation is Jesus on THE CROSS, and you can't do that for yourself........You cant earn that or keep it.
But you can RECEIVE IT and have it FOREVER.... as God's Completed "GIFT OF SALVATION""" that Jesus's Blood and Death COMPLETED FOR YOU>.. 2000 yrs ago.

Now, if you are worried about losing your salvation, then first of all, stop listening to Self Righteous Heretics who want you to believe you can lose it.
Turn them off.
Get them out of your face. Get them off your SCREEN.
DELETE THEM.

And if you have fallen victim to them, then Paul says you are "bewitched" by them, and you are "fallen from Grace" (tho still saved), and you are "in the Flesh"....which is your carnal mind that has trusted these liars who caused you to lose your real faith in Christ.

And now you need to get it back, and im showing you how, again.

Listen,
.... you just read that you were an enemy of God and a sinner, = when God saved you forever, throught Christ's Blood and Death.
So, now you are belong to God, as you've been purchased with Jesus's Blood Covenant, and that's an eternal Salvation.
Your Salvation is not what you do.......its what God gave to you for FREE, when you gave your faith in Christ to God.
The Cross Of Christ is a Divine Exchange, whereby,.. "God hath made JESUS to Be sin for us"......on the Cross, and we then receive from God......."The Gift of Righteousness".
See that : EXCHANGE that happens at The Cross of Christ, when you give God your faith?
See what God did for you?
See it?
Thats an ETERNAL SALVATION.

Reader.... God's Salvation, who is Jesus on The Cross, is ETERNAL........ and that is why its defined as : ETERNAL LIFE.

Now, if a religious self righteous Heretic has misled and deceived and you to believe that you can lose your Salvation, then turn from this wrong mind, that wrong faith........ and place your REAL faith Here.

A.) Jesus who SAVED ME .. will keep me saved.......EXACTLY the same way He saved me.

John 14:6

but always remember that one cannot cliam ye must BELEIVE on JESUS
and then hold to ecumeincal intefaith which has LIED to all religoins as well as to christendom
saying HEY WE ALL coming to GOD in different and d iverse ways .
YE CANNOT DO BOTH . its either JESUS and faith in HIM we cling to and believe
OR its a lie of this interrelgious dialgoue peace plan . BUT IT CANNOT and WLL NOT be both .
SO do encourage me a little and say , I BEHOLD shun this all inclusieve interfaith peace plan and its lie
and shall cling ONLY TO FAITH IN JESUS . go on , g ive me some encouragement . Let me know
you KNOW of its deadly dangers and that we must ONLY PREACH JESUS to all .

 

[Armour of God]

Behold denies a born again person to sin, to do bad deeds. He calls it "works of the flesh." I fear his semantic argument won't hold up on Judgment Day.

When ever I say something like I did, I get someone objecting to it in some way or another. I still don't understand their arguments. I'm now just trying to put it in its simplest form to see if anyone still objects.

Some seem to think that you can live a life of unrepentant sin and still be saved if you have faith.
Others think they are free from the temptation of sin therefore dont need Gods armour.

I don't know, it makes no sense to me, I grew up in a Catholic family and although I reject some of their dogmas now (particularly about Mary) I still do believe in many of their teachings.

I believe we need faith and good deeds, and repent for our sins because we will be judged as it says many times in the bible.

And you'll probably disagree with this one but I think being born again just means to be baptised. Water from baptism. The spirit as it came down to Jesus when he was baptised. After speaking with Nicodemus, the rest of John 3 speaks about baptism as well. So for me it looks like all fingers point to that. That's what Catholics believe. That's why I had never heard of this term born again, I thought it meant someone who left the faith and then returned like I did, but it's not, to protestants it means something else

 

[amigo de christo]

I choose to avoid bad deeds and do good deeds. And I ask for forgiveness for my bad deeds.

To abstain from all appearance of evil and to do that which is pleasing in the sight of GOD .
And if one do err they from a truly repentant heart confess and ask forgiveness .
To have the desires that please God and the ability to do so , a born again JESUS CHRIST beleiving saint has been given by GOD .
SO now a word .
You messed up real bad when in your other letter you said BORN again simply means WATER baptism .
THOUGH one who has been born again would surely go ahead and do .
The rcc still has a bit of the wrong hold on you . but you dig in that bible daily
and it will become clearer and clearer to you .
So now another word .
WHY in the heck , and b elieve you me heck as not the f irst word that popped into my mind , though it was not a curse word either
but rather a phrase , WOULD ANYONE whose faith be IN THE TRUE JESUS
in any way be gathering under anyone or anything , whether donkey , tree or angel or man
THAT has anything to do with ecuemincal intefaith . And the answer to that question is
IT AINT GOOD n or a good sign at all . WHY wo uld one who loveth CHRIST and thus GOD
have ever been led into such an apostacy led of none other than satan himself .

 

[Armour of God]

You messed up real bad when in your other letter you said BORN again simply means WATER baptism .
THOUGH one who has been born again would surely go ahead and do .
The rcc still has a bit of the wrong hold on you . but you dig in that bible daily
and it will become clearer and clearer to you

I'm not sure about that. The more I read John 3 the more it looks like born again is baptism.

- Water and spirit. Both things of baptism.
- I can't see what water has to do with the Protestant understanding of it.
- Immediately after Jesus talks to Nicodemus, still in John 3, the bible speaks about baptism.

Can you at least understand why the early church and myself interpret it that way given the points that i mentioned?

 

[amigo de christo]

I'm not sure about that. The more I read John 3 the more it looks like born again is baptism.

- Water and spirit. Both things of baptism.
- I can't see what water has to do with the Protestant understanding of it.
- Immediately after Jesus talks to Nicodemus, still in John 3, the bible speaks about baptism.

Can you at least understand why the early church and myself interpret it that way given the points that i mentioned?

no my friend . the early true church knew
that even in order for one to be water baptized they had to absolutely first have BELIEVE ON JESUS .
but yes i do know they all did perform the water baptism , ONLY UPON SOLID believes IN JESUS .
Never once on crying infant . that means SQUAT for one who beleives not . a baby knows only
WHERE be mamas paps and how to make wee wee and poo poo .
That RCC been of the darkness as far back as i can examine . And i do mean DARKNESS .
Let no man , woman or child sit under such a place , nor mormon , nor jw ,
nor under anything in any way remotely connected to ecumeinalism intefaith .
But yes i do ag ree they did and thus we do get water b aptized .

 

[Armour of God]

no my friend . the early true church knew
that even in order for one to be water baptized they had to absolutely first have BELIEVE ON JESUS .
but yes i do know they all did perform the water baptism , ONLY UPON SOLID believes IN JESUS .
Never once on crying infant . that means SQUAT for one who beleives not . a baby knows only
WHERE be mamas paps and how to make wee wee and poo poo .
That RCC been of the darkness as far back as i can examine . And i do mean DARKNESS .
Let no man , woman or child sit under such a place , nor mormon , nor jw ,
nor under anything in any way remotely connected to ecumeinalism intefaith .
But yes i do ag ree they did and thus we do get water b aptized .

So you do support baptism just not as an infant. A minor difference in my view. The acceptance of Christ comes with the confirmation, as an early teenager.

What do you mean the RCC has been of the darkness? My parents are Catholic, they're full of God's spirit, not from the darkness at all? I've been to their church and other Catholic churches, nothing dark about it, they worship God just like every Christian does? It's the original church that every other denomination came from?