California gets goahead to seek secession

[bbyrd009]

Well you seem to leave out parts of the Bible

bam bring them up and let's confront that then; might be better to grab one of my old threads or something for it tho

And you seem to proudly support recreational drugs, abortions, euthanasia, every kind of sexual immorality, witchcraft

not sure how you have gotten this idea, i can't think of one of those things i have not directly spoken out against Josho.
Got a quote? or even a memory?

you think it's coming completely fine for a Christian to worship Jesus and Buddha etc.

i'd have to ask the same for this, i have just recently got done ranting about Jesus hiding from the Two Greeks who came to worship Him, breaking up Nehushtan, etc. As for Buddha, my comments can be searched there, and if any gave you the impression that i was forwarding Buddha worship all i can do is apologize. Buddha would not even accept Buddha worship; guess they had Greeks too maybe lol

 

[bbyrd009]

Romans 1 you don't accept as truth, same goes for Romans 6, and you make a mockery out of what Jesus said about righteousness and the end times, and how we are meant to stay out off wickedness, keep watch and pray.

these might be your impressions, but my guess is we are just defining those terms differently.
anyway, thank God for ppl who disagree imo

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Sadly even though the legalization of medicinal cannabis may have been help for those who needed it for their diseases, whether you see it as right or wrong it really just puts Australia a step closer to legalizing recreational use, it's like a trojan horse. God may have created the plant, but people were never meant to smoke pot and get high, that was Satan's idea.

And you gotta remember witch doctors use the stuff to practice their sorcery, and the Satanic practice of sorcery goes all the way back to the old days in the Old Testament.

I look to licencing as the only way, not legalising drugs at all, as you still get busted if you are outside of the laws it gives and this is about being responsible and reasonable approach in handling it all, because what we have now is a laughing stock of morons and criminal opportunity as wide as you can get.

I have heard all the hysteria BS about dope being up there with all the major drugs, it's like Johnny gets caught with dope and the family goes into shock horror, oh my god Johnny a drug addict and they are running around like total moronic fools, who have no idea at all about the reality and they only make everything worse because of their total fool ignorance.

I know people who are on drugs in my street for 20 years one is selling heroin, cars come all day and night he is on the phone 24/7 like a business man flat out and been on that crap from his teens and he is 57yo now and he is as right as rain and the cops don't care about what he does.
Talk to him about dope and see him cringe in fear of it - Not !
But he did say that the new synthetic dope was way beyond any dope he has ever smoked and that dope grown under lights sends people schizo and is bad in that way.
I seen on TV here our government growing dope under lights for patients now.
Smoking dope will not stop cancer but just relive the depression from what I know of and who gives a toss if your dying, Oh no our dying loved one is going to become a drug addict in their last days shock horror, we can't have that now can we or bear to see them not depressed.

I can tell you that the government is that corrupted that it's beyond belief it's rotten to the core, your vote means nothing and the New World Order rules our government and our PM is the biggest criminal ever and it does not really take much to find out who he truly is and how he got so rich, he was in bed with the banking system in the USA who destroyed many family's, he is a Socialist that bought his way into the right wing party and has worked to kick out every conservative he could, he is a freemason and a Jesuit Catholic that works against Christianity for the NWO and pushes political correctness and only helps the filthy rich and supports all the trash who jumped ship giving them the red carpet treatment for his NWO masters and the same thing is going on all around the world, Poland is one country that is under attack by the NWO for not obeying their Nazi type of control over their country.
So the NWO has the power to disregard the voters of all nations and it's the same all over the world now and that's why Dope is being decriminalised, because the NWO want it that way, but I say no ! but it's coming regardless and it will just be this brain dead decriminalising crap, sadly only morons can't think of licencing is the best way to deal with such but they are to ignorant or stupid to realise the reality of such is the best way to go about it all.

 

[Josho]

bam bring them up and let's confront that then; might be better to grab one of my old threads or something for it tho

not sure how you have gotten this idea, i can't think of one of those things i have not directly spoken out against Josho.
Got a quote? or even a memory?
i'd have to ask the same for this, i have just recently got done ranting about Jesus hiding from the Two Greeks who came to worship Him, breaking up Nehushtan, etc. As for Buddha, my comments can be searched there, and if any gave you the impression that i was forwarding Buddha worship all i can do is apologize. Buddha would not even accept Buddha worship; guess they had Greeks too maybe lol

Oh well, then sorry for my misunderstanding on your position on stuff. It's just the way you reply sometimes, it makes me wonder why would you reply like that, but maybe you are just being sarcastic, I don't know. You are a mystery sometimes....

 

[Josho]

no it doesn't have to be a step towards legal use no more then the prescription for barbiturates, or opioids are a step towards legal use. but in the context of the law makers management of the situation it remains outside the mainstream controlled substance system so it can be ready for markets of legal use. hence the corruption involved.

in what was meant for what, are grapes meant for getting drunk? are poppies meant to use for killing pain that would be unbearable otherwise? its what men use something for, we as living flesh on the planet are permitted to do whatever with whatever we find. what you say is like saying the chemistry is devil's sorcery to make steel to build bridges with.

I find the recreational use of drugs is very wrong, it's opening up the door for Satan to play tricks on your mind, same with drunkeness. When you hallucinate what do you see? It opens up the supernatural in the wrong way, and what you actually see is demons. Don't listen to scientists saying "oh it's only the cycle of the brain." No it's not, it's much more. Same with getting high, again it opens up the door for Satan, and causes you to go off your face. Marijuana also wrecks peoples minds. So recreational drug use is completely wrong.... If our nation legalizes marijuana, then ecstasy will follow, then heroin will follow, then horribly enough with the slip of things they may even legalize ice, if Jesus is not back yet by then.

By legalizing recreational marijuana use, the government is normalizing it, and then there will be very many more stoners off their head around the streets of Australia, now what is right with that? And the streets would only end up like LA.....

Yes some teens already use drugs, but it's gonna be a lot worse if they legalize it, smoking weed would just blow out into a major trend in nearly every school if not every. The drug dealers would love the normalization of recreational drug use, it would open up their market heaps more.


@Reggie Belafonte

You know after safe schools LGBT education was introduced in Australia, the government can't be trusted in introducing a drug education program to schools......

Why did they ever let the Australian Liberal party fall into the wrong hands....

And the Greens, who do they help? Anti-Christian ain't the only thing about them, as green as they pretend to be, it's also the fact they don't even want to help the farmers, unless of course if they are growing pot...., they live in the city, and want to kick everyone out off the bush and regional areas, they love to control the councils and rake in massive amounts of money, not to mention they aren't good for independent Aussie businesses along with Labor either, and they would even try to push the Aussie population to 2 billion in one day if they could, they are for anything ungodly, corrupt laws, population density, and massive corrupt cities.

For the Americans the Green party in Australia is extreme, Labor party is very far left like the Democrats, and the Australian Liberal party is a left wing version of the Republicans, but are nothing like the Republicans, they are more like a lesser left wing version of the Democrats. There are no good main options. We got a few minor parties that are better, but they only got a small chance at Senate, and almost no chance at Lower house seats, I'm surprised the Shooters and Fishers even got elected in Orange. Bob Katter and maybe 3 or 4 others are literally the last good politicians standing in the Australian Federal parliament.

So that is the political situation at the Federal level in Australia....

 

[bbyrd009]

Oh well, then sorry for my misunderstanding on your position on stuff. It's just the way you reply sometimes, it makes me wonder why would you reply like that, but maybe you are just being sarcastic, I don't know. You are a mystery sometimes....

yes, i am possessed by sarcasm, funny you mention that, as it is what i am working on now. apparently. My position on pot is really more about hemp to me, and as far as recreational pot goes my position is that we have taken Jefferson's bowl of hemp on the porch and turned it into something quite different, but at the same time we get Charlotte's Web, the strain that helps certain ppl.

i have invoked Buddha in the past, yes, but that is bc they know something valuable that we do not imo. Ritual Buddhism i have no use for myself tbh.

 

[Triumph1300]

For the Americans the Green party in Australia is extreme

As far as I'm concerned all Green parties are extreme.
Makes no difference where they are.
It's an world wide extremist movement.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

I find the recreational use of drugs is very wrong, it's opening up the door for Satan to play tricks on your mind, same with drunkeness. When you hallucinate what do you see? It opens up the supernatural in the wrong way, and what you actually see is demons. Don't listen to scientists saying "oh it's only the cycle of the brain." No it's not, it's much more. Same with getting high, again it opens up the door for Satan, and causes you to go off your face. Marijuana also wrecks peoples minds. So recreational drug use is completely wrong.... If our nation legalizes marijuana, then ecstasy will follow, then heroin will follow, then horribly enough with the slip of things they may even legalize ice, if Jesus is not back yet by then.

By legalizing recreational marijuana use, the government is normalizing it, and then there will be very many more stoners off their head around the streets of Australia, now what is right with that? And the streets would only end up like LA.....

Yes some teens already use drugs, but it's gonna be a lot worse if they legalize it, smoking weed would just blow out into a major trend in nearly every school if not every. The drug dealers would love the normalization of recreational drug use, it would open up their market heaps more.


@Reggie Belafonte

You know after safe schools LGBT education was introduced in Australia, the government can't be trusted in introducing a drug education program to schools......

Why did they ever let the Australian Liberal party fall into the wrong hands....

And the Greens, who do they help? Anti-Christian ain't the only thing about them, as green as they pretend to be, it's also the fact they don't even want to help the farmers, unless of course if they are growing pot...., they live in the city, and want to kick everyone out off the bush and regional areas, they love to control the councils and rake in massive amounts of money, not to mention they aren't good for independent Aussie businesses along with Labor either, and they would even try to push the Aussie population to 2 billion in one day if they could, they are for anything ungodly, corrupt laws, population density, and massive corrupt cities.

For the Americans the Green party in Australia is extreme, Labor party is very far left like the Democrats, and the Australian Liberal party is a left wing version of the Republicans, but are nothing like the Republicans, they are more like a lesser left wing version of the Democrats. There are no good main options. We got a few minor parties that are better, but they only got a small chance at Senate, and almost no chance at Lower house seats, I'm surprised the Shooters and Fishers even got elected in Orange. Bob Katter and maybe 3 or 4 others are literally the last good politicians standing in the Australian Federal parliament.

So that is the political situation at the Federal level in Australia....

Well I am a member in Cory Bernardi Conservative party, I was a Liberal National once and agree with the concept of a Labour party to represent the wage earner but the big problem with them is they are Socialist and very criminal intent controlling type of backward Satanist, they come across claiming to be for the wage workers but that's just the game play and sure they have done well in regards to a lot people, that would have being treated like crap with pay and conditions by the stuck up liberal party toffs, but the problems them both cause is very bad as well for the Nations health in the long run.
But the Liberal party and Labor party are at their roots a team that look after each other to play off any opposition to both their total control over the nation, no one other party is allowed in as they will only work to destroy them and the media is in their pocket full on, just look at the money that the media make out of them, the whole thing it totally corrupt and when one can see it for what it truly is, then one can see the corruption is way out of hand now so that there is no hope at all to control it.
We have many people who have come from both party's that can see it for what it is and have been in them party's all their lives and have now jumped ship.

Why did they let the Liberal party ? a lot of them people live in another world and they can't see it or don't want to see it but as long as they look up to the money gods, that's all they worship, so such is a pox much like Political Correctness is, because it's not seen for what it truly is, a total Whore that will only destroy people body and soul, problem is most people do not see it truly for what it is, it looks good comes across as nice and foolish dolts desire it, but just like a whore all will reap what you sow in dealing with that trash, because it becomes a pox on the whole Nation, because they who drink of it and we will all cop the wrath that will come out of it all.
It's just Sodomites who rule over us now it's a fact and all government jobs are all controlled by Sodomites even the ADF is totally controlled by that mob now in all the top ranks.
Bestiality is coming next and you could marry your dog and you never see the NWO or Political Correctness mob not pushing against that but push total acceptance of it all and they will come down against you if you object, just like they do with the Safe Schools brainwashing madness, you try to tell a school kid that what they are being indoctrinated with is madness and they will fly off the handle at you claiming that the schools indoctrination is correct and must be enforced 100% and anyone who stands in the way of that becomes an enemy number one.
I am old enough to know how the Nazis worked their Socialist trash on the people not to mention the school kids and all, I heard all about it all first hand from people who lived it and the same with them who lived under communism and I see many come to the party room and warn all who will listen and it all sticks out like dogs balls to them.
But I am sure that we will become a modern day new age Socialist Nazi Communist world order madness that will kill billions of people and make Hitler look like a choir boy, there is no hope for a Godless people as they will reap what they sow.
If a Nation does not have a handle on Sin they have no hope at all because anything that they will try to do will be totally worthless.

Problem is that at the end of the day, it's because that their is not truly a man amongst them in the lib and alp and if they did speak out they would be ridiculed no end.

When Cory Bernardi put the question to the liberal leaders about bestiality some years ago they came at him slandering him full on about the question, because fact is they did not have an answer to it, that would cut it with the people and then the ALP was Shorten was in a fit of rage with Cory making school yard bully brat remarks like a mongrel dog wanting to get off the leash at him.
Fact is if they had any leadership quality's about them they would of explained

 

[Phoneman777]

A whole state seceding would be illegal I believe. Secession was made illegal after the War between the States. The dividing up of a State into other states is still legal, and can be used as secession by those wanting to secede. Just like I spoke earlier about sanctuary cities or counties. That too is a form of secession and since it is being allowed, a precedent has been established, and we as conservatives can use it also. Which we should.

I understand your hostility towards the liberal atheistic left. I have it also. But, war is, or should be, the last resort or result. I say 'result' because I firmly believe that if nothing is done war will come. It is actually feasible for a state to divide and each state create its own government and structure it to be conservative or liberal or whatever it wants, and still agree to remain in the U.S. This could be done peaceably and thus people could gravitate toward the state or local government of their choosing.

The Federal government would have to relinquish some of its control over these states and allow for their form of governing themselves. But, as I said, they already are doing that with sanctuary cities. Thus a precedent has been set. I believe this could be done peaceably without a total upheaval that war creates.

Of course this can be done only if people are wanting peace and can come to agreements and work out solutions. The liberal left have shown that they are not so willing. In other words, if the shoe was on the other foot and liberals controlled the White House, the Senate, the House, and certain conservative cities established themselves as sanctuary cities for conservative reasons, these same liberals would be crying for blood against such traitors to our 'glorious union'. They like the 'sanctuary' when it is their 'sanctuary'.

Then once the liberals see the natural divisions taking place, they will scream like a squashed cat. So, though I think it could be done peaceably, I don't think the liberals or Federal government will allow it.

Stranger

Of course, I was being facetious. But, it's difficult to be patient with Liberals. Liberalism is satanic, for it is control freakism par excellance. Liberals want to compel others to do everything down to the minutest detail in their lives, while Jesus merely invites us to render Him service.

 

[Stranger]

Of course, I was being facetious. But, it's difficult to be patient with Liberals. Liberalism is satanic, for it is control freakism par excellance. Liberals want to compel others to do everything down to the minutest detail in their lives, while Jesus merely invites us to render Him service.

I agree. Liberalism in this country is straight out of hell. It is based on the goodness of man and does not recognize the God of the Bible. Which is why your liberal states are so anti-Christian.

Stranger

 

[Phoneman777]

I agree. Liberalism in this country is straight out of hell. It is based on the goodness of man and does not recognize the God of the Bible. Which is why your liberal states are so anti-Christian.

Stranger

Yep. What can you say about a mindset that leads people to deliberately seek services from a private Christian business which they know are unable to conscientiously provide, then bring lawsuits against them and destroy them? And yet, there are people here who throw around the "h" word at conservatives as freely as Obama phone applications at EveryTrafficIntersection, USA.

 

[Stranger]

Yep. What can you say about a mindset that leads people to deliberately seek services from a private Christian business which they know are unable to conscientiously provide, then bring lawsuits against them and destroy them? And yet, there are people here who throw around the "h" word at conservatives as freely as Obama phone applications at EveryTrafficIntersection, USA.

I agree. Make no mistake. The liberals hate the conservatives. They have shown that in their treatment of conservatives during rallies and protests. Conservatives are identified as 'deplorables'. If you voted the wrong way you are hated as a deplorable. They are willing to kill rather than be under a conservative government.

As I have said, the divisions are too great in this country to overcome. Some sort of secession must take place.

Stranger

 

[Phoneman777]

I agree. Make no mistake. The liberals hate the conservatives. They have shown that in their treatment of conservatives during rallies and protests. Conservatives are identified as 'deplorables'. If you voted the wrong way you are hated as a deplorable. They are willing to kill rather than be under a conservative government.

As I have said, the divisions are too great in this country to overcome. Some sort of secession must take place.

Stranger

It's with the same Satanic hatred that the Jewish leaders had for Jesus that modern day Liberals hate Conservative. Just what did Jesus do that was so wrong? He spoke words of hope and life, He set the captives free from false doctrine and sin into a life of love and faithfulness to a loving God, He fed the hungry, helped the unfortunate, healed the sick, raised the dead, and more importantly He loved His enemies...and for His trouble, they had Him arrested on trumped up charges, brought forth lying witnesses, falsely misrepresented His pure motives and true words, rejected His holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners character for a murderous insurrectionist, and finally had Him nailed to a Cross. They'd do the same if given the opportunity.

 

[Josho]

Well I am a member in Cory Bernardi Conservative party, I was a Liberal National once and agree with the concept of a Labour party to represent the wage earner but the big problem with them is they are Socialist and very criminal intent controlling type of backward Satanist, they come across claiming to be for the wage workers but that's just the game play and sure they have done well in regards to a lot people, that would have being treated like crap with pay and conditions by the stuck up liberal party toffs, but the problems them both cause is very bad as well for the Nations health in the long run.
But the Liberal party and Labor party are at their roots a team that look after each other to play off any opposition to both their total control over the nation, no one other party is allowed in as they will only work to destroy them and the media is in their pocket full on, just look at the money that the media make out of them, the whole thing it totally corrupt and when one can see it for what it truly is, then one can see the corruption is way out of hand now so that there is no hope at all to control it.
We have many people who have come from both party's that can see it for what it is and have been in them party's all their lives and have now jumped ship.

Why did they let the Liberal party ? a lot of them people live in another world and they can't see it or don't want to see it but as long as they look up to the money gods, that's all they worship, so such is a pox much like Political Correctness is, because it's not seen for what it truly is, a total Whore that will only destroy people body and soul, problem is most people do not see it truly for what it is, it looks good comes across as nice and foolish dolts desire it, but just like a whore all will reap what you sow in dealing with that trash, because it becomes a pox on the whole Nation, because they who drink of it and we will all cop the wrath that will come out of it all.
It's just Sodomites who rule over us now it's a fact and all government jobs are all controlled by Sodomites even the ADF is totally controlled by that mob now in all the top ranks.
Bestiality is coming next and you could marry your dog and you never see the NWO or Political Correctness mob not pushing against that but push total acceptance of it all and they will come down against you if you object, just like they do with the Safe Schools brainwashing madness, you try to tell a school kid that what they are being indoctrinated with is madness and they will fly off the handle at you claiming that the schools indoctrination is correct and must be enforced 100% and anyone who stands in the way of that becomes an enemy number one.
I am old enough to know how the Nazis worked their Socialist trash on the people not to mention the school kids and all, I heard all about it all first hand from people who lived it and the same with them who lived under communism and I see many come to the party room and warn all who will listen and it all sticks out like dogs balls to them.
But I am sure that we will become a modern day new age Socialist Nazi Communist world order madness that will kill billions of people and make Hitler look like a choir boy, there is no hope for a Godless people as they will reap what they sow.
If a Nation does not have a handle on Sin they have no hope at all because anything that they will try to do will be totally worthless.

Problem is that at the end of the day, it's because that their is not truly a man amongst them in the lib and alp and if they did speak out they would be ridiculed no end.

When Cory Bernardi put the question to the liberal leaders about bestiality some years ago they came at him slandering him full on about the question, because fact is they did not have an answer to it, that would cut it with the people and then the ALP was Shorten was in a fit of rage with Cory making school yard bully brat remarks like a mongrel dog wanting to get off the leash at him.
Fact is if they had any leadership quality's about them they would of explained

Just want to put it out there, while I believe the ungodly world is gonna get worst as the end times go on, I don't believe every government member is some top level free mason, the number of top level free masons are low, there are too many dead works to reach 33rd level, and free masonry is a dying cult, so free masonry is not the main cause, as they have little influence, but I believe it's the world in general drifting further and further away from God, and finding more ways to sin and go against Jesus, which includes everyone who is against Christ, a big majority of them are atheists, then there are the false religions and cults, and then there are witches, new agers, black magicians, psychics, satanists, all sorts who are involved in practicing witchcraft, deception by Satan is the main cause.

At the moment I believe the big majority of our government are listening to the wrong voices, while many of the Aussie politicians might say they are Catholic or Christian or whatever, very few of them are born again in the Spirit, and very few of them would read their Bible daily or even weekly or monthly, most of them would have their Bibles gathering dust, and those of them who go to Church, most of them would rely on the Priest to read one verse out of the Bible to them anyway, and the Priest would be following what ever religious procedure they have to follow, most of the Aussie "Christian and Catholic politicians", they aren't free or born again in the Holy Spirit, so what we see in our government is not lively Christianity, as if they were lively in Christ, they wouldn't be marching in the mardi gras and putting through the immoral garbage they put through, they would be speaking of the liveliness of Jesus and His power, His wonders, His miracles, the gifts of the Holy Spirit, but unfortunately most of them are the sleeping brand of Christianity and they are more alive to world than God and would rather please the world than God, they rather listen to what some celebrity has to say than what the Bible has to say, they rather listen to a homosexual or an abortionist spreading a lie than what God has to say. If they get asked about their faith, most of them would say "I'm a Christian or I'm a Catholic" and that's about it.... It's sad, but's the main weak brand of Christianity we see in Australia, and they are just giving it away to the non-believers.

We need more of the lively active Christianity in Australia, and no I don't mean more of the $700 conferences, stage shows and fame-seeking brand of Christianity, but we need more of those who are really born again, for the flame to be re-ignited, for them to rise, we need those who are alive in the Holy Spirit, who are on fire for Holy Spirit, who are deep in the Holy Spirit, we need those who are really for Christ, and have the miracles, prophesies, signs and wonders to follow, and those who are the powerful prayer warriors, whether it be in the fields or the prayer closet. We may not break the trend of the world, but still more can come to Jesus, more can move past the step of being born again to a deeper closer friendship and relationship with Jesus, more could look to Jesus, more could spend more time with Jesus, more can experience a lot more in Christ, like the spiritual gifts the Holy Spirit has to offer and much more. And that is the lively brand of Christianity we need more of in Australia.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

It's with the same Satanic hatred that the Jewish leaders had for Jesus that modern day Liberals hate Conservative. Just what did Jesus do that was so wrong? He spoke words of hope and life, He set the captives free from false doctrine and sin into a life of love and faithfulness to a loving God, He fed the hungry, helped the unfortunate, healed the sick, raised the dead, and more importantly He loved His enemies...and for His trouble, they had Him arrested on trumped up charges, brought forth lying witnesses, falsely misrepresented His pure motives and true words, rejected His holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners character for a murderous insurrectionist, and finally had Him nailed to a Cross. They'd do the same if given the opportunity.

It's because their Soul is sick or dead and they are being lead by the works of ego driven mania that such idolises, they claim that they are far superior, a new breed of man that has evolved and that all before them are or were just primitive apes.
They have been indoctrinated in this nonsense their whole life's at schools, I have talked to many of such people, even one claims his autistic kid to be a new more evolved state of man and recons this is the future of hope for the world.
Jesus said they know not what they do. well it's because they are lost.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Just want to put it out there, while I believe the ungodly world is gonna get worst as the end times go on, I don't believe every government member is some top level free mason, the number of top level free masons are low, there are too many dead works to reach 33rd level, and free masonry is a dying cult, so free masonry is not the main cause, as they have little influence, but I believe it's the world in general drifting further and further away from God, and finding more ways to sin and go against Jesus, which includes everyone who is against Christ, a big majority of them are atheists, then there are the false religions and cults, and then there are witches, new agers, black magicians, psychics, satanists, all sorts who are involved in practicing witchcraft, deception by Satan is the main cause.

At the moment I believe the big majority of our government are listening to the wrong voices, while many of the Aussie politicians might say they are Catholic or Christian or whatever, very few of them are born again in the Spirit, and very few of them would read their Bible daily or even weekly or monthly, most of them would have their Bibles gathering dust, and those of them who go to Church, most of them would rely on the Priest to read one verse out of the Bible to them anyway, and the Priest would be following what ever religious procedure they have to follow, most of the Aussie "Christian and Catholic politicians", they aren't free or born again in the Holy Spirit, so what we see in our government is not lively Christianity, as if they were lively in Christ, they wouldn't be marching in the mardi gras and putting through the immoral garbage they put through, they would be speaking of the liveliness of Jesus and His power, His wonders, His miracles, the gifts of the Holy Spirit, but unfortunately most of them are the sleeping brand of Christianity and they are more alive to world than God and would rather please the world than God, they rather listen to what some celebrity has to say than what the Bible has to say, they rather listen to a homosexual or an abortionist spreading a lie than what God has to say. If they get asked about their faith, most of them would say "I'm a Christian or I'm a Catholic" and that's about it.... It's sad, but's the main weak brand of Christianity we see in Australia, and they are just giving it away to the non-believers.

We need more of the lively active Christianity in Australia, and no I don't mean more of the $700 conferences, stage shows and fame-seeking brand of Christianity, but we need more of those who are really born again, for the flame to be re-ignited, for them to rise, we need those who are alive in the Holy Spirit, who are on fire for Holy Spirit, who are deep in the Holy Spirit, we need those who are really for Christ, and have the miracles, prophesies, signs and wonders to follow, and those who are the powerful prayer warriors, whether it be in the fields or the prayer closet. We may not break the trend of the world, but still more can come to Jesus, more can move past the step of being born again to a deeper closer friendship and relationship with Jesus, more could look to Jesus, more could spend more time with Jesus, more can experience a lot more in Christ, like the spiritual gifts the Holy Spirit has to offer and much more. And that is the lively brand of Christianity we need more of in Australia.

I totally agree with you on all that.
I know two Freemasons well for many years and are great people who I have a lot of respect for them personally as a friend, but non of them are born again, they are Christians.
But they are led astray by the workings of Freemasonry, It's a mans works game and they do a lot of good in that line for sure. one thing for sure they sure do love money.
I can't stand the secretive side of it all, as I despise that totally as a working of Satan for sure, what's the big deal with all this secret nonsense anyway ? it just makes one out to be a moron.
Kids ask their dad a question anything to do about freemasons and are just cast aside like a nigger, you don't have any rights to ask at all, but just shut up and support all this secretive crap totally.
Then I question the son about his dads freemasonry because he is bagging the RCC full on as being a totally evil organisation and I say hang on the RCC do not have a secretive organisation like your Freemasons do, I can go ask about anything I want and will not be grabbed and tossed out or bashed for asking questions. but I am sure secretive people are in the RCC and that sticks out like dogs balls, like the Jesuits and all the Sodomite priest who have been covered up for to the hilt for years.
Were you have secretive organisations you have supportive corruption for sure.
Our RCC here in Australia is guilty of aiding and abetting Sodomy within the church just as it is with all the others.
I am sure their are Priest that would stand against Sodomy but their is a system that they must of feared.

 

[Copperhead]

The state of California has said groups can seek signatures to show they are serious about secession. It is not 'sanctuary' labeled anymore. It is secession.

Secession or war is inevitable in the U.S. Choose and prepare now for what will become reality in not to distant future.

Stranger

Well, Jefferson and Madison, writers of the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution respectively, felt that if the created Federal Government became too over powering, that a state could leave the union if it so desired.

The only example of it happening resulted in a war between the states started by the states that did not secede. There is no law in place that forbids secession.

As it pertains to California, one can only hope that they do secede. As one who works in the transportation industry, I determined that at the end of the last century, no truck I owned would haul freight in or out of California. The regulatory extremes of California regarding the transportation sector just doesn't make it worth it to me.

 

[Stranger]

Well, Jefferson and Madison, writers of the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution respectively, felt that if the created Federal Government became too over powering, that a state could leave the union if it so desired.

The only example of it happening resulted in a war between the states started by the states that did not secede. There is no law in place that forbids secession.

As it pertains to California, one can only hope that they do secede. As one who works in the transportation industry, I determined that at the end of the last century, no truck I owned would haul freight in or out of California. The regulatory extremes of California regarding the transportation sector just doesn't make it worth it to me.

I believe they use the 14th amendment passed during the reconstruction period as law against secession. "No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privilages or immunities of citizens of the United States."

I am all for secession of a State, I just don't think they would allow it. It will have to come under a different title such as 'sanctuary State'. But if they do allow it I am all for it. Either it or something like it must happen else there will be war.

Stranger

 

[Philip James]

he is a freemason and a Jesuit Catholic that works against Christianity for the NWO

Hi there,
He cant be both... If he is a mason he is automatically excomunicated from the Church.
He may be a mason who lies and says he is a Jesuit.. But he cannot be a Jesuit and a mason...

 

[Truth7t7]

The state of California has said groups can seek signatures to show they are serious about secession. It is not 'sanctuary' labeled anymore. It is secession.

Secession or war is inevitable in the U.S. Choose and prepare now for what will become reality in not to distant future.

Stranger

400 billion in debt, California would sink in the sea like Jimmy Hoffa with cement boots on.

I live in California, they will never get a majority vote on secession.

There is a Liberal bias that is clanging a silent symbol.

2008 proposition 8 was approved to ban same sex marriage in the Liberal State 52/47, and you think they are going to notch it up with Secession, smiles.

Sounds like sour grapes, as the US Attorney General Jeff Sessions is pulling California into Federal Court over the immigration violations, and impeding federal law enforcement.