Calvinism Debunked by the Word of God!! 1 Timothy 2:4 God=
Who will have "all" men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
Who will have "all" men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
Calvinism Debunked by the Word of God!!
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Waiting on him
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Yes!! Some try to say there some people that are doomed for hell no matter what they think, belief, say or do== a demon inspired idea from the pit of hell!
The Bible does in fact teach that predestination is according to the predetermined purpose of God...after the counsel of his own will (Ephesians 1:11 (kjv)).
Eph 1:11, In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:
Eph 1:11, In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:
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Who would say that God creates some people that are doomed for hell no matter what they think, believe, say or do== a demon inspired idea from the pit of hell!
Behold
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Did Jesus die only for some? Or is John 3:16 true?
Imagine this conversation.
Jesus says....>"you mean im NOT dying for everyone?
Aren't you glad that conversation never happened...
Apparently, false teachers who teach grace as a license for sin, or turn the grace of our God into lasciviousness...their condemnation was marked out long ago...they were ordained to this condemnation. Jude 1:3-4 (kjv, NASB).
kjv:
Jde 1:3, Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
Jde 1:4, For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
NASB:
Jde 1:3, Beloved, while I was making every effort to write you about our common salvation, I felt the necessity to write to you appealing that you contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all handed down to the
Jde 1:4, For certain persons have crept in unnoticed, those who were long beforehand marked out for this condemnation, ungodly persons who turn the grace of our God into licentiousness and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.
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Behold
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Let me show you something that you've not seen before.
You said this...."that turn the grace of God into lasciviousness."
But you do not understand Jude 1, and you have actually flipped the meaning.
Here is what Jude is explaining... "we are to contend for the faith'.. as given by Jesus to Paul..= "Justification by faith"....as there are deceivers who teach the gospel of works, who teach that you can lose your salvation. And they deceive people by teaching them that the Grace of God that is freely given, understood correctly as "The GIFT of Salvation".....these liars twist the Grace of God and subvert it, and replace it with "works to stay saved".
And how do they deceive people into believing that you are to keep yourself saved, instead of trusting in Christ to keep you saved?
They teach the devil's lie, that Grace is License. They corrupt the idea of Grace into a false idea that the Gift of Salvation, is not a gift, its instead a "license to sin".
They redefine Grace as "license", and in this way, they subvert the Gospel of the Grace of God, and deceive many.
These people that do this, are Galatians 1:8 and Titus 3:10
I'm in agreement with some of your premise.
However, the clear teaching of this scripture is that these false teachers teach that grace is a license for sin, not only to subvert real concepts of grace, but in order to give people the concept that they can sin and there will be no consequences for it; when in Hebrews 12:5-11 it becomes clear that there will be chastening from the Lord for such a thing.
By teaching that real salvation does not lead to a changed life but that you can sin all you want and get away with it, they bring condemnation to their own lives because they are teaching people to sin.
The reality is that as believers in Christ, we are no longer under the law (Romans 6:14), are dead to the law (Romans 7:4, Galatians 2:19) and are delivered from the law (Romans 7:6); but that this doesn't mean that we are not governed by the law as it is written on fleshy tables of human hearts (Hebrews 8:8-10, Hebrews 10:16; 2 Corinthians 3:3 (kjv)). This can only mean that there is no condemnation from the law for those who are truly born again; who have become new creatures in Christ.
If I blow it, I am still declared righteous because the Lord justifieth the ungodly (Romans 4:5). This is my identity in Christ. But if you know that you are righteous and that this is your identity even if you blow it, now go and live according to your new identity of righteousness (1 John 3:7).
There is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus; and these are defined as those who have the Spirit and who therefore walk according to the Spirit (not according to the flesh).
What this means is that the devil's ordinary tactic of condemning us is going to utterly fail against those of us who have these truths.
We who are born again know that it is the desire of our born again nature that we not commit sin.
Therefore if we do sin, the fact that the law no longer applies to us means that the enemy cannot condemn us.
For those who are not born again and who would take such teaching as a license for sin, let them know that if they do so it is because they are not born again.
And therefore within this teaching we find that if a man sins out of a license mentality, he is not born again and therefore condemned.
But if he he knows that he is born again and sins, there is no condemnation because his general life is that of holiness and therefore his blowing of it is not condemnation for him because it is clear that he has a born again nature.
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