Calvinism

[John Caldwell]

difference is all in who gets the glory.

God gets the glory.

 

[Anthony D'Arienzo]

No Calvinist here has been able to defend their view with Scripture (with what is written). All we get is "that's not how good theology is done".

The Calvinists here have only succeeded in regurgitating their same worn out theology and unrelated passages in an attempt to conceal their inability.

You have tried and failed against every one of us because you have ungodly motives. Every one of these brothers can correct your errors. Your failure to welcome truth is your carnal pride and excessive hubris on display.
Steve Owen has been patient with you and you give him snide remarks as if he does not read his bible more than commentaries. The thing you recently complained about is the thing you projected on him.
you post your opposition and your verses and we will see who answers with scripture. Now that you have been exposed and your true agenda comes forth it will be easier to get right to it.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

You might as well be a slobbering it in a wheelchair with God pushing you around.

John 21:17-18 He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep. [18] Verily, verily, I say unto thee, When thou wast young, thou girdedst thyself, and walkedst whither thou wouldest: but when thou shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee, and carry thee whither thou wouldest not.

“...thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee, and carry thee whither thou wouldest not.”

Do you know who is “the another will gird thee, and carry you where you would not.” As opposed to “you girded yourself, and walked where you wouldest.”

Not wheelchairs...the Spirit. Even Christ said the flesh is weak but the Spirit is willing. Free will...what good is it; if not to claim something for yourself? Which goes against: whatsoever you ask for in His Name ...for His Namesake.

 

[John Caldwell]

You have tried and failed against every one of us because you have ungodly motives. Every one of these brothers can correct your errors. Your failure to welcome truth is your carnal pride and excessive hubris on display.
Steve Owen has been patient with you and you give him snide remarks as if he does not read his bible more than commentaries. The thing you recently complained about is the thing you projected on him.
you post your opposition and your verses and we will see who answers with scripture. Now that you have been exposed and your true agenda comes forth it will be easier to get right to it.

Do you believe Calvinism is the gospel?

Do you believe "foreknowledge" has a "biblical meaning"?

Do you believe the Early Church Fathers taught Calvinism?

 

[VictoryinJesus]

That is all wrong. And your thinking that is the best plan God could come up with? He was nailed on a cross for that plan? Why would He let his Son be nailed to a the cross for such a sad and pathetic plan....You are believing in a horror flick. Entity come to the world and everyone walk around like robots. Of course it is worse than that, the entity tortures some forever. How does this add up in your head.

He is creating New Creatures.

 

[Grailhunter]

John 21:17-18 He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep. [18] Verily, verily, I say unto thee, When thou wast young, thou girdedst thyself, and walkedst whither thou wouldest: but when thou shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee, and carry thee whither thou wouldest not.

“...thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee, and carry thee whither thou wouldest not.”

Do you know who is “the another will gird thee, and carry you where you would not.” As opposed to “you girded yourself, and walked where you wouldest.”

Not wheelchairs...the Spirit. Even Christ said the flesh is weak but the Spirit is willing. Free will...what good is it; if not to claim something for yourself? Which goes against: whatsoever you ask for in His Name ...for His Namesake.

An it. If He made you a puppet here, what is to say you are not a puppet in heaven. Again horror flick.

 

[Grailhunter]

He is creating New Creatures.

New its?

 

[Waiting on him]

He is creating New Creatures.

Psalm 19:2-5 KJV
[2] Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge. [3] There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard. [4] Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun, [5] Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.
Some are confused as to who’s running the race.

Tecarta Bible

 

[Waiting on him]

An it. If He made you a puppet here, what is to say you are not a puppet in heaven. Again horror flick.

I guess a vessel could be called an it.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

An it. If He made you a puppet here, what is to say you are not a puppet in heaven. Again horror flick.

Isn’t that what His most beautiful creature said and all the others that left their first estate. It is not enough. We want more. Free will or the Fathers will which supersedes all things which come to an end...is there a choice?

 

[Anthony D'Arienzo]

John Caldwell,

A Calvinist understands predestination in salvation along the lines expressed in the Canons of Dort. But to a Calvinist this is soteriology.

A Hyper-Calvinist holds Calvinism as the gospel. To him it is his religion.

This is your own twisted definition. AHyper calvinist is a supralapsarian who does not believe in missions.

A Hyper-Calvinist rejects traditional hermeneutics because it makes God subject to a dictionary. Instead he assigns "biblical meanings" to words (liberal hermeneutics).

That has nothing to do with hyper Calvinism. It is your hatred and ignorance oozing forth as pus from a pimple.
You seem to think we are bound by your erroneous definitions. You cannot grasp the biblical usage . That is why you are infested with error. Where there is life there is hope. Maybe truth will come your way, if you do not attack Christian brothers.
Not one of these men you despise is a liar. you have not undeleted those posts where you falsely lied about me.
You hide your posts because you have things to hide.
We post openly having nothing to hide. We are open to biblical correction unlike you.

[QUOTE]A Hyper-Calvinist believes it is not necessary to base essential belief on what is written but instead believes "good theology" is what they find implied in Scripture.[/QUOTE]
Your jaudiced eye cannot find truth....we will continue to offer you correction.

John Piper is a Calvinist. J.I. Packer is a Calvinist. D.A. Carson is a Calvinist. You are, by definition, a Hyper-Calvinists.

You are by definition a liar who bears false witness, who needs to repent. You denied you have an agenda, but the cat is out of the bag. You lied repeatedly claiming your were a Calvinist, to disguise your true intentions.
We all see it John...give it up.

 

[Waiting on him]

God gets the glory.

John 1:13 KJV
[13] Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Something else to go with the question I asked you earlier. That you haven’t answered
Tecarta Bible

 

[Waiting on him]

Isn’t that what His most beautiful creature said and all the others that left their first estate. It is not enough. We want more. Free will or the Fathers will which supersedes all things which come to an end...is there a choice?

Excellent.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

New its?

is submission to the hand that formed you ugly? To finally do what you were before ordained to do...instead of pushing against Him who can’t be moved?

 

[Waiting on him]

is submission to the hand that formed you ugly? To finally do what you were before ordained to do...instead of pushing against Him who can’t be moved?

Blessed is he who is not offended in me

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Blessed is he who is not offended in me

As John sat in a prison waiting for head to be removed. Free will is overrated.

 

[John Caldwell]

This is your own twisted definition. AHyper calvinist is a supralapsarian who does not believe in missions..

LOL...you really have no clue, do you.

The anti-missions movement was one result of hyper-Calvinism. The issue was not only in England (R.B.C. Howell combated it here).
Calvin and Beza held the traditional Calvinistic view (supralapsarianism). The anti-missions movement was largely reactionary.

 

[Waiting on him]

As John sat in a prison waiting for head to be removed. Free will is overrated.

It ok he got a new head.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

New its?

The only reason for free will is to surrender it to Him.

 

[Grailhunter]

is submission to the hand that formed you ugly? To finally do what you were before ordained to do...instead of pushing against Him who can’t be moved?

You are still selling God short. You say that is the best plan a God could think of....having its on earth and in heaven.
What would be the point....Does He eat popcorn while He watches the puppet show...does he change the channel and watch those screaming in hell?