Can a tare become saved?

[jeffweeder]

And you are an Amil that is on record agreeing that the tares can't mean the lost in general.

When did I post that?

This is what the Lord posted,

Matt 13
36 Then He left the crowds and went into the house. And His disciples came to Him saying, “Explain [clearly] to us the parable of the weeds in the field.”
37 He answered, “The one who sows the good seed is the Son of Man, 38 and the field is the world; and [as for] the good seed, these are the sons of the kingdom; and the weeds are the sons of the evil one; 39 and the enemy who sowed them is the devil, and the harvest is the end of the age; and the reapers are angels.

40 So just as the weeds are gathered up and burned in the fire, so will it be at the end of the age. 41 The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend [those things by which people are led into sin], and all who practice evil [leading others into sin], 42 and will throw them into the furnace of fire; in that place there will be weeping [over sorrow and pain] and grinding of teeth [over distress and anger]. 43 Then the righteous [those who seek the will of God] will shine forth [radiating the new life] like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears [to hear], let him hear and heed My words.

 

[Davidpt]

When did I post that?

This is what the Lord posted,

Matt 13
36 Then He left the crowds and went into the house. And His disciples came to Him saying, “Explain [clearly] to us the parable of the weeds in the field.”
37 He answered, “The one who sows the good seed is the Son of Man, 38 and the field is the world; and [as for] the good seed, these are the sons of the kingdom; and the weeds are the sons of the evil one; 39 and the enemy who sowed them is the devil, and the harvest is the end of the age; and the reapers are angels.

40 So just as the weeds are gathered up and burned in the fire, so will it be at the end of the age. 41 The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend [those things by which people are led into sin], and all who practice evil [leading others into sin], 42 and will throw them into the furnace of fire; in that place there will be weeping [over sorrow and pain] and grinding of teeth [over distress and anger]. 43 Then the righteous [those who seek the will of God] will shine forth [radiating the new life] like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears [to hear], let him hear and heed My words.

Read Post #539 again. You posted that according to my browser. What you were responding to at the time is what you have quoted by @grafted branch having asked. Meaning this---So I’m asking a simple question, can a tare become saved? That's what my browser indicates you were replying to in particular.

You then answered that question with this---No.
Tares are a result of satan's seed, not the saving words of the Lord.

You can't say 'no' if you really mean 'yes'. And you clearly said 'no' not 'yes', to this question being asked that you quoted in particular---So I’m asking a simple question, can a tare become saved?

Maybe it's my browser and that you quoted more than my browser indicates you quoted pertaining to @grafted branch post you were addressing? My browser shows that you only quoted this part--So I’m asking a simple question, can a tare become saved?

And that you then answered that with this part---No.
Tares are a result of satan's seed, not the saving words of the Lord.

Matt 13
27 The servants of the owner came to him and said, ‘Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? Then how does it have weeds in it?’

 

[jeffweeder]

You can't say 'no' if you really mean 'yes'. And you clearly said 'no' not 'yes', to this question being asked that you quoted in particular---So I’m asking a simple question, can a tare become saved?

What makes you think that I am saying yes?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

The tares get separated during Christ's return at the end of this age and is meaning the sheep and goats judgment. And that the sheep and goats judgment and the great white throne judgment are not the same judgment, in my view. For one, nowhere in Revelation 20:12-14 does it give the impression the saved are lined up on the right, the lost on the left, and that all of the saved and all of the lost are answering Jesus in the same manner.

Matthew 25:37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

Matthew 25:44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

Examples that prove who the sheep represent and who the tares represent, they all answer Jesus in the same manner. Which then contradicts the following if the following is also meaning the sheep and goats judgment.

and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works(Revelation 20:12)

and they were judged every man according to their works(Revelation 20:13)

Are some going to argue that not one single person that gets cast into the LOF never helped feed and clothe the poor, for instance? Keeping in mind that the ones who did that per the sheep and goats judgment were the sheep not the goats. And that it is not reasonable that some who cast into the LOF, that not one single one of them ever helped feed and clothe the poor in their lifetime.

But if they did, and surely some did, that would make them the sheep in that case. Therefore, these 2 judgments can't be one and the same and that the sheep and goats is only pertaining to those in the body of Christ, His profitable and unprofitable servants.

Are you aware that literally everyone will appear before the judgment seat of Christ to confess that Jesus is Lord and not just those in the body of Christ?

Romans 14:10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. 11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God. 12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.

Philippians 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

So, the idea that the goats only represent unprofitable servants because they refer to Him as "Lord" the same as the sheep do is not a valid argument because literally all unbelievers, and not just unprofitable servants of Christ, will be confessing that He is Lord and will call Him Lord at the judgment.

As for how to identify the sheep, you seemed to indicate that anyone who helped feed and clothe the poor "would make them the sheep in that case". Remember, the sheep inherit eternal life in the kingdom of God. Does scripture say that we are saved and inherit eternal life by our works of helping the poor? There would be a lot of Christ rejecters and those who oppose God or don't believe in God inheriting eternal life in the kingdom of God if that was the case.

No, scripture says we are saved by grace through faith and not by works (Ephesians 2:8-9). So, you can't say that everyone who has helped the poor is automatically among the sheep on that basis alone.

Notice that Jesus said that anything that is done for the least of these His brethren is done for Him. So, that means He is differentiating between those who love others and help the needy out of their love for Him and desire to serve Him and those who either don't help the needy at all or who do so out of the wrong motivations (trying to make themselves look righteous or trying to earn salvation) instead of out of a humble desire to serve and obey Him.

We are saved by grace through faith and not by our own works of righteousness (Ephesians 2:8-9, Titus 3:5), but once we're saved God has good works prepared for us to do (Ephesians 2:10) which relate to loving others and helping the needy. So, what Matthew 25:31-46 is about is differentiating between those who are saved and belong to Christ and did the good works that God prepared for them and that reflect their faith and those who are not saved and therefore did not do the good works that God only prepares for those who are saved.