they can appear as men with a body as God wills, man is made in the image and likeness of God
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Can angels have sex?
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they can appear as men with a body as God wills, man is made in the image and likeness of God
Intellect and will!
Davy
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It's as Apostle Paul said, the body type of the resurrection is a "spiritual body" (1 Corinthians 15:35-50). And we KNOW for certain, also per Paul, that is NOT a body of flesh and blood (1 Corinthians 15:50). And when Paul declared that all those still alive will be 'changed' on the "last trump", that also is the type of body he was pointing to with that change. Apostle Paul also called that "spiritual body" the "image of the heavenly", and he also said that as we have borne the "image of the earthy", we shall also bear the "image of the heavenly". That is... the image of the angels also.
Davy
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Per Jude 1:6-7, the "sons of God" in Genesis 6 left their original estate, and their own habitation. So their cohabitating with flesh woman, taking wives of them AS WRITTEN THERE IN GENESIS 6, means they mated here ON EARTH, not in Heaven.
Davy
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Study Jude 1:6-7 about their having left their first estate (the heavenly). So somehow the "sons of God" of Genesis 6, when they came to earth and took wives of flesh woman, they took on flesh. Their taking wives didn't happen in Heaven. It happened upon this earth.
To answer this question. I would first have to answer the question of "why the serpent was in the garden of Eden?"...
Davy
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To answer this question. I would first have to answer the question of "why the serpent was in the garden of Eden?"...
You mean why was Satan ("that old serpent") there in God's Eden tempting Eve?
Don't ask me how... the "sons of God" (angels) in Genesis 6 came to earth and took wives of flesh woman, and mated with them. That is beyond my knowledge. Thing is though, I believe God's Word as written there, and it is very plain those angels taking wives of flesh woman is exactly what it is talking about. Regardless of which Bible version one uses, that is still the idea written in all of the Hebrew manuscripts. And it is also what the majority of early Church fathers believed.
You know, in Isaiah 38, God told king Hezekiah that as a sign He would make the sun go backwards ten degrees. Modern science says that's impossible. Yet I believe it happened, as... written. Same thing with Lord Jesus Christ's death and resurrection. Yet some atheists today try to even say there was no man named Jesus of Nazareth that even existed! I wasn't there to see Christ's crucifixion, but I believe His witnesses that were there and wrote about it. And Lord Jesus even said blessed are those who have believed, yet did not witness His 1st coming first hand (John 20:29).
Thus we are not expected to always understand the details of a miraculous event recorded in God's written Word, but we are expected to believe it as written. And I can testify by God's Truth that He shows one of His servants that keeps His Word, often some of the details of those kind of events are shown the believer to confirm their belief.
But if one doubts His Word, particularly those miraculous sounding parts like the Genesis 6 mating of angels with flesh woman, then He won't show that person any more detail, and just let them think whatever they want. And the devil's workers are plentiful out there to twist and turn His Word upside down just so the doubter can have as many other choices that they would want, but those choices just aren't His Truth.
Davy
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You're sounding like an old record, and have not presented Scripture evidence against the Jude 1:6-7 verses, nor the Genesis 6:1-4 verses about the "sons of God" taking wives of the daughters of men, and their mating producing the giant hybrid race (Nephilim).
Davy
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2 Sam 21:20
20 And there was yet a battle in Gath, where was a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four and twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant.
KJV
Deut 3:11
11 (For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of the Rephaim; behold, his bedstead was a bedstead of iron; is it not in Rabbah of the children of Ammon? nine cubits was the length thereof, and four cubits the breadth of it, after the cubit of a man.)
ASV
The Rephaim was a proper name for the giants. A cubit on average is a measure from man's elbow to the finger tips, about 18 to 20 inches. So...
Og's bed was about 9 feet wide by 13 feet long. And why else would the Scripture be written there about Og's bed if its huge size was not representative of Og's great size as a hybrid giant?
Num 13:30-33
30 And Caleb stilleth the people concerning Moses, and saith, 'Let us certainly go up — and we have possessed it; for we are thoroughly able for it.'
31 And the men who have gone up with him said, 'We are not able to go up against the people, for it [is] stronger than we;'
32 and they bring out an evil account of the land which they have spied unto the sons of Israel, saying, 'The land into which we passed over to spy it, is a land eating up its inhabitants; and all the people whom we saw in its midst [are] men of stature;
33 and there we saw the Nephilim, sons of Anak, of the Nephilim; and we are in our own eyes as grasshoppers; and so we were in their eyes.'
YLT
God had told the Israelites back then to go to those lands where those giants lived and destroy them. That is the reason He told the children of Israel to literally wipe out the inhabitants of certain specific nations in the land of Canaan. So when those two Israelites spoke of the Nephilim being in that land, and they felt like grasshoppers in comparison, saying that did not set well with the other's faith in God's commandment.
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quietthinker
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Davy
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And those "sons of God" were ON EARTH when they mated with flesh woman, for those flesh daughters certainly did not go to heaven to mate with them. Use your common sense.
Davy
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Not as a result of the non-sense of angels having sex with earth women
it says they were already giants in the land when men began to marry and multiply
Gen 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
Men of renown does not necessarily mean giants 9 feet tall
Hitler was a man of renown as was churchhill but neither were physical giants
Men of renown does not necessarily mean giants 9 feet tall
Hitler was a man of renown as was churchhill but neither were physical giants
Davy
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Genesis 6 says there were giants in the earth WHEN... the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them...
Gen 6:4
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
KJV
So you need to KEEP TO WHAT THE SCRIPTURE ACTUALLY SAYS, instead of trying to modify it.
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