Can the Bible contain mistakes?

[LoveYeshua]

You may be right

What about Jesus's parables? Didn't He want people to interpret them whenever He gave no interpretation.

The Parable of the Mustard Seed (Matthew 13:31–32; also in Mark and Luke)
The Parable of the Leaven (or Yeast, Matthew 13:33; also in Luke)
The Parable of the Hidden Treasure (Matthew 13:44)
The Parable of the Pearl of Great Price (Matthew 13:45–46)

How do you suggest that every follower of Jesus become of one mind and purpose? Can all these denominations unite?

There is a reason why Jesus gave some teachings in parable.

Matthew 13:10–11
And the disciples came and said to Him, “Why do You speak to them in parables?”
He answered and said to them, “Because it has been given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given.”

Matthew 13:13
“Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand.”

Matthew 13:15
“For the hearts of this people have grown dull. Their ears are hard of hearing, and their eyes they have closed, lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, lest they should understand with their hearts and turn, so that I should heal them.”

Luke 8:10
And He said, “To you it has been given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God, but to the rest it is given in parables, that ‘Seeing they may not see, and hearing they may not understand.’”

 

[Prycejosh1987]

I have read the cover to cover of the bible before. It contains no mistakes. It depends on how we interpret context. We must go to the orignal way the message is protrayed. If there are mistakes its to do with the reformed translation.

 

[One 2 question]

There is a reason why Jesus gave some teachings in parable.

Matthew 13:10–11
And the disciples came and said to Him, “Why do You speak to them in parables?”
He answered and said to them, “Because it has been given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given.”

Matthew 13:13
“Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand.”

Matthew 13:15
“For the hearts of this people have grown dull. Their ears are hard of hearing, and their eyes they have closed, lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, lest they should understand with their hearts and turn, so that I should heal them.”

Luke 8:10
And He said, “To you it has been given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God, but to the rest it is given in parables, that ‘Seeing they may not see, and hearing they may not understand.’”

So we know WHY He gave parables including the ines He didn't interpret. Do you know HOW to interpret them?

 

[One 2 question]

I have read the cover to cover of the bible before. It contains no mistakes. It depends on how we interpret context. We must go to the orignal way the message is protrayed. If there are mistakes its to do with the reformed translation.

Isn't it great that God's word has been given to us by His Spirit. And that He continues to download more and more of God's revealed thoughts to us each day.

I am confident that the Spirit of Christ will not make mistakes when He teaches us hey. No wonder the Spirit through John said, Christ has blessed you with the Holy Spirit. Now the Spirit stays in you, and you don't need any teachers. The Spirit is truthful and teaches you everything. So stay one in your heart with Christ, just as the Spirit has taught you to do.

 

[One 2 question]

If there are mistakes its to do with the reformed translation.

Excuse my ignorance but what is the reformed translation?

 

[Ronald Nolette]

You may be right

What about Jesus's parables? Didn't He want people to interpret them whenever He gave no interpretation.

The Parable of the Mustard Seed (Matthew 13:31–32; also in Mark and Luke)
The Parable of the Leaven (or Yeast, Matthew 13:33; also in Luke)
The Parable of the Hidden Treasure (Matthew 13:44)
The Parable of the Pearl of Great Price (Matthew 13:45–46)

How do you suggest that every follower of Jesus become of one mind and purpose? Can all these denominations unite?

No Jesus did not want us to give our own interpretations to these parables. He defined the usage of the parables and how to understand them in Matthew 13.

We can make many applications of the use of parables like many other verses, but there is only one interpretation.

As long as man is man, there can be no voluntary unification fo the denominations. As for believers, though we may disagree oj points, we are united because of Christ in us.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Just another thought. People say that the bible has been perfectly preserved by God and is trustworthy.

So Human kind -
1. who the Spirit carried along and gave revelations to.
2. who compiled the various bibles with various content
3. who translated them into many languages
5. who make up the members of the many denominations in the world.

If it was God Who preserved His revelations over thousands of years, can't the same God preserve His own people, Israel and Jesus people, the church?

God has preserved His people. He never promised we would not face hardship, just the opposite.

He never said ev ery Jew would be saved nor every one who prays a prayer would be saved.

God works through human kind. If you do the research like I did, you would find the bible has been preserved doctrinal error free in legitimate translations. Translating bring its own set of problems but not doctrinal error.

God protects His Word and if you do linguistic studies of Hebrew?aramaic and Koine Greek you will see that at leat in English ( I speak no other languages so I can't answer for French, Spanish etc.) is error free as far as Doctrine goes.

Once again the only inerrant infallible Scriptures are the original autographas and all faithful copies of the originals in their original languages.

 

[One 2 question]

As for believers, though we may disagree oj points, we are united because of Christ in us.

Great news hey

 

[One 2 question]

No Jesus did not want us to give our own interpretations to these parables. He defined the usage of the parables and how to understand them in Matthew 13.

That is why Jesus sent us His Spirit to carry on with what He didn't finish. So any uninterpreted parables He can interprete, apply and assist us to respond as Jesus requires. Pretty simple really.

 

[One 2 question]

God has preserved His people. He never promised we would not face hardship, just the opposite.

He never said ev ery Jew would be saved nor every one who prays a prayer would be saved.

God works through human kind. If you do the research like I did, you would find the bible has been preserved doctrinal error free in legitimate translations. Translating bring its own set of problems but not doctrinal error.

God protects His Word and if you do linguistic studies of Hebrew?aramaic and Koine Greek you will see that at leat in English ( I speak no other languages so I can't answer for French, Spanish etc.) is error free as far as Doctrine goes.

Once again the only inerrant infallible Scriptures are the original autographas and all faithful copies of the originals in their original languages.

To me it is simple. The same Spirit Who revealed truth to humans in the past is the same Spirit in me. So it is His responsibility to ensure past and new revelations find their way to whoever Jesus sent Him to deliver it to. And that He doesn't make any mistakes or errors in its delivery.

I have full confidence in Jesus to have His Spirit return to me to clarify anything I didn't get right the first time. Again it's pretty simple hey.

 

[soberxp]

Can the Bible contain mistakes?

The Bible is the Word of God, meaning that the Holy Spirit has inspired men to write it.

However, is it completely perfect and devoid of any mistake or contradiction?

If the Bible is so clear and understandable, why are there so many church denominations? Why Christians don't agree on many things about religion?

Some Christians say that we need to pray to God so that He send us His Holy Spirit who helps us interpret the Bible. However, what does that mean? If several Christians studying the Bible, ask God for discernment, but they finally have opposite interpretations, what can we really conclude?

As a Christian, can we widely reinterpret or even deny certain biblical verses?

The Bible states that all that God created were good.
The prophets in the Bible said that the wicked are inherently evil; they have always been so.
So which one is right?

 

[One 2 question]

Some Christians say that we need to pray to God so that He send us His Holy Spirit who helps us interpret the Bible. However, what does that mean? If several Christians studying the Bible, ask God for discernment, but they finally have opposite interpretations, what can we really conclude?

As a Christian, can we widely reinterpret or even deny certain biblical verses?

I'm not sure about you but I'm certain that Jesus knows what we know and don't. If one of His sheep have misunderstood Him then it's His responsibility to ensure He is understood correctly

 

[Ronald Nolette]

That is why Jesus sent us His Spirit to carry on with what He didn't finish. So any uninterpreted parables He can interprete, apply and assist us to respond as Jesus requires. Pretty simple really.

No. that is the answer cults give in coming up with all their heretical interpretations. The spirit leads us into the truths laid down. He does not give new revelation or new interpretations.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

To me it is simple. The same Spirit Who revealed truth to humans in the past is the same Spirit in me. So it is His responsibility to ensure past and new revelations find their way to whoever Jesus sent Him to deliver it to. And that He doesn't make any mistakes or errors in its delivery.

I have full confidence in Jesus to have His Spirit return to me to clarify anything I didn't get right the first time. Again it's pretty simple hey.

Your first line is wrong. Your second is correct. Past revelation is known as Scripture. Any new revelation will never contradict or override the truth given teh church.

Most people call God correcting their erros as new revelation as it is mostly just us unlearning a false interpretation.

 

[One 2 question]

Your first line is wrong. Your second is correct. Past revelation is known as Scripture. Any new revelation will never contradict or override the truth given teh church.

Most people call God correcting their erros as new revelation as it is mostly just us unlearning a false interpretation.

Fortunately God has never stopped revealing Himself through His Spirit, especially over the past 2000 years. The bibles have been a small part of this process for sure. But as far as new continuous revelations of the inexhaustible truth of God, the Spirit has been doing this throughout this present age.

You are right in saying that it is the Spirit's responsibility to correct errors and misinterpretation of truth. This is very comforting and reassuring hey.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Fortunately God has never stopped revealing Himself through His Spirit, especially over the past 2000 years. The bibles have been a small part of this process for sure. But as far as new continuous revelations of the inexhaustible truth of God, the Spirit has been doing this throughout this present age.

You are right in saying that it is the Spirit's responsibility to correct errors and misinterpretation of truth. This is very comforting and reassuring hey.

Once again your last line is awesome but your first line is garbage! This is the line cultists use to justify wandering from Scripture. Any "new revelation" has to be compared with teh existing revelation aka the Bible. If it supports, then it is good, but if it contradicts Scripture in any way- it is to be resisted with all our might and discarded.

 

[One 2 question]

..... existing revelation aka the Bible. If it supports, then it is good, but if it contradicts Scripture in any way- it is to be resisted with all our might and discarded.

After telling the Isrealites one thing, 40 years later He told them to do the opposite. Like many Christians including myself, I would remain faithful to what God said, as recorded in the bible.

God said to Joshua, "go do to Ai as you did to Jericho". To Jericho they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, man and woman, young and old, ox and sheep and donkey, with the edge of the sword.

Caleb could have legitimately opposed Joshua and said, IT IS WRITTEN, in stone, by the finger of God, DO NOT KILL, so we cannot do this to Jericho or Ai. You are opposing God. You could not have heard from God. A messenger of Satan must have told you to do this. God would not contradict Himself.

But we read He did.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

After telling the Isrealites one thing, 40 years later He told them to do the opposite. Like many Christians including myself, I would remain faithful to what God said, as recorded in the bible.

God said to Joshua, "go do to Ai as you did to Jericho". To Jericho they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, man and woman, young and old, ox and sheep and donkey, with the edge of the sword.

Caleb could have legitimately opposed Joshua and said, IT IS WRITTEN, in stone, by the finger of God, DO NOT KILL, so we cannot do this to Jericho or Ai. You are opposing God. You could not have heard from God. A messenger of Satan must have told you to do this. God would not contradict Himself.

But we read He did.

He dd not contradict HImself. Those commandments were written for mankind, not HImself.

And the commandment was to not commit murder, not the generic thou shalt not kill.

All mankind is guilty before god. Who are we to question what He orders and does.

Romans 9:14-23

King James Version

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14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?
20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

 

[One 2 question]

He dd not contradict HImself. Those commandments were written for mankind, not HImself.

He commanded the same people, different generation not to kill.

The Hebrew word kill - raw-tsakh'
A primitive root; properly to dash in pieces, that is, kill (a human being), especially to murder: - put to death, kill, (man-) slay (-er), murder (-er).

And the commandment was to not commit murder, not the generic thou shalt not kill.

BTW what's the 'generic' kill or murder vs God's command regarding kill or murder?

Which kill or murder did their same God commanded them to do when He said kill or murder men, women and children. Yes, the situation was different and that justified God contradicting His previous command.

All mankind is guilty before god. Who are we to question what He orders and does.

Romans 9:14-23​

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King James Version​

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14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?
20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

Absolutely, no question here. My Father the Creator can do as He pleases. After all He prepared His script, designed and created everything to fit in with this script and owns it all.

 

[Jay Ross]

No, there were no mistakes in the original recorded scriptures, however, the man generated translations do contain many mistakes.