Can the Bible contain mistakes?

[Ronald Nolette]

BTW what's the 'generic' kill or murder vs God's command regarding kill or murder?

Which kill or murder did their same God commanded them to do when He said kill or murder men, women and children. Yes, the situation was different and that justified God contradicting His previous command.

God ordered Israel to war and to slaughter the heathen. He can do that, He is God! But murder is different from killing due to intent.

Killing in war or defending ones people is different than murder.

Ending the life of false worshippers and using men to do it is within the purviews of God.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

However, is it completely perfect and devoid of any mistake or contradiction?

Do you believe Jesus is incapable of providing mankind with an accurate copy of His Word in spite of mankind's rebellion?

All things are possible with God - Matthew 19:26

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Ending the life of false worshippers and using men to do it is within the purviews of God.

Under the old covenant.

He''s not leading His people thru the Holy Spirit under the New Covenant to to out and whack unbelievers.

The catholic jesuits think they are supposed to whack non catholics but they are led of the devil as are all catholics

 

[quietthinker]

Can the Bible contain mistakes?​

Can people understand poorly?

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Can people understand poorly?

That's the problem.

The devil and his demons stand ready to assist people with understanding poorly

In fact, the old devil has preachers on TV, across the internet, and in the majority of churches twisting God's Word

 

[quietthinker]

That's the problem.

The devil and his demons stand ready to assist people with understanding poorly

In fact, the old devil has preachers on TV, across the internet, and in the majority of churches twisting God's Word

Could you be numbered amongst them?

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Could you be numbered amongst them?

No a chance.

It's the followers of catholicism and so called reformed theology that are deceived by the devil being lead by demons to not accept the whole counsel of God.

You seem to be among them

 

[One 2 question]

No a chance.

It's the followers of catholicism and so called reformed theology that are deceived by the devil being lead by demons to not accept the whole counsel of God.

You seem to be among them View attachment 78061

Yes, it could be quite simple. Those who are led by the Spirit of God are children of God. And by the fruit they bear one can determine whose children they are. The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control.

 

[quietthinker]

No a chance.

It's the followers of catholicism and so called reformed theology that are deceived by the devil being lead by demons to not accept the whole counsel of God.

You seem to be among them View attachment 78061

I don't mind being classified as a sinner.

 

[Fred J]

Can the Bible contain mistakes?

The Bible is the Word of God, meaning that the Holy Spirit has inspired men to write it.

However, is it completely perfect and devoid of any mistake or contradiction?

If the Bible is so clear and understandable, why are there so many church denominations? Why Christians don't agree on many things about religion?

Some Christians say that we need to pray to God so that He send us His Holy Spirit who helps us interpret the Bible. However, what does that mean? If several Christians studying the Bible, ask God for discernment, but they finally have opposite interpretations, what can we really conclude?

As a Christian, can we widely reinterpret or even deny certain biblical verses?

Instead of judging by appearance these denominations, rather judge by right the Holy Bible of our faith.

Therefore by the same scripture Jesus disciple us, we will know them by their fruit.

For our faith and works according to the New Testament the scripture is sufficient, but if you want to take minor variation as 'mistake' affect not our faith and works.

For they are there for those who are perishing, fault finding to their convenience to continue in the flesh, sin and the world.

Even if GOD gave us a perfect Bible, we in the flesh will still have issues with HIS righteousness on the other hand.

Jesus already said and is sound doctrine for the church to begin with, whether accept it or not and face the consequences.

That, "For many are called but only a few chosen."

And, "The way is hard and difficult to follow, for only a few make it."

Even when there was no Holy Bible, the Apostles and church had oral teaching of Christ and only written epistles, here and there, even circulating among churches, cum insufficient to 'grasp'.

Nevertheless, they fulfilled the commission in faith and works having the Holy Ghost, whilst laid down their own lives.

They were not to nor unable to convenience the world in the wrong way the world seek truth and perfection and eternal life.

The Holy Bible is made for 'children', even ones truly born again spirit in the same adult body as child of GOD with a beginning.

Who'll by faith accept the scripture and teaching as it is written, and proclaim it with similarly good works. (2Timothy3:16&17)

For it is written, "GOD is not an author of confusion but of peace."

And, "Jesus Christ is the author and finisher of our faith."

The New Testament is the foundation of the Apostles, and also of the Prophets which has been brought froth from the Old Testament in fulfillment.

The church then and today have been discipled and built upon this foundation of Jesus Christ the Son, where GOD in these last days spoke by.

Nevertheless, please bring to the table the 'mistakes' you're referring to, thank you?

Shalom in the name of Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[One 2 question]

Nevertheless, they fulfilled the commission in faith and works having the Holy Ghost, whilst laid down their own lives.

As do we hey. My focus is on the Divine Person Who these mere men and women possessed. He is the One Who received from Father and expressed these divine truths in such a way that certain humans ( prophets) could comprehend them. Some of these truths were written down and passed on while others weren't, they were communicated orally for a time.

But just because some truths didn't stand the test of time in oral or written form they still remain as truth. Are they lost? No, because the same Person Who communicated Divine Truth from the Divine Father lives in us today revealing formerly expressed truths AND further progressive truths from the mouth of God.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

I don't mind being classified as a sinner.

Only those who repent of their sin and walk with the Lord will go to Heaven.

Admittedly you proclaim yourself to be on the high way to hell

You should check ya self before you wreck ya self and make a U-Turn and get right with the Lord.

 

[quietthinker]

Only those who repent of their sin and walk with the Lord will go to Heaven.

Admittedly you proclaim yourself to be on the high way to hell

You should check ya self before you wreck ya self and make a U-Turn and get right with the Lord.

I guess you've repented of your arrogance yet I see a continuance of it....so I would ask, do you see it as ignorance on your part or blindness on mine?

 

[Fred J]

As do we hey. My focus is on the Divine Person Who these mere men and women possessed. He is the One Who received from Father and expressed these divine truths in such a way that certain humans ( prophets) could comprehend them. Some of these truths were written down and passed on while others weren't, they were communicated orally for a time.

But just because some truths did stand the test of time in oral or written form they still remain as truth. Are they lost? No, because the same Person Who communicated Divine Truth from the Divine Father lives in us today revealing formerly expressed truths AND further progressive truths from the mouth of God.

There are variation in the English Bible versions themselves for one, and that's why am sticking to the KJV version.

Second, there can be contradiction between passages, but they can be sorted out for the lack of knowledge and understanding.

For example plainly speaking, Jesus said the Law cannot be abolished even to a 'dot' and 'comma', but Paul said the Law is abolished, why the contradiction and mistake?

There is 'none' because the Law cannot be abolished until they are fulfilled, and Lord Jesus Christ fulfilled them and provided us a new grace and truth Law.

That is why way long after Jesus, and due to the confusion of the Jew and Gentile Christian about the Law, born again Paul proclaimed the Law as abolished.

Now on the other hand, since the Law have been 'abolished', therefore why many of the born again churches freed from the Law, implement 'tithes' once again?

For no where in the New Testament since Matthew to Revelation ever the Apostles and church implemented 'tithes'.

There is only 'offerings' ministered and witnessed by Paul to the churches, calling them to be as 'cheerful' and 'generous' givers.

There's no 'fixed' amount like 'tithes' 10 percent from everything reaped by the people, but rather whatever amount and whenever possible be ready and collect them.

GOD sees, as the Son saw once besides 'tithing', there were 'offerings' brought to the Temple, and many gave out of their abundance while the widow gave everything she had.

As in the book of Acts, there are those who sold piece of their property and gave the full amount to the Apostles.

If it is not 'serious', why Paul had to warn the church about the Law and the consequences, and as going back to bondage once again?

For if a believer were to practice to one letter in the Law, he will have to practice all that is in the Law.

Even to break one letter in the Law is to break them all, and even to the least in letter is neglected are under curse.

Jesus even rebuked the Jews that day, for by their tradition they transgress the commandment of GOD.

And similarly in certain churches today 'tithing' has become their tradition and by this they transgress the commandment of GOD.

The commandment of GOD they transgress is this;

Galatians 3:
10. For as many as are of the works of the Law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the Law to do them.
11. But no man is justified by the Law in the sight of GOD, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

That's why the just Apostles who lived by faith, and a Jew who know better, did not bring forth the Law of 'tithing' into the New Testament.

In regards the Apostles' collection from the church, offerings came from cheerful and generous church believers without limit, even scripturally encouraged by Paul himself.

Because;

13. Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the Law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
14, That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

Since due to the curse of the Law on the incompetent Israelites, Christ was made a curse for them and hanged on a tree as Cross, and have redeemed them once and for 'all'.

Even Gentiles, because the blessing of Abraham came on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ.

Therefore due to the lack of knowledge and understanding (and not mistakes in the Holy Bible) these churches once again have gone back to the 'yoke of slavery'.

And it seems like Jesus Christ have to be crucified once again to set free these churches who practice 'tithes' and are under curse.

Apparently that's not going to happen, and only these churches will have to repent from their works of 'iniquity' or 'lawlessness'.

Shalom in the name of Lord Jesus Christ

 

[One 2 question]

There are variation in the English Bible versions themselves for one, and that's why am sticking to the KJV version.

The original KJV or the modern day KJV?

 

[Fred J]

The original KJV or the modern day KJV?

Am just using the phone apps KJV version in faith.

The scripture quotation in my posts are from that version.

 

[HealthyShape]

Second, there can be contradiction between passages, but they can be sorted out for the lack of knowledge and understanding.

Some can be, some can't be and some are rather overlooked for the lack of knowledge and understanding (for example for the laziness in comparing the texts among gospels).

 

[One 2 question]

Am just using the phone apps KJV version in faith.

The scripture quotation in my posts are from that version.

No worries. There is the popular 66 book KJV then there's the original 80 book bible.

 

[Fred J]

No worries. There is the popular 66 book KJV then there's the original 80 book bible.

Thanks, i didn't know that there's KJV with 80 books.

i have the 1611 KJV version of 66 books as well;

Nowadays hardly you see believers carrying the physical Bible around since the apps in the phone has taken over.

The age of information and entertainment at your fingertips can be good on one side and can be evil on the other.

Since Jesus said that our eyes is like a window to our soul, therefore to whatever we watch or witness either can corrupt or enlighten our soul.

Now back to the mistakes in the Bible, i haven't come across of any, but variation in words and sentence there is between versions.

Doesn't matter from whatever version we start, pray and make a comparison with few major and older available versions.

And based on my experience, eventually GOD will lead us to a version where our spirit will be comfortable with and we'll not look back.

Just because am unlearned the first Bible handed to me was the CEV, and then other versions back and forth in a short time.

Then to ESV for some time and was very promising, until a sentence in comparison the KJV captured my spirit and never looked back after that . (sorry i can't remember the sentence)

For example based on the KJV, one variation was brought to my attention while on this platform, that is from John 3:3, on one version says 'born again' and the other 'born from above'.

In my spirit between versions, knowledge and the wisdom given me, i don't see the variation or mistake as some do.

Whether 'born again' or 'born from above' it's the same and doesn't change or affect the narrative breathed out by GOD.

Shalom in the name or Jesus Christ our Lord.

 

[One 2 question]

Thanks, i didn't know that there's KJV with 80 books.

i have the 1611 KJV version of 66 books as well;

Nowadays hardly you see believers carrying the physical Bible around since the apps in the phone has taken over.

The age of information and entertainment at your fingertips can be good on one side and can be evil on the other.

Since Jesus said that our eyes is like a window to our soul, therefore to whatever we watch or witness either can corrupt or enlighten our soul.

Now back to the mistakes in the Bible, i haven't come across of any, but variation in words and sentence there is between versions.

Doesn't matter from whatever version we start, pray and make a comparison with few major and older available versions.

And based on my experience, eventually GOD will lead us to a version where our spirit will be comfortable with and we'll not look back.

Just because am unlearned the first Bible handed to me was the CEV, and then other versions back and forth in a short time.

Then to ESV for some time and was very promising, until a sentence in comparison the KJV captured my spirit and never looked back after that . (sorry i can't remember the sentence)

For example based on the KJV, one variation was brought to my attention while on this platform, that is from John 3:3, on one version says 'born again' and the other 'born from above'.

In my spirit between versions, knowledge and the wisdom given me, i don't see the variation or mistake as some do.

Whether 'born again' or 'born from above' it's the same and doesn't change or affect the narrative breathed out by GOD.

Shalom in the name or Jesus Christ our Lord.

Thanks. Yes, the breathed out words of God the Father, as Jesus mentioned to Satan, are available to us by the same means hey, His Spirit. I'm so glad we have Him in us revealing and teaching us. So what version of the bible one uses or not is of little consequence when we have the Spirit of Truth as our Guide leading us into all truth.