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I used to think that you could'nt lose your salvation but now I'm not so sure..can someone help me out here ?
I used to think that you could'nt lose your salvation but now I'm not so sure..can someone help me out here ?
There are some that are predestinated to faithfully serve Christ, and Jesus already... literally 'owns' those (like His Apostles and disciples of His first coming - see John 17). For the last days, those are represented by believers that have already been 'sealed' in prep against the "hour of temptation" (the coming temptation by a false messiah). In other words, no matter what, they will not fall away from Christ to bow to the coming false messiah by mistake. They will gladly make themselves subject to death if necessary to keep from bowing to the false one, like Daniel and his fellows.
Then there are those who come to Christ Jesus through 'their' word (preaching; again per John 17). And they are to become joined with the saints which The Father predestinated to Jesus. But the difference with these is, they must... go through a specific testing, which is about the "hour of temptation" for our generation, and these can fall away IF they choose to because of Satan's deceptions that God allows for this time, thus becoming the "five foolish virgins".
For those in that second group per John 17, you are indeed 'called'... by Christ Jesus. And as long as you keep the Faith and stay in Christ Jesus to the end, not being deceived by the false messiah yet not fearing death, then you are among Christ's elect, and you have a crown of glory to look forward to. But listen to the false prophets in the world (and there are many today), and turn away from Christ Jesus and His Word, then that is a rejection of His calling you. And He will not have rejected you, it is you that will have rejected Him.
So if you are called, then have no fear of falling away, and no doubt about your 'calling' to be in Christ Jesus. You can feel as solid as this earth about it. But you must stay... dilligent in listening to our Lord Jesus and His Word, and continually compare what He said with what His enemies are saying, and be aware of the difference so as to remain undeceived. You must do this even if a family loved one is deceived, even if your own children are deceived to bow to the coming false one.
I used to think that you could'nt lose your salvation but now I'm not so sure..can someone help me out here ?
It is very scary to think that salvation can be lost...it gives me the mindset that I have to do works to keep it when I know I can never live up to that. How can a recreated, born-again spirit be un-born again ? I have to rely totally on Jesus, other wise I am in big trouble. Thanks everyone for your posts, they are helping me a great deal...It's good to see you back with us aspen2
So what happens to the born-again spirit when salvation is lost, does it just become darkened, does it return to it's former state un-alive unto God ?Salvation is not a possession. Salvation is experienced. We experience it as soon as we begin an eternal relationship with Jesus. Losing our salvation is willfully deciding to work for our damnation by following our desires. It takes work to be damned - it takes sacrifice (vulnerability) to be saved.
So what happens to the born-again spirit when salvation is lost, does it just become darkened, does it return to it's former state un-alive unto God ?