Can You Read Dreams?

[marks]

I am again getting raked over the coals here

I'm sorry you feel that way!

Much love!

 

[marks]

I shared a couple of dreams before with some people and boy, did they butcher and miss the mark! I already knew the interpretation... I was at that time just looking for confirmation.

Yes, we can see when it's off target.

Much love!

 

[marks]

I have problems with virtually the entire charismatic movement these days. It's nearly all empty talk, I'm afraid to say.


Am I teaching formulas, Mark? Answer Post #11 for me.

You have formulas, don't you? Another word would be "methods". Principles?

Much love!

 

[TLHKAJ]

Of course I have. But dreams are different. At least they are in my own experience.

Please don't, Lol. I was thinking in this context that I don't even believe I will be helping the OP with his dream if he comes back. Somehow I have been made into a pariah on this thread, which does not make the most conducive environment for interpreting a dream.

But at least it's been a chance to discuss the subject somewhat.

I have a fence to build, so I believe I will attend to that for awhile instead, Lol.

I wasn't trying to rake you over the coals, brother. I actually replied to this thread before you did. And I replied according to my experience and strong conviction.

But ...please don't ask me not to share dreams and visions that I feel God is bringing to my attention to share. I need to follow His leading in this.

You may have missed where I said that my dreams/vision do not need further interpretation. I need to post them with scripture and let them speak to the reader. It's all God's doing.

Ps... @Pearl idk how I quoted you in this post. I think I was meaning to reply to you earlier and got sidetracked by needing to tend my animals before storms hit. lol

 

[Pearl]

This is the problem within the new age charastemetic movement . I have heard of schools where they TEACH folks how to interpret dreams
or how to heal , or etc etc . YE cannot teach what GOD ALONE does give .
GOD giveth the gifts unto members in the body . But to try and learn HOW to , IS BAD NEWS .
I have even seen folks that tell or try and teach you HOW to speak with tongues .
MY dear sister , EITHER GOD GIVETH or HE DONT . Each one will have his or her own gift from GOD
and its to be used for the edifying of the body . Man cannot teach one how to interpret
GOD alone either gives one the gift , or at times HE simply gives us the interpreation of our own dreams .
ONE THING I KNOW . IF GOD GIVETH A DREAM , TRUST IN HIM , FOR HE ALONE will interpret what HE has given unto men .
Its true we can take our dreams to another brother or sister , but beware carnal technigues .
WHEN folks try and teach okay this number or that number represents this or that
OR etc . No . Daniel did not have to STUDY TO LEARN HOW to interpret . HE SIMPLY PRAYED TO GOD FOR INTEPREATION .
AND GOD gave it . Let us flee the tabernacles of many men gone wrong and come back to simply CHILDLIKE TRUST and FAITH IN GOD .

In modern day Christian circles there is too much teaching of what should be spontaneous. Like prayer and how to receive the Holy Spirit as well as you you quoted @amigo de christo . It can't work because you can't teach a gift. A gift has to be given. Otherwise it's not a gift it would become a 'learned' thing which is a sort of quenching of the Holy Spirit.

 

[Pearl]

Who said anything about announcing it to the world? That's entirely irrelevant to the discussion, or at least I thought it was.

Not really; it's like those people who tell everybody that they have this gift or that gift and say they have the gift of interpreting dreams. It should not be necessary to tell people what our gifts are, in fact we should look to others to tell us - not the other way round.

 

[Pearl]

Ok, well my question is how?

Because you don't need to go to a pastor for the interpretation of a dream.

 

[TLHKAJ]

Your previous point notwithstanding, this is where we would part company. I have seen numerous people post dreams publicly that I believe without question were meant for the entire body of Christ.

You misunderstood what I said. I didn't say that people aren't given dreams that are for the entire body. In fact, the ones I am feeling led to post are for the entire body... specifically, to those who will hear.

 

[TLHKAJ]

but then the same can be said of scripture, and as Paul taught, "There of necessity must be factions among you, that those who are approved of God may be made manifest." In other words, good interpreters (of both the word and dreams for that matter) - authoritative interpreters - will be made manifest to all by their ability to explain things in full, and make sense of the entire picture and not just one sentence or two, or a few symbols here or there without treating the whole thing.

This scripture comes to mind and I think it applies here.

2 Peter 1:19-21
[19]We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
[20]Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
[21]For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

One thing I think is a disadvantage in mixed groups is that anyone can come claiming to be a believer and follower of Christ, and have very bad and twisted doctrine and lead others astray. Whereas, if you have a group of like-minded believers who are rooted in sound doctrine, it can be a place where babes in Christ can be nourished in the Word without so many thorns. A place/group like that will naturally weed out those who want truth from those who do not simply because those who can't tolerate truth won't hang around. And those who do will stay and soak it in like a sponge.

 

[BarneyFife]

Can anybody here read dreams? It's not easy. People who have a gift in this area teach about what you should do. Dreams can show areas that a person needs to work on.

I can read my dreams somewhat, but I'm not that good at it. I get an idea of what chapters or verses I need to read about. What areas to address. I also don't want to rely too much on what I see in my dreams, because that can lead me away from something else I need put my focus on.

If ya write it down, I can prolly read it.

Dreams are seldom from God. They usually have more to do with chemical processes and emotions. I read that somewhere on the Interweb, so it must be correct.

 

[amigo de christo]

This post I am in complete agreement with. I've been saying the same thing for years.

Let me try again for the sake of anyone reading: Dream interpretation is NOT about following formulas. In fact, there are many who have provided "Christian dream dictionaries," which I have warned against using dozens of times over the years, and have never used or consulted in my life. As I have stated very clearly for the last four years now, the meaning of symbolism changes from dream to dream depending on context, and how it is used, so it is only through the Holy Spirit that one can come to the proper interpretation. But there is THINKING involved, for heaven's sakes. You cannot interpret scripture without THINKING and putting things together properly. The Lord wants us to use our minds because reason confirms whether things are true or they are false. We do not serve a God who wants us to be a bunch of brainless automatons that can't put 2 and 2 together to see how teachings connect. He wants us USING OUR INTELLECT because it will confirm to us truth from falsehood, and reason from a lack thereof.

Spiritual intellect . I get what you are saying . there is spiriutal intellect and there is carnal intellect . One is good the other is death .
Happy to see you dont agree with them false ones .

 

[BarneyFife]

I used to have recurring dreams of plane crashes, tornadoes, and going to school/work in my pajamas or worse ('nuff said?). The disaster dreams were always near-misses.

 

[amigo de christo]

Why would you need to ask someone what is happening in their life before you would tell them the meaning of their dream?

Much love!

That is a good question my friend .

 

[TLHKAJ]

Lol. In defense, if they were interpreting a dream that was personal to you, then they were at a distinct disadvantage from not knowing your life.

You see, this is what I am talking about when I refer to needing to use the mind. When a believer has a dream about their own personal life, do you know why it is easier for them to interpret it? Because they know their own lives, in great detail. They know their actions, both private and public; they know their own hearts; they know their own history; they know their own relationships and secrets, and failings, and inner desires, and weaknesses and callings and hopes and fears and dreams. They have all this INFORMATION at their finger tips. The outside interpreter does not, and needs to gather it if they would come anywhere close to interpreting a dream accurately.

I disagree, brother ...because God who gives the dream or vision knows us more completely than anyone, even ourselves. We don't need to know the person's life in order to interpret a dream ... that's up to God.

I have at times been able to know the meanings of other people's dreams, but the interpretation came suddenly as if being hand fed to me and afterward, I was wowed by God's work. I knew it wasn't my doing. I didn't know any details of the person's life until they shared a dream and God gave understanding. (And I don't claim to be an interpreter of dreams. It has just happened on occasion.)

I'm just trying to have a discussion, brother. This is not "beat up Chris" day.

 

[Hidden In Him]

You have formulas, don't you? Another word would be "methods". Principles?

Much love!

No.

 

[Hidden In Him]

But ...please don't ask me not to share dreams and visions that I feel God is bringing to my attention to share. I need to follow His leading in this.

You may have missed where I said that my dreams/vision do not need further interpretation. I need to post them with scripture and let them speak to the reader. It's all God's doing.

What did I say in this post, sister? Geez.

Please don't, Lol. I was thinking in this context that I don't even believe I will be helping the OP with his dream if he comes back. Somehow I have been made into a pariah on this thread, which does not make the most conducive environment for interpreting a dream.

 

[TLHKAJ]

What did I say in this post, sister? Geez.

You quoted me saying I was sensing a leading from God to share a couple of dreams and a vision. And you said, "Please don't." What did I miss? lol

 

[Hidden In Him]

In modern day Christian circles there is too much teaching of what should be spontaneous.

If this is in reference to dream interpretation, Pearl, you are as wrong as anyone I have ever heard comment on this subject. This is absolutely 100% diametrically opposed to the truth, and I would be sinning against you and everyone else reading this thread if I said otherwise.

 

[Hidden In Him]

You quoted me saying I was sensing a leading from God to share a couple of dreams and a vision. And you said, "Please don't." What did I miss? lol

Why are you asking me not to share your dreams when I already told you I wouldn't want you to? :

 

[amigo de christo]

In modern day Christian circles there is too much teaching of what should be spontaneous. Like prayer and how to receive the Holy Spirit as well as you you quoted @amigo de christo . It can't work because you can't teach a gift. A gift has to be given. Otherwise it's not a gift it would become a 'learned' thing which is a sort of quenching of the Holy Spirit.

Exactly dear sister . I am sure Hidden in HIM would agree with this as well .