can you tell me all the laws of old testament and new testament

[farouk]

Eph 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

Col 2:20 Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances,

Heb 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

Heb 9:9 Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience;

Heb 9:10 Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.

Heb 10:1 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.

Heb 10:3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.

Heb 10:4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.

Heb 7:11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?
Heb 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

The laws of the Levitical Priesthood are Gone. That is what was removed.


1Jo 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
1Jo 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1Jo 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
1Jo 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
1Jo 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
1Jo 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
2Jo 1:6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.
Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

Love God, Love your neighbour.
Fulfills the Law.
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@Ziggy As per Hebrews 7.19 what we now have in Christ is indeed better than the law...

 

[2nd Timothy Group]

I agree. The KJV fanatics have no basis whatsoever for their bias. I have 38 English translations.

38 translations. Nice. I use the blueletterbible.com site. It allows searches across their 13 Bibles. I've been using it for years and it has really helped to shape my understanding of the Lord's Word. For a couple of years, I depended upon those translations to allow them to "speak" to me, instead of depending on "man's" ideas of what they say. In other words, I let the Spirit of God teach me.

Forgive me Lord, in the areas of which I am wrong.

 

[farouk]

Eph 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

@Ziggy Goes to show that the New Testament really does indeed contain a new system of thought... :)

 

[2nd Timothy Group]

@Ziggy Goes to show that the New Testament really does indeed contain a new system of thought... :)

I see the New Testament in the life of Abraham and his wife Sarah . . . beginning in Genesis 17. And before that, I see the New Testament in Genesis 3:22-24. Same thought, which is that all people prior to Christ must wait for Christ to appear as the Tree of Life upon Calvary Hill . . . the reason for why Adam and Eve were not allowed to eat from the Tree of Life in the Garden. It all points to Christ . . . same Gospel. :)

John 5:39 NLT - 39 "You search the Scriptures because you think they give you eternal life. But the Scriptures point to me!"

 

[farouk]

I see the New Testament in the life of Abraham and his wife Sarah . . . beginning in Genesis 17. And before that, I see the New Testament in Genesis 3:22-24. Same thought, which is that all people prior to Christ must wait for Christ to appear as the Tree of Life upon Calvary Hill . . . the reason for why Adam and Eve were not allowed to eat from the Tree of Life in the Garden. It all points to Christ . . . same Gospel. :)

John 5:39 NLT - 39 "You search the Scriptures because you think they give you eternal life. But the Scriptures point to me!"

I would see the justified by faith (Hebrews 11 has many examples) in the Old Testament, but I would see the church beginning at Pentecost, Acts 2, and Israel and the church being distinct.

 

[farouk]

I agree. The KJV fanatics have no basis whatsoever for their bias. I have 38 English translations.

Whether or not I am a fanatic is not for me to say; but I do appreciate and use the KJV in English.

 

[kcnalp]

Whether or not I am a fanatic is not for me to say; but I do appreciate and use the KJV in English.

I like the KJV, but I think it makes it difficult for new Christians.

 

[Ziggy]

I'm beginning to wonder if the question that so divides people is,
whether we are still under the Levitical priesthood Law, in which we are not.
Christ having become not only the only sacrifice worthy and perfect as a sin offering for one and all.
But also the change in the Priesthood from Levitical to Melchizadek Priesthood.
This is that "LAW"
vs.
The commandments of God.
God gave 10 commandments written not only in stone but in our hearts as well.
What followed with Moses was written in the letter, the traditions, in which a lot of what Aaron put in there
was what he was brought up under in Egypt.
1 example. The very first case of someone mentioning being stoned is under Pharaoh's Authority in Egypt.
Why would God tell his people to follow the same practices as those of Pharoah?

Exo 8:25 And Pharaoh called for Moses and for Aaron, and said, Go ye, sacrifice to your God in the land.
Exo 8:26 And Moses said, It is not meet so to do; for we shall sacrifice the abomination of the Egyptians to the LORD our God: lo, shall we sacrifice the abomination of the Egyptians before their eyes, and will they not stone us?
Exo 8:27 We will go three days' journey into the wilderness, and sacrifice to the LORD our God, as he shall command us.

It was Aaron who created the golden calf idol once he believed that Moses wasn't coming back.
And Aaron is the Priest of the Levitical Priesthood.
I believe there was a lot of things "added" that weren't intended to be there.

So even if you scrap all of that..
These are the Tried and True which remain, which JESUS CHRIST Himself said we should keep.

And I don't give a hoot who came after and tried to change that..
I follow JESUS and not man.

just as a, oh by the way..
(storm is coming.. stand strong and faithful)
God Bless Us All
Hugs

 

[Grailhunter]

I'm beginning to wonder if the question that so divides people is,
whether we are still under the Levitical priesthood Law, in which we are not.
Christ having become not only the only sacrifice worthy and perfect as a sin offering for one and all.
But also the change in the Priesthood from Levitical to Melchizadek Priesthood.
This is that "LAW"
vs.
The commandments of God.
God gave 10 commandments written not only in stone but in our hearts as well.
What followed with Moses was written in the letter, the traditions, in which a lot of what Aaron put in there
was what he was brought up under in Egypt.
1 example. The very first case of someone mentioning being stoned is under Pharaoh's Authority in Egypt.
Why would God tell his people to follow the same practices as those of Pharoah?

Exo 8:25 And Pharaoh called for Moses and for Aaron, and said, Go ye, sacrifice to your God in the land.
Exo 8:26 And Moses said, It is not meet so to do; for we shall sacrifice the abomination of the Egyptians to the LORD our God: lo, shall we sacrifice the abomination of the Egyptians before their eyes, and will they not stone us?
Exo 8:27 We will go three days' journey into the wilderness, and sacrifice to the LORD our God, as he shall command us.

It was Aaron who created the golden calf idol once he believed that Moses wasn't coming back.
And Aaron is the Priest of the Levitical Priesthood.
I believe there was a lot of things "added" that weren't intended to be there.

So even if you scrap all of that..
These are the Tried and True which remain, which JESUS CHRIST Himself said we should keep.

And I don't give a hoot who came after and tried to change that..
I follow JESUS and not man.

just as a, oh by the way..
(storm is coming.. stand strong and faithful)
God Bless Us All
Hugs

Well Ziggy did you get your question answered?
To put it bluntly....no "Laws" in the New Testament as a concept. Christ's teachings can be referred to as laws but not as static laws. Static laws failed or you can say we failed the static law.
The Old Testament had 613 Laws give or take. I can give you a website for a list. lol Understanding them is a college course. Most of the Laws were given early on in the Old Testament and by practicality were nearly impossible to keep as time went on. And also there is the issue of interpretation. One of the things Christ did was free us from the burden of the Mosaic Law.

 

[Ziggy]

Well Ziggy did you get your question answered?
To put it bluntly....no "Laws" in the New Testament as a concept. Christ's teachings can be referred to as laws but not as static laws. Static laws failed or you can say we failed the static law.
The Old Testament had 613 Laws give or take. I can give you a website for a list. lol Understanding them is a college course. Most of the Laws were given early on in the Old Testament and by practicality were nearly impossible to keep as time went on. And also there is the issue of interpretation. One of the things Christ did was free us from the burden of the Mosaic Law.

I agree..
But not the 10 commandments.
That's all I'm saying.
And there are laws that were given to Abraham.
I believe if we followed the land laws, like every 7th year allowing a field to rest. It helps rebuild the nutrients in the ground, so it doesn't get over worked. There are commonsense laws and then you have the levitical laws for sin and atonement.
Maybe if we listened to a few of them we wouldn't have GMO cancer causing foods laden with pesticides that kill millions.
Maybe if we followed just the basic.. get married then have kids, the population wouldn't explode, we wouldn't need so many hormones and antibiotics injected into our foods..

We could of and should of and still should take better care of the housing we been given. No matter how temporary it is.
If you can't take care of the little you have (talent) it will end up going to the one who can (10 talents) .

Grailhunter,
Much Love
I feel uneasy today..
If I sound argumentative please forgive me..
I'm not trying to be..
idk what it is..
just.. uneasy..
BIG HUGS

 

[Grailhunter]

I agree..
But not the 10 commandments.
That's all I'm saying.
And there are laws that were given to Abraham.
I believe if we followed the land laws, like every 7th year allowing a field to rest. It helps rebuild the nutrients in the ground, so it doesn't get over worked. There are commonsense laws and then you have the levitical laws for sin and atonement.
Maybe if we listened to a few of them we wouldn't have GMO cancer causing foods laden with pesticides that kill millions.
Maybe if we followed just the basic.. get married then have kids, the population wouldn't explode, we wouldn't need so many hormones and antibiotics injected into our foods..

We could of and should of and still should take better care of the housing we been given. No matter how temporary it is.
If you can't take care of the little you have (talent) it will end up going to the one who can (10 talents) .

Grailhunter,
Much Love
I feel uneasy today..
If I sound argumentative please forgive me..
I'm not trying to be..
idk what it is..
just.. uneasy..
BIG HUGS

There is a humorous side to this.
Odds are good that you do not know the Ten Commandments.
The study of Old Testament law show in many cases it is a matter of common sense. But either way none are "laws" to Christians.

 

[Ziggy]

There is a humorous side to this.
Odds are good that you do not know the Ten Commandments.
The study of Old Testament law show in many cases it is a matter of common sense. But either way none are "laws" to Christians.

I see, and I hear you..

You say "laws" and I hear "principles" ..

I say, if we were to follow the "principles" laid out in the bible.. (I don't want to confuse with "law" )
then our living standards would be in better shape than they are.

Are we under law to do these principles?
1. in a way as good stewards of the earth we should be willing to apply them.
2. no, you reap what you sow. If the soil is overused and your produce is faulty, then there is no one to blame but the farmer.

maybe it's the very word "law" that is confused with principles and statutes and judgements.

Honour God
no false gods
honour your parents
keep the sabbath
dont kill
dont steal
don't commit adultery
don't bear false witness
the last two are both coveting.

I may not have them in the right order.. but I'm pretty sure off the top my head that's the 10 I'm refering to.

Hugs

 

[Grailhunter]

Are we under law to do these principles?

We are not under "any" Law. lol Like I said there are some common sense stuff, but we are not under the law and cannot violate the Old Testament laws...but there are some Old Testament laws that violate Christian beliefs. As Paul said, where there is no law, there is no violation.

In chapter 20 of Exodus, it lists 14 summary laws given at Mt. Sinai, not 10. Summary of laws, the full description of these laws are given later. Of these summary of laws a few are not observed by Christians. For example; the Old Testament Sabbath is on Saturday, Christians observe Sunday. The prohibition against images we blow out of the water…ie no pictures, paintings, statues, or TV or computers. No images of any kind or thing. We do not observe that. The prohibition on coveting list wives as the property of men…that is kind of no no in Christianity.

The Ten Commandments that God listed and told Moses to write on the two tablets…called the Tablets of the Testimony are listed in Chapter 34:10-28. In verses 27 and 28 God specifically define these as the “Ten Commandments” and the commandments that were actually wrote on the tablets and these are the laws that formed the covenant between God and His people.

Just one of many misconceptions of the Old Testament.

 

[Ziggy]

We are not under "any" Law. lol Like I said there are some common sense stuff, but we are not under the law and cannot violate the Old Testament laws...but there are some Old Testament laws that violate Christian beliefs. As Paul said, where there is no law, there is no violation.

In chapter 20 of Exodus, it lists 14 summary laws given at Mt. Sinai, not 10. Summary of laws, the full description of these laws are given later. Of these summary of laws a few are not observed by Christians. For example; the Old Testament Sabbath is on Saturday, Christians observe Sunday. The prohibition against images we blow out of the water…ie no pictures, paintings, statues, or TV or computers. No images of any kind or thing. We do not observe that. The prohibition on coveting list wives as the property of men…that is kind of no no in Christianity.

The Ten Commandments that God listed and told Moses to write on the two tablets…called the Tablets of the Testimony are listed in Chapter 34:10-28. In verses 27 and 28 God specifically define these as the “Ten Commandments” and the commandments that were actually wrote on the tablets and these are the laws that formed the covenant between God and His people.

Just one of many misconceptions of the Old Testament.

I am a christian. I observe the Sabbath.
I don't belong to Rome.
I belong to God.
I'm not arguing with you today.

MUCH LOVE
HUGS

 

[Grailhunter]

I am a christian. I observe the Sabbath.
I don't belong to Rome.
I belong to God.
I'm not arguing with you today.

MUCH LOVE
HUGS

Not trying to argue.
So do you go to church on Saturday?

 

[Ziggy]

Not trying to argue.
So do you go to church on Saturday?

I am here everyday.
But this day I spend in Worship and Praise in the Shabbat Shalom Thread.
I am not a Jew, I am not a Gentile. I am a child of God.
The meaning of Shabbat Shalom is:
When Jews say “Shabbat shalom – Sabbath peace” to family and friends after a draining work week, we mean far more than “have a peaceful and restful day.” What we are really saying is: May you be restored to wholeness on the blessed Sabbath!

It is my quiet place.
Come and see

Hugs

 

[Ziggy]

I am here everyday.
But this day I spend in Worship and Praise in the Shabbat Shalom Thread.
I am not a Jew, I am not a Gentile. I am a child of God.
The meaning of Shabbat Shalom is:
When Jews say “Shabbat shalom – Sabbath peace” to family and friends after a draining work week, we mean far more than “have a peaceful and restful day.” What we are really saying is: May you be restored to wholeness on the blessed Sabbath!

It is my quiet place.
Come and see

Hugs

SHABBAT SHALOM

 

[Grailhunter]

I am here everyday.
But this day I spend in Worship and Praise in the Shabbat Shalom Thread.
I am not a Jew, I am not a Gentile. I am a child of God.
The meaning of Shabbat Shalom is:
When Jews say “Shabbat shalom – Sabbath peace” to family and friends after a draining work week, we mean far more than “have a peaceful and restful day.” What we are really saying is: May you be restored to wholeness on the blessed Sabbath!

It is my quiet place.
Come and see

Hugs

Nothing wrong with that...lol
Do you observe Saturday and Sunday? Nothing wrong with that either.

 

[Ziggy]

Nothing wrong with that...lol
Do you observe Saturday and Sunday? Nothing wrong with that either.

Sundays I come here to just argue..

No, really.. Every day is a day the Lord has made. And I will rejoice and be glad in every one.
But on this day... It's special, sanctified and seperated from the others.
On this day our Lord rested in a tomb for me. And this day I am there beside him as he is beside me.. resting.

Tomorrow...
ALL HOLY HELL BREAKS LOOSE!!!

Just kidding..

I think


Hugs

 

[Grailhunter]

Sundays I come here to just argue..

lol belly roll lol

No, really.. Every day is a day the Lord has made. And I will rejoice and be glad in every one.
But on this day... It's special, sanctified and seperated from the others.
On this day our Lord rested in a tomb for me. And this day I am there beside him as he is beside me.. resting.

Kool