Illuminator
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These myths have been addressed in post#18.Beginning in the 12th century and continuing for hundreds of years, the Inquisition is infamous for the severity of its tortures and its persecution of Jews and Muslims.
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These myths have been addressed in post#18.Beginning in the 12th century and continuing for hundreds of years, the Inquisition is infamous for the severity of its tortures and its persecution of Jews and Muslims.
Inquisition simply means to inquire
the church has the duty to safeguard the faithful and the sacred deposit of faith against all error!
Sacred as in I heard it through the grape vine as oral traditons of the father . . law of the fathers. ? Or sacred as in all things writen in the law and the porphets (sola scriptura)the law of our one Holy father. No man can serve two teaching masters as our unseen Lord as God .
Which one wil you serve?
Teaching of Christ and His apostles!
Teachings of Christ alone. . . not of mankind..nothing.
His apostles are sent. Giving meaning to the word apostle . . sent with His teaching not their own private interpretation as a personal commentary, or oral traditions of the fathers that lord it over the non-venerable faith . .. Just as those today he sends them out two by two with the gospel the incorruptible seed by which men are born again.
It’s easy to see that the Catholic fathers (legion) have redefined the word apostle with a little searching of sola scriptura the Bible .That would seem to be when the divison has its beginning.
To redefine the word apostle violates the warning not to add new meaning to a word (singular) it is considered plagiarism it can change the outcome of the commandments (plural) and destroy the integrity of the one author (Christ)
Another warning not to add to the whole book of prophecy is seen at the end the last book Revelation . .together they work to protect the word of God from plagiarism . ( Did God not seen say you will die? Surely you will not look at me and live.
Deuteronomy 4: 2 Ye shall not add unto the word (singular) which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it (singular) , that ye may keep the commandments(plural) of the Lord your God which I command you.
As apostles today we can plant the born again gospel seed and water it with the doctrines of God, the water of the word. . that fall from above as the proper form of inspiration.Not inspired from earth Rome. .
But clearly if Christ does not work in a person to both reveal his will and empower them to perform it Then there is no conversions . Apostles are considered as nothing, nada. zip . The question I would ask is why would you puff up the apostles above that which is written (sola scriptura) .What’s the hope in the end of the matter ?
mentioning twice is used to emphasize the law not subject to change . . by a law of men called fathers .
1 Corinthians 3:6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.
As apostles today sent with the gospel we must continue to decrease as he increase .He is our one source of faith. Not a legion of fathers
It would seem you are preaching another gospel another Christ that you must call the Pope or what scripture calls a daysman.
Jesus Christ continues HIS ministry in His new covenant church thru Peter, the apostles, and their successors with the same mission, power, and authority!
Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Acts 1:17 acts 8:31 & 35 acts 9:4 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 15:5 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-22 eph 2:20
Lk 10:16
He who hears you hears me...
John 13:20
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.
Jn 20:21 as my father sent me, so send in you. (The apostles) posses the same power mission and authority as Christ!
Peter, the apostles and their successors!
read those verses carefully
I have read them and studied them .You are simply relying on the private interpretation of your sect seeking their approval as if they were the power that works in a believer .
Successors Hmmmm as if we serve a heirarchy of men and not the Holy Spirit that lives in each beliver..Did you forget the first century reformation came over 2000 years ago and another 500 years ago ?
Really and what power is that the power of Christ working in them to both will and do the good pleasure of the unseen father?
Do the apostles apply to the law below?
2 Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.
I read them the verses you offered there are no successors of Christ. One God not many gods . You simply changed the meaning of the word sent one into powerfull one .
Why do you puff up the apotles above that which is writen? What is your hope in a legion of fathers called patron saints as disembodied workers with a famailar spirit .Christians serve one unseen father not 3500 and rising.
Christians according to the word of God and not according to the law of your fathers in their bible of sacred to themeslves (CCC) Chriostians pray or seek after the manner he has given us .Our Father in heaven hallowed be His name not our patron saints in heaven hallowed be their names (3500 and rising) How many wil be enough ?
I think it's time to close this thread as well.
@Heart2Soul
Old manuscript discovered.
Manuscript discovered detailing Inquisition trials against Jews
Catholics naturally avoid discussing this dark chapter in their history. In addition to the demonic inquisitions, don't forget the crusades, the excommunications of those who dared oppose their doctrine, the slaughter of Native Americans (and others) who refused to succumb, the sexual abuse of children, and many other grotesque, sinful actions, all the while proclaiming themselves as the one true faith.