Catholics; Do You Believe This?

[Illuminator]

A . its not hate to warn against that which is false .
B . its not mental illness to do so .
C . the worlds leaders , as well as many churches within the protestant realm , i am sure would happily
offer up their medicine to me on why i ought to just UNIFY with a harlot .
And lastly , You are not the first to assume their headship is of GOD . And see any and all
who wont submit to such headship as being , what was the word , OH yeah mentally ill .
And you know what eventually happens to a society
when it believes a lie , they become hardened against the truth .
THEN they become very hardened and convince themselves that anyone who wont conform
WELL , You get the idea . THE SOCIETY COMETH AGAINST .
IT aint a new pattern either . The RCC has killed before , and many men who came in the name of peace
HAVE eventually done the same thing .
Right now , due to a UNITY LIE we are in a transition . FROM the TIME of bring them into the fold
and into the time of COME AGAINST ANYTHING THAT WONT .
Their love will soon be seen for what it always was . A love for power and control
and a deep hate against anything that would not conform .
ON that path there is only one outcome . Those who conformed to the lie
WILL COME AGAINST ALL who did not . And that time is fast approaching too .
The time of ecumincialism , of evangelising unto the world to gather as one under a harlot and
its liberal love induced ideals , is ending . But what soon replaces it
is a deep fear and hatred against all who conformed not .
But let me guess , you THINK THIS SO CALLED EVOLVED SOCIETY , this LIBERAL UTOPIA
is beyond that . YOUR WRONG . THEY GONNA KILL and they gonna do it thinking they DO GODS WILL .
Sorry to see you on their path . But dont worry about ol amigo . I Dont fear them at all .
Man can kill the body , BUT AINT NOTHING ELSE he can do to me .
And to be absent from this body , means only one thing to me , PARADISE WITH JESUS FOREVER .
You looking at a man , who though i do love the people , REFUSE to conform one dot to this wicked agenda .
You looking at a man who would rather die than to do so . SO , what to do with men like me .
Those who absolutely wont conform to societal views spread down through false religoins .
Well , a society that does such a thing , has always come for the blood of those who resisted .
Wont be any different . ONLY , KNOW THIS . By grace I AM on the right side
for my side is OF THE LORD . SO to me the socities of a liberal utopia can do to me as it pleases . I WONT CONFORM .
I will pray for those , however , who will persecute me . BUT CONFORM .............................NEVER .

The Pope tells us to follow Jesus, and you say we should not listen to the Pope out of religious sickness. The world hates the Catholic Church, and you are just another cog in that machine. The Church is not trying to unite all religions, that is a myth invented by hate cults. Catholic doctrine does not evolve, it develops, and development of doctrine, explained at least 20 times on this forum, is beyond your ability to comprehend, so you mock phantoms of your creation. There is no "liberal utopia", another one of your hateful inventions. You constantly mock what you refuse to understand. I think you have been poisoned by legions of prejudiced anti-Catholic bigots like Alexander Hislop, and uphold lies to be truth.
Again, you have no church and no pastor. You are your own pope in a church of one, passing ridiculous judgements out of ignorance and prejudice based on a pathological paranoia.
This is a forum, not a clinic. Amigo de christo will be ignored.

 

[Augustin56]

Saul (St. Paul by his Hebrew name) believed that Christianity was wrong, too. He went around persecuting and killing Christians because he was so sure they were wrong. Then, Jesus knocked him off of his (high) horse (literally) and said to him, "Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting Me?" (Acts 9:4) Note that Jesus didn't say, "...why are you persecuting My Church?" which he was, but "...why are you persecuting Me?" Christ identifies as one with His Church! Accuse Christ's Church of being false, and you accuse Christ of being false.

Historically, there is no older Church than the Catholic Church, and it's not even a close call!

St. Ignatius of Antioch, the bishop of Antioch ordained by the head Apostle, St. Peter, was captured by the Romans. While they were transporting him to be martyred for the faith, he wrote a letter to the Smyrnaeans around 107-110 A.D., referring to the "Catholic Church," not in such a manner as if he were coining the term, but in such a manner in which he fully expected the Smyrnaeans to understand what he was talking about.
It says in paragraph 8, "Where the bishop is present, there let the congregation gather, just as where Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church."
See the entire letter here: https://www.orderofstignatius.org/files/Letters/Ignatius_to_Smyrnaeans.pdf

The Orthodox splintered off in 1054 A.D. Watch this video for an academic explanation of what happened there:

Protestantism didn't begin until the 16th century! And it was started by an ex-Catholic monk, Martin Luther, on his own self-appointed authority. And it has continually splintered into numberless man-made, doctrinally contradicting denominations ever since, all based on individual personal interpretation of Scripture, which Scripture condemns in 2 Peter 1:20-21.

True authority is always given, not taken. Jesus (God) gave His authority to the Catholic Church, the first Church, and the only Church in the beginning! He gave no one else authority to found a different Church, with their own self-interpreted teachings, in defiance and contradiction to the deposit of faith that He handed to the Apostles, who likewise handed them down to their successors, the bishops, who have done likewise for 2000 years now!

 

[Illuminator]

Saul (St. Paul by his Hebrew name) believed that Christianity was wrong, too. He went around persecuting and killing Christians because he was so sure they were wrong. Then, Jesus knocked him off of his (high) horse (literally) and said to him, "Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting Me?" (Acts 9:4) Note that Jesus didn't say, "...why are you persecuting My Church?" which he was, but "...why are you persecuting Me?" Christ identifies as one with His Church! Accuse Christ's Church of being false, and you accuse Christ of being false.

Historically, there is no older Church than the Catholic Church, and it's not even a close call!

St. Ignatius of Antioch, the bishop of Antioch ordained by the head Apostle, St. Peter, was captured by the Romans. While they were transporting him to be martyred for the faith, he wrote a letter to the Smyrnaeans around 107-110 A.D., referring to the "Catholic Church," not in such a manner as if he were coining the term, but in such a manner in which he fully expected the Smyrnaeans to understand what he was talking about.
It says in paragraph 8, "Where the bishop is present, there let the congregation gather, just as where Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church."
See the entire letter here: https://www.orderofstignatius.org/files/Letters/Ignatius_to_Smyrnaeans.pdf

The Anglican J.B. Lightfoot, no great fan of Catholic (whom he terms “Romanists”) nevertheless concedes that “throughout the thirteen (Ignatian) letters the same doctrines are maintained, the same heresies assailed, and the same theological terms employed. In this respect no difference can be traced between the two sets of epistles.” So while there may have been theological reasons (responding to the Apollinarian or Arian heresies) for the forgery of the additional 6 letters, nothing theological (between Catholics and Protestants) turns on these spurious letters. Anything that Protestants would object to in the six false letters is also found in the seven genuine letters.

In other words, the fact that the Middle Recension is authentic should give Protestants serious pause, since it disproves many Protestant theories about the nature of the early Church.
read more here

 

[Augustin56]

The Anglican J.B. Lightfoot, no great fan of Catholic (whom he terms “Romanists”) nevertheless concedes that “throughout the thirteen (Ignatian) letters the same doctrines are maintained, the same heresies assailed, and the same theological terms employed. In this respect no difference can be traced between the two sets of epistles.” So while there may have been theological reasons (responding to the Apollinarian or Arian heresies) for the forgery of the additional 6 letters, nothing theological (between Catholics and Protestants) turns on these spurious letters. Anything that Protestants would object to in the six false letters is also found in the seven genuine letters.

In other words, the fact that the Middle Recension is authentic should give Protestants serious pause, since it disproves many Protestant theories about the nature of the early Church.
read more here

I find that Protestants in general don't have a handle on history and are wont to either create or buy into revisionist history in order to try to continue to justify their opposition to Christ's Church.