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It's past time when the President should have invoked the insurrection act.
Chaos in Minnesota...ICE agents attacked, protester shot
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True since the mayor and governor aren't doing anything. They are stopping police action. I guess they like this chaos taking away from the massive fraud committed in their State.
Of course the liberals will jump on President Trump if he does it. But these mobs are lawless.
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Two things are true in Minnesota. Massive fraud and a concentration of illegals.
I heard one propagandist complain that ICE is a pretext and has nothing to do with fraud. Even if true, there are 2 problems the federal government has to deal with.
mailmandan
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These folks are deranged, barbaric and demonic! It's going to take a civil war to clean up the mess in America!
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We should be peace makers, not war mongers. We should calm such situations, not escalating it with such claims.
mailmandan
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Even though I continue to pray hard for America
this is the cold hard reality we are facing. I said it's going to take a civil war to clean up the mess in America and not that I plan of starting a civil war. I was just making a point about how far America has fallen. This is very serious! Don't underestimate the evil of these folks who hate America and hate Christians and defend criminals! I apologize if I sounded like a war monger. I am much more of a peace maker but there is a time for war, but I'll leave that up to God.Ecclesiastes 3
1 To everything there is a season,
A time for every purpose under heaven:
2 A time to be born,
And a time to die;
A time to plant,
And a time to pluck what is planted;
3 A time to kill,
And a time to heal;
A time to break down,
And a time to build up;
4 A time to weep,
And a time to laugh;
A time to mourn,
And a time to dance;
5 A time to cast away stones,
And a time to gather stones;
A time to embrace,
And a time to refrain from embracing;
6 A time to gain,
And a time to lose;
A time to keep,
And a time to throw away;
7 A time to tear,
And a time to sew;
A time to keep silence,
And a time to speak;
8 A time to love,
And a time to hate;
A time of war,
And a time of peace.
What we post, what we say about other people, creates the situation that we have. "They" hate xyz, "they" are evil etc. is the mentality that makes the situation in the US so escalated and polarized. We think in "good vs evil" (we are the good, of course and the others are always the "evil", never the other way around).Even though I continue to pray hard for America
Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God.
Mt 5:9
The New Testament Christianity is quite different from the Old Testament Israel. What do you think overcomes the world/evil? Weapons or our faith?
mailmandan
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These folks who promote lawlessness need Jesus. Let's continue to pray hard for the healing of America.
Is that better? 
mailmandan
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Trump admin preparing 1,500 soldiers for potential Minnesota deployment: report
Trump admin preparing 1,500 soldiers for potential Minnesota deployment
The Trump administration is reportedly preparing 1,500 troops for potential deployment in Minnesota amid anti-ICE protests in the Twin Cities.
Yes, it's that bad.
When you eliminate bad actors, there are many waiting and willing to take their place.Trump admin preparing 1,500 soldiers for potential Minnesota deployment: report
Trump admin preparing 1,500 soldiers for potential Minnesota deployment
The Trump administration is reportedly preparing 1,500 troops for potential deployment in Minnesota amid anti-ICE protests in the Twin Cities.www.foxnews.com
Yes, it's that bad.
AIDS, while killing many homosexuals did nothing to stop their numbers from growing.
Some politics is like gangrene, there is no cure till Christ returns and destroys in flaming fire all the wicked and unbelieving
Bible Gateway passage: 2 Thessalonians 1 - 21st Century King James Version
Paul, and Silvanus, and Timothy, Unto the church of the Thessalonians in God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace unto you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. We are bound to thank God always for you, brethren, as it is meet, because your faith groweth exceedingly...
Paul, and Silvanus, and Timothy, Unto the church of the Thessalonians in God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ:
2 Grace unto you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
3 We are bound to thank God always for you, brethren, as it is meet, because your faith groweth exceedingly, and the charity of every one of you all toward each other aboundeth,
4 so that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all persecutions and tribulations that ye endure,
5 which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the Kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer.
6 For it is a righteous thing with God to recompense with tribulation those who trouble you;
7 and to you who are troubled, rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from Heaven with His mighty angels,
8 in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who know not God, and who obey not the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.
9 These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power,
10 when He shall come on that Day to be glorified in His saints and to be admired in all those who believe, because our testimony among you was believed.
11 Therefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfill all the good pleasure of His goodness and the work of faith with power,
12 that the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and ye in Him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.
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Senator Kennedy of Louisiana said that he believes in love - but wants a gun, just in case.
David in NJ
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Army Battalions Ordered to Prepare for Minneapolis
Soldiers are on standby after Trump's threat to invoke Insurrection Act
i HOPE Trump sends them into every city to root out shariah law and criminals
David in NJ
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When you eliminate bad actors, there are many waiting and willing to take their place.
AIDS, while killing many homosexuals did nothing to stop their numbers from growing.
Some politics is like gangrene, there is no cure till Christ returns and destroys in flaming fire all the wicked and unbelieving
Bible Gateway passage: 2 Thessalonians 1 - 21st Century King James Version
Paul, and Silvanus, and Timothy, Unto the church of the Thessalonians in God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace unto you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. We are bound to thank God always for you, brethren, as it is meet, because your faith groweth exceedingly...www.biblegateway.com
Paul, and Silvanus, and Timothy, Unto the church of the Thessalonians in God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ:
2 Grace unto you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
3 We are bound to thank God always for you, brethren, as it is meet, because your faith groweth exceedingly, and the charity of every one of you all toward each other aboundeth,
4 so that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all persecutions and tribulations that ye endure,
5 which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the Kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer.
6 For it is a righteous thing with God to recompense with tribulation those who trouble you;
7 and to you who are troubled, rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from Heaven with His mighty angels,
8 in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who know not God, and who obey not the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.
9 These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power,
10 when He shall come on that Day to be glorified in His saints and to be admired in all those who believe, because our testimony among you was believed.
11 Therefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfill all the good pleasure of His goodness and the work of faith with power,
12 that the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and ye in Him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.
The numbers grew because no one REPENTED = to this Day!!!
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.
But the rest of mankind, who were not killed by these plagues, did not repent of the works of their hands, that they should not worship demons, and idols of gold, silver, brass, stone, and wood, which can neither see nor hear nor walk. And they did not repent of their murders or their sorceries or their sexual immorality or their thefts.
You know the same thing happened before the flood of Noah, Noah preached righteousness for years and years, and they did not repent either. Then the flood came and swept them all away, taking them to destruction.
Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 24 - 21st Century King James Version
And Jesus went out and departed from the temple, and His disciples came to Him to show Him the buildings of the temple. And Jesus said unto them, "See ye not all these things? Verily I say unto you, there shall not be left here one stone upon another that shall not be thrown down." And as He sat...
37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of Man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark
39 and knew not until the flood came and took them all away, so shall also the coming of the Son of Man be.
They did not know Him, they knew not the ways of the Lord, they did not even suspect the Lord was about to judge them to the death.
Today, is the same as that day from ancient times.
cast them into a furnace of fire!
Luke 3:17
His winnowing fan is in His hand, and He will thoroughly purge His floor and will gather the wheat into His garner; but the chaff He will burn with fire unquenchable.”
Matthew 3:10
And now also the ax is laid unto the root of the trees; therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down and cast into the fire.
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40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire, so shall it be at the end of this world.
41 The Son of Man shall send forth His angels, and they shall gather out of His Kingdom all things that offend and them that do iniquity,
42 and shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the Kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
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6 For it is a righteous thing with God to recompense with tribulation those who trouble you;
7 and to you who are troubled, rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from Heaven with His mighty angels,
8 in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who know not God, and who obey not the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.
9 These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power,
10 when He shall come on that Day to be glorified in His saints and to be admired in all those who believe, because our testimony among you was believed.
Luke 3:17
His winnowing fan is in His hand, and He will thoroughly purge His floor and will gather the wheat into His garner; but the chaff He will burn with fire unquenchable.”
Matthew 3:10
And now also the ax is laid unto the root of the trees; therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down and cast into the fire.
Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 13 - 21st Century King James Version
The same day, Jesus went out of the house and sat by the seaside. And great multitudes were gathered together unto Him, so that He went into a boat and sat, and the whole multitude stood on the shore. And He spoke many things unto them in parables, saying, "Behold, a sower went forth to sow. And...
41 The Son of Man shall send forth His angels, and they shall gather out of His Kingdom all things that offend and them that do iniquity,
42 and shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the Kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.
Bible Gateway passage: 2 Thessalonians 1 - 21st Century King James Version
Paul, and Silvanus, and Timothy, Unto the church of the Thessalonians in God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace unto you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. We are bound to thank God always for you, brethren, as it is meet, because your faith groweth exceedingly...
7 and to you who are troubled, rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from Heaven with His mighty angels,
8 in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who know not God, and who obey not the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.
9 These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power,
10 when He shall come on that Day to be glorified in His saints and to be admired in all those who believe, because our testimony among you was believed.
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This is the propaganda falsehood that feeds the violent people in MN and elsewhere.
It is illegal for an alien,a non-citizen,to be in America without documents.
It is not illegal to be a citizen who is not carrying ID.
Big Boy Johnson
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Under Federal Law the first time someone sneaks across the boarder to enter the US illegally (they did not come in thru legal channels) it is a misdemeanor and the feds have the legal right to apprehend this person and deport them.
If they sneak across the board again, that's a felony under Federal Law and the feds have the legal right to apprehend this person and deport them.
The US needs to do what many other countries do which is before deporting them make them spend a few months if not a year or two in prison to teach them the error of their ways in sneaking across the boarder which is illegal under Federal Law
Jesus did tell His followers to obtain a weapon.
We don't trust in weapons, but using one for self defense is not a sin although it should be used as a last resort
Many undocumented people in US have committed no criminal offenses and there cases are usually handled in civil courts, not criminal. Others are guilty of misdemeanors and others, felonies. Not everyone who is in the US without documentation, or who came here illegally, can't be lumped into one basket. That's what Kristi Noem and Stephen Miller want to do. But that's a violation of current immigration laws. The punishment should fit the crime; even the Bible recognizes that.
They can all be lumped into one basket. They entered into the US illegally and this is a crime. It is also a slap in the face to all of the immigrants who followed the law and entered legally.
Jesus also tell His followers to not resist an evil person and if somebody slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. How do you chose which verses to follow?
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