Chaos in Minnesota...ICE agents attacked, protester shot

[SavedInHim]

They can all be lumped into one basket. They entered into the US illegally and this is a crime. It is also a slap in the face to all of the immigrants who followed the law and entered legally.

That's just your opinion, the law isn't on your side.

 

[shepherdsword]

That's just your opinion, the law isn't on your side.

I beg to differ.

U.S. law treats unauthorized presence and entry as violations under Title 8 of the U.S. Code, primarily 8 U.S.C. § 1325 (illegal entry, a misdemeanor) and § 1326 (illegal re-entry after deportation, a felony with harsher penalties, especially after prior convictions). Key provisions criminalize unlawful entry between ports of entry, making false statements, and re-entry after removal, while other laws address harboring, smuggling, and employment of unauthorized aliens, with enforcement by agencies like DHS, ICE, and CBP.
Enforcement & Consequences
Agencies: DHS (including ICE & CBP) enforce these laws.
Removal Proceedings: Individuals without legal status face removal, potentially through expedited removal.

 

[SavedInHim]

I beg to differ.

Thanks, you just made my case: Not all incidents of unauthorized presence are the same; some are misdemeanors and some are felonies. Some are neither, but are only civil matters handled in civil courts, not criminal.

 

[shepherdsword]

Thanks, you just made my case: Not all incidents of unauthorized presence are the same; some are misdemeanors and some are felonies. Some are neither, but are only civil matters handled in civil courts, not criminal.

Where do you see "some are neither"?

Did you totally ignore this part?

Removal Proceedings: Individuals without legal status face removal, potentially through expedited removal.

 

[David in NJ]

Many undocumented people in US have committed no criminal offenses and there cases are usually handled in civil courts, not criminal. Others are guilty of misdemeanors and others, felonies. Not everyone who is in the US without documentation, or who came here illegally, can't be lumped into one basket. That's what Kristi Noem and Stephen Miller want to do. But that's a violation of current immigration laws. The punishment should fit the crime; even the Bible recognizes that.

They are here ILLEGALLY and thus should be deported - except for certain conditions by which they should remain here.

They are committing crimes when they:
#1 - take work away from US Citizens
#2 - create a tax burden upon US Citizens
#3 - get FREE handouts which are DEPRIVED from US Veterans and US Citizens
#4 - become a Illegal Voting Block for the evil Democratz

 

[mailmandan]

10 years later the democrats hate him. Its the same Tom but a different democratic party.

 

[Wrangler]

Many undocumented people in US have committed no criminal offenses

Incorrect. By entering the country, not without documents as the PC puts it, illegal entry, they have committed a crime. They are, by definition, a criminal.

 

[Wrangler]

10 years later the democrats hate him. Its the same Tom but a different democratic party.

Aint that the truth!

 

[mailmandan]

This is the propaganda falsehood that feeds the violent people in MN and elsewhere.

It is illegal for an alien,a non-citizen,to be in America without documents.

It is not illegal to be a citizen who is not carrying ID.

Where is HealthyShape for post #219?

We should be peace makers, not war mongers. We should calm such situations, not escalating it with such claims.

 

[Scott Downey]

Jesus also tell His followers to not resist an evil person and if somebody slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. How do you chose which verses to follow?

Context is important to that, and the understanding is in v37, for Jesus to be recognized as among the transgressors, involves obtaining a sword, to fulfill the things spoken of Him. Nothing about it being acceptable spiritually to go out and by a sword in the New Covenant time.

For I say unto you that this that is written must yet be accomplished in Me: ‘And He was reckoned among the transgressors.’ For the things concerning Me have an end.”

Bible Gateway passage: Luke 22 - 21st Century King James Version

Now the Feast of Unleavened Bread drew nigh, which is called the Passover. And the chief priests and scribes sought how they might kill Him, for they feared the people. Then entered Satan into Judas, surnamed Iscariot, being one of the twelve. And he went his way and communed with the chief...

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36 Then said He unto them, “But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it and likewise his pack; and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one.

37 For I say unto you that this that is written must yet be accomplished in Me: ‘And He was reckoned among the transgressors.’ For the things concerning Me have an end.”

38 And they said, “Lord, behold, here are two swords.” And He said unto them, “It is enough.”

 

[Wrangler]

We should be peace makers, not war mongers. We should calm such situations, not escalating it with such claims.

You mean like Jesus flipping over tables and whipping at people?

 

[HealthyShape]

You mean like Jesus flipping over tables and whipping at people?

No. Some Christians still cannot distinguish between following the teachings of Jesus and copying Jesus.

We cannot repeat the situations Jesus was in, so we can not just repeat what Jesus did here or there.

 

[HealthyShape]

Where is HealthyShape for post #219?

:) I am not reading everything, just some new posts on the home page, occasionally

 

[Michiah-Imla]

Liberal lunatics are ignorant of the word of God. If they had any true wisdom they would take heed to this warning:

“For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.” (Romans 13:4)

ICE, please continue to execute wrath on these lawless morons.

 

[HealthyShape]

Liberal lunatics are ignorant of the word of God. If they had any true wisdom they would take heed to this warning:

“For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.” (Romans 13:4)

ICE, please continue to execute wrath on these lawless morons.

What a great Christian post, full of compassion and love towards somebody who was killed without a good reason. And if something is worse than a bad Christian, then it is when they even quote Bible to support their stone heart and hatred.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

What a great Christian post, full of compassion and love towards somebody who was killed

Any thoughts on the scripture that I posted supporting my post?

Or does scripture even matter to you.

 

[HealthyShape]

Any thoughts on the scripture that I posted supporting my post?

Or does scripture even matter to you.

Yes, my thoughts are that you have no understanding of that. Nero was the emperor when Paul wrote that. If you do not see the irony in the text, I do not know what you want to make of it. That Nero was a good servant of God? He even killed Paul for preaching Christ.

Study what the crazy Nero, the Beast full of all blasphemies, was doing.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

Yes, my thoughts are that you have no understanding of that

Ofcourse…

 

[HealthyShape]

Ofcourse…

Cool, a meme picture. Ok.

 

[Wrangler]

No. Some Christians still cannot distinguish between following the teachings of Jesus and copying Jesus.

We cannot repeat the situations Jesus was in, so we can not just repeat what Jesus did here or there.

Projecting. Time is past flipping over tables and whipping at people.