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amigo de christo

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YES and it is scary!!!
The time cometh and even now is
when the false will be seen as the loving ones who belong to GOD
and the true sheep as nothing more than haters , monsters , no less dangerous than even ISIS itself .
IF you want you can copy this for a later date . cause we will soon see this ourselves .
THIS generation has been totally lulled to sleep with a piper who has piped a dream
of a utopia for all , a love for all , tolerance and justice for all
CEPT The sheep of course , its naught but GO ON get outta here you hater
and soon its not just gonna be words against us
And soon it wont just be them pushing the few outta even their churches
THIS WORLD is worn down and this big skirmish in the middle east right now
Is and will be used to usher in the WE GOTS TO GET PEACE NOW MINDSET .
INTERFIATH and the lie WILL be the solution . Jerusalem is now inhabitated again
and is now the center piece wherein the final solution cometh
THE HARLOT has not slept she has well prepared the false religons and sadly a whole lotta christendom
RIGHT TO THAT FINAL HOUR OF Upmost rebellion and she will convince them
OF the dire necessity , of the solution that it is necessary to rid this earth .
But rid this earth of who .................
THE SHEEP THAT DID NOT CONFORM .
 

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The time cometh and even now is
when the false will be seen as the loving ones who belong to GOD
and the true sheep as nothing more than haters , monsters , no less dangerous than even ISIS itself .
IF you want you can copy this for a later date . cause we will soon see this ourselves .
THIS generation has been totally lulled to sleep with a piper who has piped a dream
of a utopia for all , a love for all , tolerance and justice for all
CEPT The sheep of course , its naught but GO ON get outta here you hater
and soon its not just gonna be words against us
And soon it wont just be them pushing the few outta even their churches
THIS WORLD is worn down and this big skirmish in the middle east right now
Is and will be used to usher in the WE GOTS TO GET PEACE NOW MINDSET .
INTERFIATH and the lie WILL be the solution . Jerusalem is now inhabitated again
and is now the center piece wherein the final solution cometh
THE HARLOT has not slept she has well prepared the false religons and sadly a whole lotta christendom
RIGHT TO THAT FINAL HOUR OF Upmost rebellion and she will convince them
OF the dire necessity , of the solution that it is necessary to rid this earth .
But rid this earth of who .................
THE SHEEP THAT DID NOT CONFORM .
This is the most dangerous aspect of satan = deception that calls good evil and evil good
 

amigo de christo

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This is the most dangerous aspect of satan = deception that calls good evil and evil good
Yes it is my friend . And what terrifies me for so many is
ITS ALL OVER even christendom .
Has satan not made the GOD of the old test look evil , HIS WORDS cast out
THE JESUS and HIS words seem as though HE be a liar
As they follow another jesus all together . MANY have no idea
That if one examines the bible well
THEY HAD SEEN todays version of GOD , of what they see as GOD
IS SEEN AT THE TREE and tempted eve and later tried to tempt Christ
And the version of satan in the bible that has always come in as HE doeth what is best for you
and uses scrips but twists them they see as GOD NOW .
THE BIBLE is despised , TRUTH has been cast down and out of many places
And this people just blindly follows the blind who follow the dark one right to perditoin .
 
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Yes it is my friend . And what terrifies me for so many is
ITS ALL OVER even christendom .
Has satan not made the GOD of the old test look evil , HIS WORDS cast out
THE JESUS and HIS words seem as though HE be a liar
As they follow another jesus all together . MANY have no idea
That if one examines the bible well
THEY HAD SEEN todays version of GOD , of what they see as GOD
IS SEEN AT THE TREE and tempted eve and later tried to tempt Christ
And the version of satan in the bible that has always come in as HE doeth what is best for you
and uses scrips but twists them they see as GOD NOW .
THE BIBLE is despised , TRUTH has been cast down and out of many places
And this people just blindly follows the blind who follow the dark one right to perditoin .
Have you noticed the latest "revelation" ?

People claiming they have been born-again but not by Jesus but only from the 'Spirit'..........
 

amigo de christo

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Have you noticed the latest "revelation" ?

People claiming they have been born-again but not by Jesus but only from the 'Spirit'..........
I Seen words that amounted to that .
In fact ya wanna know from whence it came . INCLUSIVISM .
it teaches that anyone , not just beleivers in CHRIST
can actually be born again OF the SPIRIT . what a lie that is .
Saying things and implying things like
hey there are spirit filled muslims doing good works and loving their neighbor
That are BORN of the SPIRIT , and they do this with all religoins .
I tried so long to warn us about inclusivity and from whence it came .
HERE IS WHO IS BORN AGAIN .
we will let JOHN say it in the fifth chapter .
HE who beleives JESUS IS THE CHRIST IS BORN of GOD .
not the unbeleiver . IN fact
what did paul say about THE SPIRIT .
NO MAN BY THE SPIRIT can call JESUS accursed . YET ALL THEM false religoins sure do as does the athiest too .
AND only BY THE SPIRIT can one call HIM LORD .
SO much for this other junk pile they try and sell us . WE SHEEP dont BUY LIES
SHEEP BUY THE TRUTH and SELL HER NOT .
 

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Have you noticed the latest "revelation" ?

People claiming they have been born-again but not by Jesus but only from the 'Spirit'..........
AND JUST WHO IS THE SPIRIT . these people have zero idea at all anymore .
AS IF ,
WHO IS , not what is , WHO IS THE SPIRIT . GOD IS , CHRIST IS
so how are they born again by a spirit BUT NOT JESUS . exactly . someone been lying to this people . sadly it seems
many love to have it so .
 
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Have you noticed the latest "revelation" ?

People claiming they have been born-again but not by Jesus but only from the 'Spirit'..........
What is THE SPIRIT OF PROPHECY . THE TESTIMONY OF WHO , OF JESUS THE CHRIST .
let no man add too or take from that .
Seems odd that today so many seem to sit under so called prophets with so called revelations
ONLY THEM SO CALLED PROPHECIES , SO CALLED REVELTAIONS
SURE DONT TESTIFY OF JESUS THE CHRIST . at most of another jesus which sure pumps out lies .
WHICH darn sure AINT JESUS .
HERE is a REVELATION . THEY should actually read the bible to learn
and read all of it , even revelation . AND REMEMBER what cometh upon a man WHO ADDS TOO OR TAKES
FROM HIS WORDS . cause that DONT END WELL for such a person at all .
 

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What is THE SPIRIT OF PROPHECY . THE TESTIMONY OF WHO , OF JESUS THE CHRIST .
let no man add too or take from that .
Seems odd that today so many seem to sit under so called prophets with so called revelations
ONLY THEM SO CALLED PROPHECIES , SO CALLED REVELTAIONS
SURE DONT TESTIFY OF JESUS THE CHRIST . at most of another jesus which sure pumps out lies .
WHICH darn sure AINT JESUS .
HERE is a REVELATION . THEY should actually read the bible to learn
and read all of it , even revelation . AND REMEMBER what cometh upon a man WHO ADDS TOO OR TAKES
FROM HIS WORDS . cause that DONT END WELL for such a person at all .
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I Seen words that amounted to that .
In fact ya wanna know from whence it came . INCLUSIVISM .
it teaches that anyone , not just beleivers in CHRIST
can actually be born again OF the SPIRIT . what a lie that is .
Saying things and implying things like
hey there are spirit filled muslims doing good works and loving their neighbor
That are BORN of the SPIRIT , and they do this with all religoins .
I tried so long to warn us about inclusivity and from whence it came .
HERE IS WHO IS BORN AGAIN .
we will let JOHN say it in the fifth chapter .
HE who beleives JESUS IS THE CHRIST IS BORN of GOD .
not the unbeleiver . IN fact
what did paul say about THE SPIRIT .
NO MAN BY THE SPIRIT can call JESUS accursed . YET ALL THEM false religoins sure do as does the athiest too .
AND only BY THE SPIRIT can one call HIM LORD .
SO much for this other junk pile they try and sell us . WE SHEEP dont BUY LIES
SHEEP BUY THE TRUTH and SELL HER NOT .
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Yes it is my friend . And what terrifies me for so many is
ITS ALL OVER even christendom .
Has satan not made the GOD of the old test look evil , HIS WORDS cast out
THE JESUS and HIS words seem as though HE be a liar
As they follow another jesus all together . MANY have no idea
That if one examines the bible well
THEY HAD SEEN todays version of GOD , of what they see as GOD
IS SEEN AT THE TREE and tempted eve and later tried to tempt Christ
And the version of satan in the bible that has always come in as HE doeth what is best for you
and uses scrips but twists them they see as GOD NOW .
THE BIBLE is despised , TRUTH has been cast down and out of many places
And this people just blindly follows the blind who follow the dark one right to perditoin .
@amigo de christo
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Seems that biblical understanding has more to do with religious upbringing and environment than the content of the Bible.

I imagine that a young Catholic learns that Mary is the Mother of God based on the statement of the angel,
“Greetings, you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you.” - Luke 1:28 NIV

I was raised Protestant, so I am only guessing at how that actually happens in Catholicism.
But obviously an environment with statues of Mary and Rosary beads has a lot of impact on the meaning.
This creates a religious preconception.

As a Protestant, we read past that statement without dwelling on it much.
To us, it was a story about Jesus and his earthly mother. This also creates a religious preconception.

As the young person, whether Catholic or Protestant, matures in their religious upbringing,
these compounded preconceptions form a doctrinal understanding. A basis to work from; a point of view.

When this maturing person hears something outside the realm of their religious preconception it strikes them as wrong.

Apologetics are there to bolster one's own religious preconceptions. They have theirs, and you have yours.
This is where the battle lines are drawn. "We believe such and so, because..."

It's easy to identify a religious cult. They meet in the church across the street from your church.
And they feel the same way about you. --- Where does this leave us?

Choice of doctrine is driven by religious preconception - Spirituality is an individualized journey

Aren't you leaving out something rather in important in your calculation above, namely, the Holy Spirit? Yes, those who aren't indwelt by the Spirit may take up various doctrinal beliefs by a sort of religious osmosis, unconsciously imbibing the beliefs of family and whatever religious culture within which they've been brought up. This happens all the time. But what of the ministry of the Holy Spirit who "convicts the world of sin, righteousness and judgment" (Jn. 16:8), and teaches God's Truth to those in whom he dwells (Jn. 14:26; 16:13; 1 Co. 2:10-16), and transforms his "temples" (1 Co. 3:16; 6:19-20) into "living letters of Christ" (2 Co. 3:3)? In doing so, he must overcome some of the deepest, most powerful parts of who we are: Our fundamental desires, our self-conception, our worldview, our pride, and so on. Surely, if he can do all this in bringing us to Christ and redemption, he can dissolve our faulty inherited beliefs, our denominational prejudices, and institute new, properly biblical ones in their place, right?

I agree that Christian apologetics serve to justify belief. But not all justifications are equal. We have laws of logic, principles of reason and evidence, hermeneutical rules, and the plain statements of God's word by which to assess which apologetic for which belief succeeds and which doesn't. Certainly, not every proposed apologetic for some particular belief does well what it is meant to do. In fact, more often than not, I encounter very poor justifications for belief rather than good ones.

The particular route each person follows to deep, holy, joyful fellowship with God is unique to them, but the destination is, for all of God's children, the same. In other words, whatever the me-specific features of my journey to God, it is toward God I'm moving and so, the longer and deeper my walk with Him, the more my experience with God will parallel that of other believers whose walk with God is also long and deep. We are, after all, being conformed to the image of Christ (Ro. 8:29; 2 Co. 3:18; 4:7-11), not being increasingly individuated. So, the spiritual experience of every believer may begin with a wide divergence from one another but will inevitably narrow and converge upon the same Person.

I think of it this way: People may travel from all over the world to the city of New York. But though they may begin their journey from widely-separated locations, some in Africa, others in Asia, still others from, say, Peru, or Siberia, they all arrive at the same place: New York. So, too, with those who walk with God. As they each move nearer to Him relationally, they all find themselves having the same experiences of Him and understanding the same Truths that shape and facilitate such an experience.
 

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This is the most dangerous aspect of satan = deception that calls good evil and evil good
Yesterday is gone , Today is and tomorrow is not gauranteed .
TODAY is the day TO TRENCH onwards in the LORD .
Contenders of the faith .............MOUNT UP , ITS JESUS PREACHING TIME .
Time to speak truth . On those feet solider , its a war for the souls of men .
 

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Aren't you leaving out something rather in important in your calculation above, namely, the Holy Spirit?
Certainly.
My point is for people to realize the role played by their upbringing and GROW past it.
And also to be more understanding of how others upbringing effected them.
Hopefully the Spirit will make us MORE accepting of others and less critical.

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