Christ has already returned ?

[rockytopva]

People who look for Christ's appearing are a higher called people...

2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure. - 1 John 3

Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing. - 2 Timothy 4:8

 

[MatthewG]

Thanks for replying. I don't see Hebrews 9:28 as saying that Jesus will only be seen by those who eagerly wait fore Him, but that He will appear to complete the salvation (by taking them to the place He has prepared for them) of those who eagerly wait for Him:

(Heb 9:28) so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation.

I'm sorry, but I don't agree that Revelation 1:7 is saying that only some eyes will see Him. Why would all the kindreds of the earth mourn because of Him if to most of them His return was not seen?

(Rev 1:7) Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

You can believe however you want about it. I’m sharing with you how I see it.

We are all gonna die eventually and meet with God and I believe also see Yeshua.

 

[MatthewG]

Thanks for replying. I don't see Hebrews 9:28 as saying that Jesus will only be seen by those who eagerly wait fore Him, but that He will appear to complete the salvation (by taking them to the place He has prepared for them) of those who eagerly wait for Him:

(Heb 9:28) so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation.

I'm sorry, but I don't agree that Revelation 1:7 is saying that only some eyes will see Him. Why would all the kindreds of the earth mourn because of Him if to most of them His return was not seen?

(Rev 1:7) Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

Earth doesn’t always mean the whole earth it just means the land of that area. The kindreds there was the tribes. And the gentile and Jewish people who believed in Yeshua are rescued from the wrath of God. @David Lamb

 

[David Lamb]

You can believe however you want about it. I’m sharing with you how I see it.

We are all gonna die eventually and meet with God and I believe also see Yeshua.

Thanks for that. I hope you didn't take my earlier post as in any way hateful - that certainly wasn't intended.

 

[MatthewG]

Thanks for that. I hope you didn't take my earlier post as in any way hateful - that certainly wasn't intended.

I don’t take any of this as hatred. Some people dislike what I teach, but that’s beside the point. We’re called to love, and if someone disagrees with me, that’s their choice. In the end, we’re all headed toward the same destination — death, resurrection, and standing before God.

Some people don’t want to be with Him, and Scripture says they’ll remain outside the kingdom. As for me, I want to live at peace with all people. The only thing I personally reject is the condemning attitude of those who try to bully or act superior.

That kind of spirit reminds me of the “den of thieves” — people who take, control, and elevate themselves instead of walking in humility and truth.

 

[David Lamb]

I don’t take any of this as hatred. Some people dislike what I teach, but that’s beside the point. We’re called to love, and if someone disagrees with me, that’s their choice. In the end, we’re all headed toward the same destination — death, resurrection, and standing before God.

Some people don’t want to be with Him, and Scripture says they’ll remain outside the kingdom. As for me, I want to live at peace with all people. The only thing I personally reject is the condemning attitude of those who try to bully or act superior.

That kind of spirit reminds me of the “den of thieves” — people who take, control, and elevate themselves instead of walking in humility and truth.

Thanks Matthew!