Christian Nationalism

[amigo de christo]

Yea sister, there is peace and goodwill on earth toward men in the hearts of those on earth who know and follow Jesus. It has always only been about a remnant.....a few who find the narrow way that leads to life, not the many on the broad way that leads to destruction. Your "inspiration" is not of God and not according to truth....it is your own emotions riding on a high horse.

Do you know what Mystery Babylon, Mother of Harlots, riding the beast is a picture of? It is a picture of, first, spiritually adulterous Israel in bed with the world (Rome) leading to her destruction by Rome in 70AD............and now in the time of the Gentiles what has been will be again, and it is the mostly Gentile church in bed with the world, its kingdoms. But the beast will turn on her once he gets done using her, just like in the 1st century. Perhaps then some will wake up and buy gold refined in the fire and there will be revival among them. Saved so as by fire..? I pray so.

She has power and influence over the nations , over the govts . Its her cup of fornication
being poured upon this world .
And unto all whose hopes were and are in the earthen , in this world , in men ,
THEY AINT GONNA MAKE IT SISTER .
Only deception and g reater deception awaits them .
And at their end they will know , will understand , OH DEAR did we get duped
as wailing begins and they are told depart from ME i NEVER KNEW YOU .
I know , i know sister its a grave warning . BUT THEY NEED THIS and much much more .
Too much gravy has been p oured upon this people and they can no longer
discern TRUTH for all the gravy of smooth talkers in their eyes .
SO i leave us with pauls words he wrote to the corinthian church ,
SHALL I come upon you with a ROD or ...................
SOMEONE gotta do something sister . This people be in upmost deadly danger . I aint
never seen anything like this . The closest thing
i can recall by history , MIGHT have been in the earliest days of another one
WHO TOO also used the church for an agenda
but soon would t urn against any within such churches WHO DID NOT adhere to his ways .
They too had big ol pictures of that man up in churches
They too had praised such a man . WHO In his beginning HAD DID some GOOD things
who had caused some prosperity , who had indeed
began to make germany Great AGAIN . but me oh my
by the time folks figured it out , LIKE SOME TRUE ONES EARLY ON HAD and had warned , OH IT WAS TOO LATE .
And now guess what sister .
THEY HAVE A POWERFUL AI LED DIGITAL SYSTEM by which to .....................
This people has no idea teh spirit that is behind these leaders who sit both sides of the aisle
who also lead in pulpits on both sides of the aisle .
ITS all about a merger . AND IT DARN SURE AINT gonna be UNDER GOD , though they do say it is .

 

[amigo de christo]

Post the rules you are talking about.
(No fake AI videos please)

BY HIS rules . By HIS rules . and i wonder what HIS and what rules they are speaking about my friend .
OH some might say JESUS
But dont you find it kinda odd that these rules i keep seeing
ENCOURAGE the SWORD
And it aint THE WORD OF GOD SWORD either .
THIS JESUS DID NOT DO . THIS HE SURELY DID NOT TEACH .
so i suppose the simpliest way to perhaps sum this up is
I THINK when they say his rules
they mean , IF TRUMP said it , what was that paula white cain siad again
oh yeAH it trump said it GOD SAID IT . THAT IS WHOSE RULES I BELIEVE THEY FOLLOW

 

[amigo de christo]

Post the rules you are talking about.
(No fake AI videos please)

and now let us not just pick on TRUMP .
Cause for years and years and decades upon decades it has been
IF THE POPE SAID IT GOD SAID IT
or IF my church pastor said it , BY GOLLY GOD said it .
And that has always been the problem .
Cause the lips of men do not always speak truth at all . No often those lips
twist truth .
And GOD ALONE is HE who cannot lie , man can lie .
SO IT SHOULD BE GOD ALONE and HIS CHRIST ALONE and HIS words WE TRUST .

 

[amigo de christo]

Killing people is faith in action?

Oh its faith all right .
but the question is BE IT FAITH IN CHRIST JESUS or be it faith in MEN .
And now a word .
There once dwelt the MESSIAH in the land of Israel .
HE had made his face as though HE were to go to JERUSALEM
and it offended many in a city .
Now His apostles said LORD should we not CALL FIRE DOWN UPON THEM .
And JESUS SAID , YE KNOW not what spirit ye are of
FOR the SON OF MAN came to save LIVES not to DESTROY them .
KINDA ODD , is the fact
that this jesus of the nar realm
would have said this , OH YES LETS KILL THEM ALL , CALLING FOR crusades and swords against
them .
NOW ya know what i dont FOLLOW nar realm nor THE RCC , nor the liberal progressives
CONTRARY TO GOD and TO HIS CHRIST they are and they do teach contrary to HIM
and they all use HIS NAME TO DO SO as if they FOLLOW HIM .

 

[Wrangler]

Killing people is faith in action?

Never read Roman 13 eh?

Before that, there is killing people in faith in action accounts for thousands of years. The Conquest of Canaan, the Judges, Samson, David, etc. The overly-spiritualized replaced God with a sugar and spice and everything nice IDOL.

 

[amigo de christo]

Killing people is faith in action?

The time is coming and now is wherein
all will merge in mindset of a love and of a plan for peace they all believe to be of GOD .
Now i must warn us all . IF anyone here on this site is in any way connec ted
to ecumeincalism , GET OUT NOW .
I have seen the one thing that all have in common who are under its sway .
AND IT DARN sure aint politics , no they rage and war over that ,
Its this sensual love , its this judge not , its this
inclusive god . he has them . Though not all have yet bought his lie .
SOON THEY ALL WILL .
When the neutral one rises , THEY WILL DROP their swords of divisions
and become one mindset , one peoples , one common love , one common plan
and to them it will simply be OF GOD . bUT IT WILL BE SATAN .
Even now it rises and its spirits have and are convincing more and more
to FIND common ground . IT has WORN them down and they are ready for the lie .

 

[Gray_Joy]

Oh ye of little faith, or perhaps none at all if you have not been born of His Spirit. Don't you remember Jesus miraculously slipping through the hands of the crowd that was attempting to seize Him and throw Him off a cliff? And did He raise a little army to go after His enemies who were trying to kill Him? No, He didn't. He even fled the temptation when one group tried to crown Him King of Israel in the literal sense. FOLLOWING Christ is not anti-christ, it is what being a true Christian is all about.

You use the old testament to justify your carnality, but we are in the gospel age now. The new covenant whereby mercy triumphs over judgment/justice.

You excise the Old Testament so to deny Jesus is who he said he is.

God! Who does not change. And is the same yesterday,today, and forever.

I have great faith. And the likes of strong pacifists who deny Jesus cannot judge me. Or any here who are in Christ.

 

[Gray_Joy]

You are not Jesus.

Christians are Christ like.

That passage should tell you,Jesus was not passive.

Being you refuse to acknowledge Jesus is God of the Old Testament,it is understandable you'd have to insist Jesus was non-violent in order to promote your strong pacifism ideology.

However,that is Isegesis. And is not of God.

Show Scripture where Jesus told us to do the same.



Yes, God did all that.

Show Scripture where Jesus told us to do the same.

Instead I read :

Rom 12:17 Repay no one evil for evil, but give thought to do what is honorable in the sight of all.
Rom 12:18 If possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all.
Rom 12:19 Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.”
Rom 12:20 To the contrary, “if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals on his head.”
Rom 12:21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

I see the problem.

You conflate terms.

Vengeance,which should tell you God is not hyper passive as you insist Christians should be, is God's.

"When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own palace, his goods are safe;" Luke 11:21


What you don't understand is, defense of self,family,and others from evil is not vengeance.

1 Timothy 5:8
But if anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for members of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.

Provision there includes providing protection against aggressors.

Psalm 82:3-4
"Give justice to the weak and the fatherless; maintain the right of the afflicted and the destitute. Rescue the weak and the needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked.”

You would stand idle while your family is attacked by evil men.
When God commands otherwise.

You have that right.

You don't have the right to insist God would approve.

You imagine to stand idle while praying for God to put a stop to evils violence.
When God told you to provide for your family,and stop it yourself.

That's Jesus. Because he is God. Who does not change.

God in the OT is a war God who taught his faithful to fight for him and the kingdom.
But now,as Jesus he's a pacifist?

No.Not ever. Because he does not change. The money changers learned that.

 

[Lizbeth]

Christians are Christ like.

That passage should tell you,Jesus was not passive.

Being you refuse to acknowledge Jesus is God of the Old Testament,it is understandable you'd have to insist Jesus was non-violent in order to promote your strong pacifism ideology.

However,that is Isegesis. And is not of God.


I see the problem.

You conflate terms.

Vengeance,which should tell you God is not hyper passive as you insist Christians should be, is God's.

"When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own palace, his goods are safe;" Luke 11:21


What you don't understand is, defense of self,family,and others from evil is not vengeance.

1 Timothy 5:8
But if anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for members of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.

Provision there includes providing protection against aggressors.

Psalm 82:3-4
"Give justice to the weak and the fatherless; maintain the right of the afflicted and the destitute. Rescue the weak and the needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked.”

You would stand idle while your family is attacked by evil men.
When God commands otherwise.

You have that right.

You don't have the right to insist God would approve.

You imagine to stand idle while praying for God to put a stop to evils violence.
When God told you to provide for your family,and stop it yourself.

That's Jesus. Because he is God. Who does not change.

God in the OT is a war God who taught his faithful to fight for him and the kingdom.
But now,as Jesus he's a pacifist?

No.Not ever. Because he does not change. The money changers learned that.

I think you are confusing the word pacificist with passivity. They do not have the same meaning.

 

[Gray_Joy]

I think you are confusing the word pacificist with passivity.

No confusion on my part.


The Core Differences

• Pacifism is an active moral and political commitment to peace and nonviolence.

Passivity (sometimes called passivism) is a state of inaction or submissive acceptance. A passive person does not react to, challenge, or oppose an aggressor or an unjust situation.

As pertains to these discussions you and those like you conflate the two into your theology.

They do not have the same meaning.

See above.
I'm surprised it took you this long to broach that subject.
I wonder who told you the two words are not of the same meaning? Except for the case of the Isegesis you and others promote here.

 

[Ziggy]

Passivity (sometimes called passivism) is a state of inaction or submissive acceptance. A passive person does not react to, challenge, or oppose an aggressor or an unjust situation.

Because they are dead. They have no life in them.
Hugs

 

[Triumph1300]

IT has WORN them down and they are ready for the lie .

No doubt about it, Amigo.

 

[amigo de christo]

No doubt about it, Amigo.

my friend what neither side understands at all is this is a huge set up . it has been from its onset my friend .
In the end WHO do you think both sides , left and right , protestant rcc
Merged inclusive religoins
are gonna put all the blame on ...........
THE TRUE SHEEP who would not conform to the inclusive god and its will for world peace .
The set up was to break down all fundamentalism within all religoins .
This war they so think is against the muslim ,
Is not really against the muslim at all . Its a war against fundamentalism .
The one who puts God before govt .
IT was all a set up . THIS IS WHY you can see them rage war against Extremist muslims
AND YET at the same TIME embrace the LIE that all religoins serve the same God .
Because really what its saying is
ALL RELIGIONS that serve the PEACE PLAN serve GOD . YOU JUST wait and watch .
And they do not care that BELIEF IN JESUS has been trod under foot .
TO many it no longer matters what one beleives
SO LONG as they all about the peace plan . AGAIN mark those words well .
THE TRUE SHEEP will be p ersecuted .
Because the true sheep dont put GOVT before GOD .
They dont put anything before GOD and HIS CHRIST .
THESE war mongers care only for power and control . That is all this was also ever about .

 

[amigo de christo]

No doubt about it, Amigo.

When the nuetral one rises
they will rage war on all that are not all inclusive and for the peace plan . JUST wait and see .
And folks like wrangler
and folks on the liberal left as well
WILL BELEIVE the one most dangerous enemy of all of humanity and the world
are any and all NOT going with the flow of their peace plan and its crusades for peace .
IN Fact , and you can watch this too ,
The time is coming when men like wrangler , IF he dont get off this path
WILL have NO PROBLEM being co helpers to the round up and even support the death of men like me .
WAIT and SEE .
ALL they care about is IF their man said it GOD SAID IT and THIS IS GODS PLAN FOR WORLD PEACE .
it was a set up . You got muslims already beleving in this plan
Many hinudus , e ven atheiest are for peace
You got more and more christains , WELL SO CALLED ONES , going down this path .
Wait and see . Its coming .

 

[amigo de christo]

No doubt about it, Amigo.

I truly beleive IF TRUMP gave the order and called for the round up
of fundamental christains , THESE WOULD FOLLOW HIM .
As would the left follow thier man or woman who said the same thing .
The war of all wars , the war that came in under the guise of peace
and claim it was the peace plan of GOD , BUD ITS OF THE DEVIL himself .
Now i dont think trump g onna call for this
I think another one will . BUT if he did THEY WOULD FOLLOW THAT MAN to blood against the sheep.
I BELIEVE THAT TO BE TOTALLY TRUE .

 

[amigo de christo]

I think you are confusing the word pacificist with passivity. They do not have the same meaning.

in case you are not seeing what i am , They are more ready for blood than most realize .
WHILE I highly doubt it will be TRUMP that gives this order ,
IF HE DID they would follow him to blood against the true sheep .
THEY , just like the liberal left , just like Other religoins
Are now being made ready and prepared for one war .
THE WAR against FUNDAMENTALISM .
And that DARN SURE includes christain fundamentalism .
THIS war on terror , this global peace plan , this ecumeincalism interfaith
WAS only a means to prepare them to THE LIE
that all religoins do accept and they will too . For all false religoins DO NOT BELEIVE ON THE JESUS CHRIST
and these within christendom no longer beleive its even necessary to have to beleive on HIM .
ALL OF IT A LIE . ALL OF IT for one purpose and one outcome .
THIS ONE . TO prepare their minds and make ready a world and its nations
and a world and all religoins
TO AS ONE MIND serve teh beast , WHO RAGES ALL OUT WAR
against THOSE WHO KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD and have the FAITH OF JESUS CHRIST .
ALL OF IT was a set up sister .