Christians who hate Israel

[quietthinker]

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That is not what Jesus taught -
"But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment."
Matthew 12:36

Consider God's judgement in the light of Calvary and the Resurrection. What does it tell us?
Consider our judgement. What does it tell us?

 

[Luther7]

That video gives a very good understanding of what "nakba" really means ... it was a catastrophe for the Arabs that the Jewish people were able to defeat five armies against overwhelming odds ... those with spiritual insight will recognize God's hand in restoring Israel.

You believe that there is Biblical justification for a group of people (not even related to ancient Israel) to take over land that is not theirs. That's not the general consensus of the world, with the exception of Christian zionists.

Any promise of an eternal land inheritance in the O.T. belongs to Christ and His people, who make up the Israel of God. The people that claim to have that inheritance are stealing promises made for those in Christ. "Abraham and His seed" is the spiritual seed of Christ. When you see "Abraham's seed", that is referring to his future lineage inheriting literal land. That event came to pass:

Joshua 21:43-45 KJV
And the LORD gave unto Israel all the land which he sware to give unto their fathers; and they possessed it, and dwelt therein. [44] And the LORD gave them rest round about, according to all that he sware unto their fathers: and there stood not a man of all their enemies before them; the LORD delivered all their enemies into their hand. [45] There failed not ought of any good thing which the LORD had spoken unto the house of Israel; all came to pass.

 

[amigo de christo]

Amigo- I do understand that the UN wants a one world gov which appears to include a one world all inclusive religion.
Bahai seem to fit the bill so far, and the UN loves them. Recall we had a Bahai poster here once trying to convince us? He was former SDA.

The UN has interfaith sessions with churches and even the Jws have been in those. Interfaith does not mean we must all kumbyaaa though. It can be a step towards it- but is not it. It's just dialogue so we can be kinder to each other. SO in and of itself- there is nothing wrong with that. Let's be sober minded- we are to love our enemies- and discuss our faith gently--- we are not to compromise our faith in Christ- that is where the rubber meets the road. True believers will not do that. Interfaith includes all the world's religions. Tricky but not a sin to talk with them. Bring armour!

Then there is ecumenical- that is where all who claim "Christianity" communicate with each other. I have no problem with that= we do that on here everyday. We only need to be wise about it and not compromise truth that we hold as essential. For instance- what is wrong with a methodist and a baptist speaking? Nothing. How about a Baptist and a Catholic- there would probably be some yelling.. but why should we all hate each other? DIALOGUE does not mean danger for a true believer.

We do not want to act superior like the Jews did and hate the Samaritan do we? We can speak to one another, but I think it is only for mature believers. -- not for those who seem to be tossed to and fro. If we bring Christ IN US with us- we will be just fine.

Having said all of that- I want you to know that yes, I do understand there are dangers- and I do know the goal of the UN. I absolutely know the world leaders are part of the UN agenda. I have been saying it for decades. it is very real. But most people do not care. It's frustrating because it is all FACT. But people are so caught up in their various youtube conspiracies that many assume the UN is just another one..and dont want to hear it. ---It is very different- fully documented and seen happening daily across the globe and in every institution--. I know and I think you know there is much more than interfaith involved here. Everything we see happening is a part of it.- everything.
But we need to be calm and wise and help each other- not just scream about the Catholics. Make sense?

no that is what THEY want you to think . But anything connected to intefaith is total bad news .
Get them all out of any church that has already entered into such negotiations . NOW . They lead them to the LIE .

 

[quietthinker]

You believe that there is Biblical justification for a group of people (not even related to ancient Israel) to take over land that is not theirs. That's not the general consensus of the world, with the exception of Christian zionists.

Any promise of an eternal land inheritance in the O.T. belongs to Christ and His people, who make up the Israel of God. The people that claim to have that inheritance are stealing promises made for those in Christ. "Abraham and His seed" is the spiritual seed of Christ. When you see "Abraham's seed", that is referring to his future lineage inheriting literal land. That event came to pass:

Joshua 21:43-45 KJV
And the LORD gave unto Israel all the land which he sware to give unto their fathers; and they possessed it, and dwelt therein. [44] And the LORD gave them rest round about, according to all that he sware unto their fathers: and there stood not a man of all their enemies before them; the LORD delivered all their enemies into their hand. [45] There failed not ought of any good thing which the LORD had spoken unto the house of Israel; all came to pass.

I would go so far as to say, not all Israel is Israel......and that goes from ancient times.
There have always been folk in all nations whose hearts resonate and respond to the wooing of God's Spirit....and there have always been people in all nations who have an appearance of conformity to God but are in fact opposed to him.

 

[Debp]

You believe that there is Biblical justification for a group of people (not even related to ancient Israel) to take over land that is not theirs. That's not the general consensus of the world, with the exception of Christian zionists.

There are over 50 Muslim countries. Why can't the Jews have just one country?

Egypt has a stronger border wall against the Palestinians than Israel.

Also the surrounding Arab countries all attacked Israel at one time during the Yom Kippur war thinking they would win. Israel won instead and so got more land.

Here's just one quote by Haled al Azm, Syrian Prime Minister, 1948-1949: "Since 1948 we have been demanding the return of the refugees to their homes. But we ourselves are the ones who encouraged them to leave." -The Memoirs of Khaled al-Azm (Beirut, 1973). @Nancy

 

[Debp]

Prager University videos.

Pakistani Muslim taught to hate Israel realizes that is wrong.

One side (Palestinians) want the other side dead. Hamas says " We love death as much as the Jews love life." @Nancy

Israel gave land to Egypt and they live in peace with Israel. Palestinians won't accept land from Israel, they want Jews dead.

 

[Debp]

There's 850,000+ Jews that left, fled, or were ethnically cleansed from Arab countries since 1948. How many Jews are allowed in Gaza? Zero, because they would be killed. @Nancy But Israel welcomes all people.

Prager University.

 

[Luther7]

I believe that God judges all sin in a very strict and righteous manner ... that is why Jesus Christ had to die for our sins.

If a ruler obeys God, he will avenge wrong doing ... and in this role, he is the servant of God -
But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer. (Romans 13:3-4)


We will be judged by God's Word.

As a Christian, a person should treat all people with kindness ... as a representative of the ruling authority, Scripture requires a person to enforce the law ... with deadly force when it is deemed necessary.

I would go so far as to say, not all Israel is Israel......and that goes from ancient times.
There have always been folk in all nations whose hearts resonate and respond to the wooing of God's Spirit....and there have always been people in all nations who have an appearance of conformity to God but are in fact opposed to him.

Unfortunately evil people take advantage of good hearted people who can't comprehend their depths of deception and perversness.
If I were to make it very clear some of the perverted practices of those people who call themselves jews ( in high places of power, following their political/ religious doctrine generally speaking), you would have to then engage critical thinking.
You would have to question how far you would go to support these people, especially if you find out that the dispensationalist theology was literally created by them ( through their influence to " pastors") for the advancement of a worldwide Zionist/ Communist governance.

 

[Luther7]

There's 850,000+ Jews that left, fled, or were ethnically cleansed from Arab countries since 1948. How many Jews are allowed in Gaza? Zero, because they would be killed. @Nancy But Israel welcomes all people.

Prager University.

That's good debp. Dennis Prager? No bias there, right?

 

[Luther7]

There are over 50 Muslim countries. Why can't the Jews have just one country?

Egypt has a stronger border wall against the Palestinians than Israel.

Also the surrounding Arab countries all attacked Israel at one time during the Yom Kippur war thinking they would win. Israel won instead and so got more land.

Here's just one quote by Haled al Azm, Syrian Prime Minister, 1948-1949: "Since 1948 we have been demanding the return of the refugees to their homes. But we ourselves are the ones who encouraged them to leave." -The Memoirs of Khaled al-Azm (Beirut, 1973). @Nancy

There are over 50 Muslim countries. Why can't the Jews have just one country?

You don't know your history. Everywhere jews went they destroyed the well being and sovereignty of the host nation. The diaspora has one set goal, as taught by their religion....world domination over non- jews. They really believe that they are God's chosen people, as they are taught that non- jews have lesser of a soul than them, that we are animals basically, not having the same rights as them.
And it doesn't matter what you think about them, or if you even care to research what I'm saying. You will find out one day when your " rapture" doesn't come and you are witnessing them control every move you make. Did you know our government now OFFICIALLY will be sharing all of our military secrets with Israel? Do you care? Maybe you think it's a good thing.
And you wonder why Palestinians never wanted them as neighbors. Some neighbors. Picture in your mind a vast field of little mounds of dirt, about 20,000 of them. And some of those children were your Christian brothers and sisters. Yes, there are Christians in Palestine. Just in case you also think that all Palestinians are less human because they're Muslim, like the jews do. Just ask them.

 

[Debp]

That's good debp. Dennis Prager? No bias there, right?

It's history...850,000 Jews were forced to flee all of those Arab countries (ethnic cleansing). Some Arab countries today have no Jews, others might have a few Jews. I saw one Arab country that has ten Jews.

Everywhere jews went they destroyed the well being and sovereignty of the host nation. The diaspora has one set goal, as taught by their religion....world domination over non- jews. They really believe that they are God's chosen people, as they are taught that non- jews have lesser of a soul than them, that we are animals basically, not having the same rights as them.

That sounds exactly like Islam. They believe Islam must dominate worldwide for Shari'a to be instituted.

Starting at the three minute mark on this video are Islamic hate preachers in Australia. Although they are in other Western countries too. @Armour of God

Many hate preaching Imans on this.

Brief video.

 

[Luther7]

It's history...850,000 Jews were forced to flee all of those Arab countries (ethnic cleansing). Some Arab countries today have no Jews, others might have a few Jews. I saw one Arab country that has ten Jews.



That sounds exactly like Islam. They believe Islam must dominate worldwide for Shari'a to be instituted.

Starting at the three minute mark on this video are Islamic hate preachers in Australia. Although they are in other Western countries too. @Armour of God

Many hate preaching Imans on this.

Brief video.

You don't get it. Everything I'm telling you is fact. No matter how evil you think Muslims are, Muslims don't control the world. Mass immigration policies are overwhelmingly influenced by jews. Muslims aren't influencing (bribing)our government, jews are.
Sure, they are both a problem for mankind. But the head of the snake wears a yamika. Yo really have to research this.

 

[Debp]

You don't get it. Everything I'm telling you is fact. No matter how evil you think Muslims are, Muslims don't control the world. Mass immigration policies are overwhelmingly influenced by jews. Muslims aren't influencing (bribing)our government, jews are.
Sure, they are both a problem for mankind. But the head of the snake wears a yamika. Yo really have to research this.

I think you just don't like the Jews.

I actually have love for Muslims. But I do hate Islam. It teaches to kill non-Muslims, oppresses women and children, even sexually abusing children as child brides, etc. And Islamists do teach Islam needs to rule worldwide. You have to convert or be killed, or else pay jizja and become a second class citizen to Muslims.

P.S. Why do you think Muslims are moving to Western countries? To spread Islam. And that's why they are running for political office too...for control.

 

[Luther7]

I think you just don't like the Jews.

I actually have love for Muslims. But I do hate Islam. It teaches to kill non-Muslims, oppresses women and children, even sexually abusing children as child brides, etc. And Islamists do teach Islam needs to rule worldwide. You have to convert or be killed, or else pay jizja and become a second class citizen to Muslims.

P.S. Why do you think Muslims are moving to Western countries? To spread Islam. And that's why they are running for political office too...for control.

Usually at one point in an uncomfortable conversation as this I will hear that accusation. Fact is as a Christian I have love and compassion for humanity. Especially jewish people. Some of their traditions/ behaviors/ practices are painful to watch or read about especially when you know that their religion is all they know.

Something very unnatural developes in a person who's religion teaches them that they are superior to everyone else. Sure, Islam is very similar in its ideology. Fact is, Islam was influenced or patterned after judaism. It's likely that a group of rabbis invented it. There is information available on my assertion.

But my point in this whole matter is very simple: Non -jews are and have been in a perpetual state of being deceived by jewish leadership and any other jew that would naturally defend their agendas.

80% of Christians believe that there is some special promise from God regarding the modern state of Israel. Wrong. This deceptive theology came from jewish influence. The Bible is crystal clear ( Joshua 21) that any promise that God made towards ancient Israel WAS FULFILLED.

 

[Triumph1300]

Islamic hate preachers are not the only ones full of hate.
Many false teachers in American Money Hungry Mega churches also preach hate messages.
Nothing new under the sun.
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The only way to solve this problem is "preach the true Gospel" and stop accusing others of being hateful.

 

[Triumph1300]

I think you just don't like the Jews.

There you have it.....say anything against the State of Israel and you are accused of being a Jew hater.