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Philip James

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Proper intention:
The church does what the church has always done and a council must be doctrinal in nature.

John 23 when asked what doctrine are you going to define with the council and what errors are you going to condemn said: none, it’s going to be a “pastoral council” and there is no such thing as a “pastoral council” so it does not have proper intention of doing what the church does!

Proper form: the proper form of a council is clear concise unambiguous language, Vatican 2 is purposely ambiguous, contradictory, and rambles on and on!

proper matter: a council is extraordinary magisterium, Paul 6 was quoted saying: Vatican 2 is ordinary magisterium!

not a valid council and not binding on anyone!

Who's your bishop? Does he agree with your schismatic view?

Pax et Bonum
 

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Just to clarify - @theefaith does NOT represent the Catholic Church’s position on several matters, as he is a dissident and a sedevacantist.

He is WRONG about the Church NOT accepting the 2nd Vatican Council as valid. MOST sedevacantist dissidents are ANTI-Vatican II.
The Church recognizes validly-Baptized Trinitarian Protestants as Christians.

He also has it wrong when it comes to “heretics”.
“Cradle” Protestants and those who were never Catholic cannot be heretics.
According to the Church - only a Catholic can be a “heretic”, because only Catholics can repudiate the fullness of the Gospel. That’s why the Protestant Fathers, who were Catholics were all considered to be heretics.
 
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Just to clarify - @theefaith does NOT represent the Catholic Church’s position on several matters, as he is a dissident and a sedevacantist.

He is WRONG about the Church NOT accepting the 2nd Vatican Council as valid. MOST sedevacantist dissidents are ANTI-Vatican II.
The Church recognizes validly-Baptized Trinitarian Protestants as Christians.

He also has it wrong when it comes to “heretics”.
“Cradle” Protestants and those who were never Catholic cannot be heretics.
According to the Church - only a Catholic can be a “heretic”, because only Catholics can repudiate the fullness of the Gospel. That’s why the Protestant Fathers, who were Catholics were all considered to be heretics.

The you have suffered shipwreck of faith!

Cos I ain’t worshiping an idol with Francis!

AKA PACHAMAMA!
 

BreadOfLife

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The you have suffered shipwreck of faith!

Cos I ain’t worshiping an idol with Francis!

AKA PACHAMAMA!
As usual, you’re BIG on opinions and false statements – but NOT so much on actual evidence . . .
 

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Church councils?
always go there, they'll reduce taxes or give you a reason to give them the lions share.
 

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only Catholics are capable of being Christian..


Jesus said- "This is how you should pray- Our Father which art in heaven..." yet catholics disobey him by praying to his mum and to human "saints", tut tut.
No wonder Fredo's prayer fell on deaf ears..:)

 
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Matthias

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God in Three Persons is already firmly and clearly in Scripture.

Church history documents that it isn’t.

Catholic scholarship tends to be more honest with the relationship of scripture and the post-biblical development of trinitarianism than is Protestant scholarship.