I'm glad. That means you are twice as smart as most people who just see "we."
So why do you think 8 and 10 are Christians? Don't you see the key word "SAY" in all of them. Why do 8 and 10 contradict the rest of Scripture is they are Christians. Do you think 1 John 1:9 is a get out of jail free card to be used over and over with no power over sin? No, it is to be used ONCE to receive the Holy Spirit just like Acts 2:38. How many times must you receive the Holy Spirit to be cleansed of all unrighteousness.
I don't go with your line of reasoning-
If we confess (ean homologōmen).
Third-class condition again with ean and present active subjunctive of homologeō, “if we keep on confessing.”
Confession of sin to God and to one another (Jas_5:16) is urged throughout the N.T. from John the Baptist (Mar_1:5) on.
Faithful (pistos). Jesus made confession of sin necessary to forgiveness. It is God’s promise and he is “righteous” (dikaios).
To forgive (hina aphēi). Sub-final clause with hina and second aorist active subjunctive of aphiēmi.
And to cleanse (kai hagiasēi). So again with hina and the first aorist active subjunctive of katharizō (1Jn_1:7).
1Jn_1:8-10. The heresy of Perfectionism.
Some might not say, with the Antinomians, that they were absolved from the obligation of the moral law,
but they maintained that they were done with sin, had no more sinful propensities, committed no more sinful acts.
And thus the nearer we approach it the further off it seems; when we walk in the light we see faults which were hidden in the darkness. Self-abasement is a characteristic of the saints. When Juan de Avila (A.D. 1500–69) was dying the rector of his college approached him and said: “What joy it must be to you to think of meeting the Saviour!” “Ah!” said the saint, “rather do I tremble at the thought of my sins.”
“Remission of sins cannot be sundered from penitence, nor can the peace of God belong to consciences where the fear of God does not reign” (Calv.).
Perfectionism has two causes: (1) The stifling of conscience: “we make Him a liar, i.e., turn a deaf ear to His inward testimony, His voice in our souls. (2) Ignorance of His Word: it “is not in us”.
Such a delusion were impossible if we steeped our minds in the Scriptures. Consider the lapses of the saints, e.g., David, Peter.
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I have news for you, confession of sin is in the Present Tense, Active, Subjunctive-it is not a "once of" kind of confession-it is ongoing.
Transliteration: homologōmen
Morphology: V-PSA-1P
Verb - Present Subjunctive Active - 1st Person Plural
Strong's no.: G3670 (ὁμολογέω)
Meaning: (a) to promise, agree, (b) to confess, (c) to publicly declare, (d) a Hebraism, to praise, celebrate.
John’s message here means that a walk in the light is possible.
We know that on this side of eternity, sinless perfection is not possible. Yet we can still walk in the light, so John does mean perfect obedience.
ii. The Christian life is described as walking, which implies activity. Christian life feeds upon contemplation, but it displays itself in action. “Walking” implies action, continuity, and progress. Since God is active and walking, if you have fellowship with Him you will also be active and walking.
b. As He is in the light: Since God is light (1Jn_1:5), when we walk in the light we walk where He is. We are naturally together with Him in fellowship.
c. We have fellowship with one another: We would have expected John to say, “We have fellowship with God.” That is true, but already in the idea of walking together with God in the light. John wants to make it clear that fellow Christians who walk in the light enjoy fellowship with each other.
i. This leads to an important idea: if we do not have fellowship with one another, then one party or both parties are not walking in the light. Two Christians who are in right relationship with God will also naturally be in right relationship with each other.
d. The blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin: As we walk in the light we also enjoy the continual cleansing of Jesus.
This is another indication that John does not mean sinless perfection by the phrase walk in the light; otherwise, there would be no sin to cleanse in this ongoing sense.
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We need a continual cleansing because the Bible says we continually sin and fall short of the glory of God (Rom_3:23).
Even though Christians have been cleansed in an important general sense, our “feet” need cleaning (Joh_13:10).
ii. The verb form John used in cleanses us from all sin is in the present tense, not in the future tense. We can do more than merely hope we will one day be cleansed. Because of what Jesus did on the cross for me, I can be cleansed today.
iii. “Observe, yet again, that in the verse there is no hint given of any emotions, feelings, or attainments, as co-operating with the blood to take away sin. Christ took the sins of his people and was punished for those sins as if he had been himself a sinner, and so sin is taken away from us; but in no sense, degree, shape or form, is sin removed by attainments, emotions, feelings or experiences.” (Spurgeon)
Transliteration: homologōmen
Morphology: V-PSA-1P
Verb - Present Subjunctive Active - 1st Person Plural
Strong's no.: G3670 (ὁμολογέω)
Meaning: (a) to promise, agree, (b) to confess, (c) to publicly declare, (d) a Hebraism, to praise, celebrate.
"cleanses us from all sin" This is a PRESENT ACTIVE INDICATIVE. The term "sin" is SINGULAR with no ARTICLE. This implies every kind of sin.
Notice this verse is focusing on a one-time cleansing (salvation, 1 John 1:9), but on an ongoing cleansing (the Christian life). Both are part of the Christian experience (cf. John 13:10).
1:8 "If we say that we have no sin" This is another THIRD CLASS CONDITIONAL SENTENCE. Sin is a spiritual reality in a fallen world, even for believers (cf. Romans 7; Eph. 4:14; 6:10-18). John's Gospel addresses this issue often (cf. John 9:41; 15:22,24; 19:11). This verse rejects all ancient and modern claims that deny individual moral responsibility.
"we are deceiving ourselves" This Greek phrase refers to personal, willful rejection of truth, not ignorance.
"the truth is not in us" The way to acceptance by a Holy God is not denial, but recognition of our sin and acceptance of His provision in Christ (cf. Rom. 3:21-31). "The truth" can refer to the message about Jesus or the person of Jesus (cf. John 14:6).
1:8,9 "If" These are both THIRD CLASS CONDITIONAL SENTENCES which means potential action.
1:9 "confess" This is a compound Greek term from "to speak" and "the same." Believers continue to agree with God that they have violated His holiness (cf. Rom. 3:23).
It is PRESENT TENSE, which implies ongoing action. Confession implies
a specific naming of sins (1 John 1:9)
a public admitting of sins (cf. Matt. 10:32; James 5:16)
a turning from specific sins (cf. Matt. 3:6; Mark 1:5; Acts 19:18; James 5:16)
1 John uses this term quite often (cf. 1 John 1:9; 4:2,3,15; 2 John 7). Jesus' death is the means of forgiveness, but sinful mankind must respond and continue to respond in faith to be saved (cf. John 1:12; 3:16).
"our sins" Notice the PLURAL. This refers to specific acts of sin.
"He is faithful" This refers to God the Father (cf. Deut. 7:9; 32:4; Ps. 36:5; 40:10; 89:1,2,5,8; 92:2; 119:90; Isa. 49:7; Rom. 3:3; 1 Cor. 1:9; 10:13; 2 Cor. 1:18; 1 Thess. 5:24; 2 Tim. 2:13). God the Father's unchanging, merciful, faithful character is our surest hope! This phrase accentuates God's faithfulness to His Word (cf. Heb. 10:23;11:11). This may also refer to God's New Covenant promise made in Jer. 31:34, which promised the forgiveness of sins.
"and righteous" This term is unusual in a context related to a holy God freely pardoning unholy people. However, this is theologically accurate because God takes our sins seriously, yet He has provided the means for our forgiveness in the substitutionary death of Christ (cf. Rom. 3:21-31).
"forgive . . . cleanse" These are both AORIST ACTIVE SUBJUNCTIVES. These two terms are synonymous in this context; they refer both to the salvation of the lost and to the ongoing cleansing necessary for fellowship with God (i.e., when God forgives, God fogets, cf. Isa. 1:18; 38:17; 43:25; 44:22; Ps. 103:3,11-13; Mic. 7:19). The false teachers who denied the gospel, needed salvation. Believers who continue to commit acts of sin need restoration of fellowship. John seems to address the first group implicitly and the second explicitly.
1:10 "If we say" See note at 1 John 1:6.
"we have not sinned" This is a PERFECT ACTIVE INDICATIVE which implies that one has never sinned in the past nor in the present. The term "sinned" is SINGULAR and refers to sin in general. The Greek term means "to miss the mark."
This means that sin is both the commission and the omission of the things revealed in God's Word. The false teachers claimed salvation was related only to knowledge, not to life.
"we make Him a liar" The gospel is based on the sinfulness of all mankind (cf. Rom. 3:9-18,23; 5:1; 11:32). Either God (cf. Rom. 3:4) or those who claim sinlessness, is lying.
"His word is not in us" This involves the dual aspect of the term "logos," both as a message and a person (cf. 1 John 1:1,8; John 14:6). John often refers to this as "truth."
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