Cleansing by the Word

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ScottA

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As long as the eyes stay on Christ...the real Christ...once a person is given access to the spiritual realm...and the inner man continues to put no confidence in the flesh or his place in this world...then the power of the cross keeps the outer man sin nature crucified, But a living sacrifice can crawl off the altar. We always have free agency.

The keeping power of God by the grace of God is sufficient to keep us in a walk without sin...always. But one needs to have faith. When Peter started to sink in the water after having made his way to Jesus ...He said...why did you doubt?
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You are confusing a physical death here with a spiritual death or separation from God. The "soul that sins it shall die" is not a physical death. And the free gift of life in Christ is not a physical life.
The word "soul" has greater meaning, including the flesh body.

But you are still blurring the line between flesh and spirit. Yes, the spirit of all who are born died when Adam and Eve sinned--we are the children of that sin. And yes, the gift of eternal life is spiritual. But clearly, the flesh dies...which is that spiritual death being made manifest. So, the confusion is you including in what occurred in the garden, with what occurs in this world, which is to say: death.

What shall we say then, that the physical flesh body sins, or the spiritual--the soul? What is written in the greater volume of scripture, is that what was, was first spiritual, and what was made manifest was natural (physical), "and afterward the spiritual." But death came to the flesh by sin, and the soul although apart from God for a time, did not die--but without the flesh was offered the free gift of salvation and eternal life through Christ.
 

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Circumcision requires a cutting away of the flesh. No matter what happens to the inner man, if the outer man husk remains intact, the life that is embedded within cannot come out and bear fruit.
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By definition circumcision describes, by image, in parable, in likeness, made manifest--removing the flesh, the foreskin, that which was first--not converting it, not saving it, not transforming it, not glorifying it--but discarding it.

Bearing fruit then, is of the Spirit.
 

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If we don't put to death the deeds of the flesh by the Spirit, then we will die. You would have the race to be over at the first step. But that very idea causes people to fail the grace of God. Many will be cut off eternally from the presence of God. And even among those who try desperately to enter the kingdom will not be able. Many are called but few are chosen.
That is not what is written--the flesh dies either way.

One born again of the spirit of God can produce spiritual fruit 100, 60, 30 fold, or not at all, and yet is saved--even those cut into and given their lot with the hypocrites. Which is not a loss of salvation (contrary to popular belief), but brings upon themselves the loss off that portion of "reigning with Christ" unto the end. "There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

Let your understanding line up with the bible and the true narrative being presented. Don't try overlaying your own logic to it.

Anything that is of Christ is miraculous in nature. With God all things are possible.
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