Commitment to Sin

[robert derrick]

He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Christians who still identify as sinners, still committing sin 'at times', say this Scripture is only for the sinners of the world that are committed to sin, and not just committing sin 'time to time'.

1. If we commit sin, then we are committed to sin at that time.

2. If we commit sin at any time, we are guilty of all sin, and so we have committed all sin at that time.

3. Commitment to sin 'at times' is commitment to sin all the time, because God has no part nor time with the devil's sinners, whether part or full time.

4. Committing sin is only by lust in the heart, and so committing sin 'at times' is not keeping the first great commandment any time.

No man loves God with all the heart at times and part of the heart at times.

5. If we believe we will continue to commit sin in the flesh, then we are committed to sin in the flesh.

And if we live by that faith to commit sin, then by that faith we are committed to sin for life.

The faith of Jesus that saves and justifies is not that faith of sinful man that believes in committing sin 'time to time'.

The faith of Jesus is that which is committed to doing His righteousness at all times, and not committing sin of the devil anymore times at all.

Keeping the faith of Jesus has no commitment to sin from time to time.

The one distinct and clear difference between the Christian saints that keep Jesus' faith, and Christian sinners that keep their own faith, is that of commitment:

the sinner believes he shall commit sin again in the flesh and so is committed to sin for life, while the saint believes obeying God is at all times, and so is committed to obeying Him while in the flesh.

No good husband and wife commit to adultery in future from time to time, so neither is Christ and His church.

 

[robert derrick]

Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

And Moses said unto the people, Fear not: for God is come to prove you, and that his fear may be before your faces, that ye sin not.

My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not.

This is proof of Scripture that committing sin and sinning are the same thing in Scripture. We cannot commit sin time to time, nor can we sin at any time and be born of God.

Only sinners seeking to justify themselves parse Scripture and play word games with God.

 

[Karl Peters]

There is a lot written in the OP and the next post, and many statements about what the Scriptures explain, but notice there are no actual supporting Scriptures quoted to support what is explain. So perhaps a few actual Scriptures need to be considered!! Try these on for size:


1 Jn 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us.

1 Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

1 Jn 1;10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us.

So, John discussed this sin and sinning issue, and address the issue of some saying that they "have no sin". If we do that you are just "deceiving ourselves!!

What we need to do is realize that we do have issued with sin and sinning and confess them. That process requires that a person remove their pride and search themselves for what needs to be improved, and them talk to the Lord are God, Jesus Christ, about the areas in our lives that need improving.

Now Paul did a great job of discussing this issue of sin and sinning in Roman chapter 7:

Romans 7:13-23 Therefore, did that which is good become a cause of death for me? May it never be! Rather it was sin, in order that it might be shown to be sin by effecting my death through that which is good, so that through the commandment sin would become utterly sinful. For we know that the Law is spiritual, but I am of flesh, sold into bondage to sin. For what I am doing, I do not understand; for I am not practicing what I would like to do, but I am doing the very thing I hate. But if I do the very thing I do not want to do, I agree with the Law, confessing that the Law is good. So now, no longer am I the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me. For I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh; for the willing is present in me, but the doing of the good is not. For the good that I want, I do not do, but I practice the very evil that I do not want. But if I am doing the very thing I do not want, I am no longer the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me. I find then the [fn]principle that evil is present in me, the one who wants to do good. For I joyfully concur with the law of God in the inner man, but I see a different law in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin which is in my members.

The above was written by Paul, the Christian man. What Paul, the Christian man found out was that being flesh meant he has been sold into bondage to sin. He found that the very things he did not want to do, he was doing. Then figured out that since he did not want to do those sinful things, it must be "sin" dwelling in him. Meaning he found the principle that evil was present in him, Paul the Christian man.

Also there is something it seems many Christians still don't understand. And that is that: "All unrighteousness is sin!"

1 Jn 5:17 All unrighteousness is sin, ...

Think about that! So if you didn't get all the answer correct on a test at school, that would be unrighteousness. It could have been avoided if you got God to give you the answers. Jesus explained in the Scriptures that He did and said only what the Father told Him, so He didn't do or say anything wrong - but we do. The thing is that the more you actually listen to the Lord the more you find out how far off you are from doing everything right.

Saul - that Pharisee who had read and studied the Scriptures but who did not actually know the Lord, thought that he was doing right by persecuting those early believers. Paul that Christian man who walked and talked with the Lord Jesus Christ came to understand what a sinner He was. How was he, Paul the sinner ever going to get to heaven, because sin was dwelling in him and he knew it now that he came to know the Lord. Of course Jesus and the forgiveness He gives us cleans us. That being clean does not mean that we start doing everything right. We still don't do and say only what the Father tells us, thought His Son and Holy Spirit. But the forgiveness enables us to start improving.

Jesus said He reproves those He loves!! So the life of a Christian is a life of being reproved by our Lord and teacher Jesus Christ, so that we might become better and better. Now as our Teacher, Jesus still gives us tests and we still don't get all the answers right. So we still have unrighteousness, but since the test was part of our getting better the unrighteousness is not counted against us. Which is to say that we believers are counted as righteous simply because of our faith, and not because of our perfect deeds!

Gen 15:6 Then he believed in the LORD; and He reckoned it to him as righteousness.

Our belief, not our perfection, is reckoned to us as righteousness. So while all unrighteousness is sin, our belief makes us reckoned as righteous in God's eyes! We are looked at as children of God learning, as opposed to criminal violating the Law - at least those who really believe in Him are. That belief in Him means we seek Him and ask Him questions - which is to say we who know Him reason with Him. That helps us learn.

Is 1:18 “Come now, and let us reason together,”
Says the LORD,
“Though your sins are as scarlet,
They will be as white as snow;
Though they are red like crimson,
They will be like wool.

If you reason with God, which is to say that if you are being taught by Jesus Christ our Teacher, then you sins are what as snow to Him, because that is your learning - your getting better. Still - that learning makes you more aware of your faults not less aware of your faults. So the person saying that they now have no sin because they are a Christian, is not like John or Paul - but that are the person who is deceiving himself. They are not listening by faith to the Teacher who gently reproves those He loves. The Lord does not count your unrighteousness (sin) against you but you should be more aware of sin in you!

 

[robert derrick]

There is a lot written in the OP and the next post, and many statements about what the Scriptures explain, but notice there are no actual supporting Scriptures quoted to support what is explain. So perhaps a few actual Scriptures need to be considered!! Try these on for size:


1 Jn 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us.

1 Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

1 Jn 1;10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us.

So, John discussed this sin and sinning issue, and address the issue of some saying that they "have no sin". If we do that you are just "deceiving ourselves!!

What we need to do is realize that we do have issued with sin and sinning and confess them. That process requires that a person remove their pride and search themselves for what needs to be improved, and them talk to the Lord are God, Jesus Christ, about the areas in our lives that need improving.

Now Paul did a great job of discussing this issue of sin and sinning in Roman chapter 7:

Romans 7:13-23 Therefore, did that which is good become a cause of death for me? May it never be! Rather it was sin, in order that it might be shown to be sin by effecting my death through that which is good, so that through the commandment sin would become utterly sinful. For we know that the Law is spiritual, but I am of flesh, sold into bondage to sin. For what I am doing, I do not understand; for I am not practicing what I would like to do, but I am doing the very thing I hate. But if I do the very thing I do not want to do, I agree with the Law, confessing that the Law is good. So now, no longer am I the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me. For I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh; for the willing is present in me, but the doing of the good is not. For the good that I want, I do not do, but I practice the very evil that I do not want. But if I am doing the very thing I do not want, I am no longer the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me. I find then the [fn]principle that evil is present in me, the one who wants to do good. For I joyfully concur with the law of God in the inner man, but I see a different law in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin which is in my members.

The above was written by Paul, the Christian man. What Paul, the Christian man found out was that being flesh meant he has been sold into bondage to sin. He found that the very things he did not want to do, he was doing. Then figured out that since he did not want to do those sinful things, it must be "sin" dwelling in him. Meaning he found the principle that evil was present in him, Paul the Christian man.

Also there is something it seems many Christians still don't understand. And that is that: "All unrighteousness is sin!"

1 Jn 5:17 All unrighteousness is sin, ...

Think about that! So if you didn't get all the answer correct on a test at school, that would be unrighteousness. It could have been avoided if you got God to give you the answers. Jesus explained in the Scriptures that He did and said only what the Father told Him, so He didn't do or say anything wrong - but we do. The thing is that the more you actually listen to the Lord the more you find out how far off you are from doing everything right.

Saul - that Pharisee who had read and studied the Scriptures but who did not actually know the Lord, thought that he was doing right by persecuting those early believers. Paul that Christian man who walked and talked with the Lord Jesus Christ came to understand what a sinner He was. How was he, Paul the sinner ever going to get to heaven, because sin was dwelling in him and he knew it now that he came to know the Lord. Of course Jesus and the forgiveness He gives us cleans us. That being clean does not mean that we start doing everything right. We still don't do and say only what the Father tells us, thought His Son and Holy Spirit. But the forgiveness enables us to start improving.

Jesus said He reproves those He loves!! So the life of a Christian is a life of being reproved by our Lord and teacher Jesus Christ, so that we might become better and better. Now as our Teacher, Jesus still gives us tests and we still don't get all the answers right. So we still have unrighteousness, but since the test was part of our getting better the unrighteousness is not counted against us. Which is to say that we believers are counted as righteous simply because of our faith, and not because of our perfect deeds!

Gen 15:6 Then he believed in the LORD; and He reckoned it to him as righteousness.

Our belief, not our perfection, is reckoned to us as righteousness. So while all unrighteousness is sin, our belief makes us reckoned as righteous in God's eyes! We are looked at as children of God learning, as opposed to criminal violating the Law - at least those who really believe in Him are. That belief in Him means we seek Him and ask Him questions - which is to say we who know Him reason with Him. That helps us learn.

Is 1:18 “Come now, and let us reason together,”
Says the LORD,
“Though your sins are as scarlet,
They will be as white as snow;
Though they are red like crimson,
They will be like wool.

If you reason with God, which is to say that if you are being taught by Jesus Christ our Teacher, then you sins are what as snow to Him, because that is your learning - your getting better. Still - that learning makes you more aware of your faults not less aware of your faults. So the person saying that they now have no sin because they are a Christian, is not like John or Paul - but that are the person who is deceiving himself. They are not listening by faith to the Teacher who gently reproves those He loves. The Lord does not count your unrighteousness (sin) against you but you should be more aware of sin in you!

There is a lot written in the OP and the next post, and many statements about what the Scriptures explain, but notice there are no actual supporting Scriptures quoted to support what is explain.

Look again. Scriptures are in Red. Just like the Red-letter Bible.

ALso, since the topic is how committing sin is sinning once, and especially time to time for life, you're response is irrelevant to it.

Thanks anyway.

 

[Karl Peters]

He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

And Moses said unto the people, Fear not: for God is come to prove you, and that his fear may be before your faces, that ye sin not.

My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not.

Have you not read that Jesus is the only begotten Son of God?

Jn 3:16 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.

Do you think you are Him??

And concerning us, even those you were listening to Him, Jesus said "If you being evil"! (Mat 7:11 and Luke 11:13)

To understand the Bible of yours, we need to start listening to Him!!

Of course the His Holy Spirit is not the only spirit around!

The verses you were considering were to help you discern between good and evil (Jesus Christ and Satan) yet somehow people start thinking they are now the 'only begotten Son' ???

Yes we have an instruction to "not sin", yet we don't follow that instruction!! So our Lord provided forgiveness of sins!! That is in the Bible and what I needed to point out to you! We are not righteous by our deeds!! We are not the Christ!! We need to seek the voice of Jesus Christ, which comes through His Holy Spirit speaking to our spirit. Still we battle with the dark spiritual evil forces of this world. If a person is in the Light (Jesus Christ) they see the battle they have!! They don't deceive themselves into thinking they are the Perfect One! So they confess their sins, to Him who is supposed to be their Lord (Jesus Christ) and He forgives them and keeps working to help them. He helps them to stop doing what is wrong and start doing what is right, but still He said to pray "forgive us our depts" every time we get into the place with God!! The reason is because we need His forgiveness everyday!!

"Not Sinning" is an objective. It is not where we are at. That is why John wrote and I passed on to you:

1 Jn 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us.

Are you doing that? Have you been telling yourself that you have gotten to the point that you no longer have sin? Neither John nor Paul felt that way. They were pressing on towards it.

Phil 3:12 Not that I have already obtained it or have already become perfect, but I press on so that I may lay hold of that for which also I was laid hold of by Christ Jesus.

The fact is: that the more you get to know the Lord the more you realize how far away you are from being like Him, the perfect One! Like Paul, you understand more and more that you are doing the very thing you don't want. You become more and more aware of the principle that evil is present in you. That is why I asked you to go over Romans chapter seven with the Lord. Saul, the Pharisee, thought he was doing right all the time and thus persecuted Christians. Paul the Christian man, who had gotten to know the Lord, because aware that he was a wretched man desperately in need of Jesus Christ who he had gotten to know. When you understand the attitude that Paul had while writing Romans 7 you will have gotten to a better understanding! You will begin to understand how much you need Jesus Christ and how much influence evil has on you!!

So look at and consider these verses - go over them with the Lord and let Him talk to you about how the verses in the Bible go together.

Rom 7:21 I find then the principle that evil is present in me, the one who wants to do good

You are one who wants to do good, are you not? Yet have you found the principle that evil is present in you?

Rom 7:221 For I joyfully concur with the law of God in the inner man,

I believe that you do joyfully concur with the law of God, but do we look into our inner man/woman like we should?

Rom 7:23 but I see a different law in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin which is in my members.

When we looked into our inner man we found the 'waging war' between the law of our mind and the law of sin, did we not? That is the battle with the dark spiritual forces on this world. It is a war that is being wage within us!

Rom 7:24 Wretched man that I am! Who will set me free from the body of this death?

When you see the war being wage inside you, because Jesus Christ the Light of this world has made it clear to you, you understand what a wretched man you are! This understanding brings you to the conclusion in the next verse.

Rom 7:24 Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, on the one hand I myself with my mind am serving the law of God, but on the other, with my flesh the law of sin.

There it is!!!! You wind up extremely grateful to Jesus Christ because you find that on the one hand you are serving the law of God but on the other hand the law of sin with your flesh! It seems like you have not gotten there yet???

 

[robert derrick]

Have you not read that Jesus is the only begotten Son of God?

Jn 3:16 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.

Do you think you are Him??

And concerning us, even those you were listening to Him, Jesus said "If you being evil"! (Mat 7:11 and Luke 11:13)

To understand the Bible of yours, we need to start listening to Him!!

Of course the His Holy Spirit is not the only spirit around!

The verses you were considering were to help you discern between good and evil (Jesus Christ and Satan) yet somehow people start thinking they are now the 'only begotten Son' ???

Yes we have an instruction to "not sin", yet we don't follow that instruction!! So our Lord provided forgiveness of sins!! That is in the Bible and what I needed to point out to you! We are not righteous by our deeds!! We are not the Christ!! We need to seek the voice of Jesus Christ, which comes through His Holy Spirit speaking to our spirit. Still we battle with the dark spiritual evil forces of this world. If a person is in the Light (Jesus Christ) they see the battle they have!! They don't deceive themselves into thinking they are the Perfect One! So they confess their sins, to Him who is supposed to be their Lord (Jesus Christ) and He forgives them and keeps working to help them. He helps them to stop doing what is wrong and start doing what is right, but still He said to pray "forgive us our depts" every time we get into the place with God!! The reason is because we need His forgiveness everyday!!

"Not Sinning" is an objective. It is not where we are at. That is why John wrote and I passed on to you:



Are you doing that? Have you been telling yourself that you have gotten to the point that you no longer have sin? Neither John nor Paul felt that way. They were pressing on towards it.

Phil 3:12 Not that I have already obtained it or have already become perfect, but I press on so that I may lay hold of that for which also I was laid hold of by Christ Jesus.

The fact is: that the more you get to know the Lord the more you realize how far away you are from being like Him, the perfect One! Like Paul, you understand more and more that you are doing the very thing you don't want. You become more and more aware of the principle that evil is present in you. That is why I asked you to go over Romans chapter seven with the Lord. Saul, the Pharisee, thought he was doing right all the time and thus persecuted Christians. Paul the Christian man, who had gotten to know the Lord, because aware that he was a wretched man desperately in need of Jesus Christ who he had gotten to know. When you understand the attitude that Paul had while writing Romans 7 you will have gotten to a better understanding! You will begin to understand how much you need Jesus Christ and how much influence evil has on you!!

So look at and consider these verses - go over them with the Lord and let Him talk to you about how the verses in the Bible go together.

Rom 7:21 I find then the principle that evil is present in me, the one who wants to do good

You are one who wants to do good, are you not? Yet have you found the principle that evil is present in you?

Rom 7:221 For I joyfully concur with the law of God in the inner man,

I believe that you do joyfully concur with the law of God, but do we look into our inner man/woman like we should?

Rom 7:23 but I see a different law in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin which is in my members.

When we looked into our inner man we found the 'waging war' between the law of our mind and the law of sin, did we not? That is the battle with the dark spiritual forces on this world. It is a war that is being wage within us!

Rom 7:24 Wretched man that I am! Who will set me free from the body of this death?

When you see the war being wage inside you, because Jesus Christ the Light of this world has made it clear to you, you understand what a wretched man you are! This understanding brings you to the conclusion in the next verse.

Rom 7:24 Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, on the one hand I myself with my mind am serving the law of God, but on the other, with my flesh the law of sin.

There it is!!!! You wind up extremely grateful to Jesus Christ because you find that on the one hand you are serving the law of God but on the other hand the law of sin with your flesh! It seems like you have not gotten there yet???

Still not addressing the point.

You can continue with your OSAS trash, but committing sin is still committing a sin, committing sin from time to time, and committing sin all the time.

Thanks, but no thanks.

But God shall wound the head of his enemies, and the hairy scalp of such an one as goeth on still in his trespasses.

 

[Karl Peters]

Still not addressing the point.

You can continue with your OSAS trash, but committing sin is still committing a sin, committing sin from time to time, and committing sin all the time.

Thanks, but no thanks.

But God shall wound the head of his enemies, and the hairy scalp of such an one as goeth on still in his trespasses.

The point is that; if you are not seeking the Lord Jesus Christ and actually listening to Him and reasoning with Him you don't even know that you are sinning regularly!!!

All unrighteousness' is sin!!!

But the depts of that statement from Scriptures will not get through to you if you don't listen to Him!! You will wind up persecuting real Christians (those you do hear His voice and listen to Him) and you won't even know it!

Jesus said, 'with their ears they barely hear and with their eyes they don't see'. It is for that reason that a person remains unrepentant, as if they don't do anything wrong. So a Christian is a repentant person, because they realize they do things wrong. That results in them seek the Perfect One (Jesus Christ) who is the Word of God because He alone does and says only what the Father tells Him. You must then know Him, and knowing Him means you listen to Him, and He reproves those He loves, and that reproof means you come to understands that you don't do everything right, and again all unrighteousness is sin.

Still it can, will, and is forgiven - that is to say all except for one sin! That is is unbelief in Him - meaning you don't believe He the Lord of lords, and King of kings is right there to be heard from and reasoned with!! That one bit of unrighteousness, which is nothing more than you telling yourself that you do everything right so you don't need Him, and results in you deceiving yourself into thinking He does not know about all the unrighteousness (sinning) goes unnoticed by Him.

So repent - start praying the Lord's prayer daily which has that request of God to 'forgive us our debts' and also that part about 'as we forgive our debtor's'. If indeed you were praying that daily, then you might start appreciate that you are in debt to God daily because of your sinful nature, which is fully demonstrated by your looking to the speak in the eye of others instead of the log in your own.

If a person hears the Lord and sees what He has to show them, then they understand that people are sinners. They don't seek the Lord like they should. They would even understand that they too are people with those same problems, because He reproves those He loves. They would understand that evil is present in them, that they too have a battle with sin and that battle does on in them. Yet we find those saying they are Christians, who don't know about that battle with sin in them. They say they have no sin, which is simply them deceiving themselves and is not from a relationship with Jesus Christ. He is the light, who lights up and makes you aware of what is going on in you. Yet people purposely close their eyes like the proverbial Ostrich who puts his head in the dirt to not see what is going on. For them the other person is the one doing wrong and they are the person always doing right - yet it is written that all have sinned - and the Bible explains that if anyone says they don't have seen (in a present tense) then they are deceiving themselves. So read and figure out who here is deceiving themselves!

Mat 3:15 FOR THE HEART OF THIS PEOPLE HAS BECOME DULL,
WITH THEIR EARS THEY SCARCELY HEAR,
AND THEY HAVE CLOSED THEIR EYES,
OTHERWISE THEY WOULD SEE WITH THEIR EYES,
HEAR WITH THEIR EARS,
AND UNDERSTAND WITH THEIR HEART AND RETURN,
AND I WOULD HEAL THEM.'


There are a couple of Christian bumper stickers I have seen which seem to describe what being a Christian really feels like:

There is one that goes 'forgiven not perfect'. That is how it is to be a Christian and actually know the Lord. He didn't lie when He said He would reprove us. He is really sweat about how He goes about doing it. He is a lot better than me, but He daily teaches me and that results in reproving me. Everyday I reason with Him and listen to Him respond. Today I was talking to Him about how I think He should remove Putin or at least binding up that lying and murdering spirit that controls Putin. He pointed out that this war that Russia has going clearly points out how the devil works. But do we realize that. Putin looks to blame others. He looks to take control over others. He takes away freedom. He does not turn anyone to God. Putin thinks he is right in all he does. Then He suggested that perhaps I should go post on the Christian forum and at least see if I might turn someone to Him, and convince them that we really do need Him (Jesus Christ) to help us understand what all we do wrong!

So people - please start seeking Jesus Christ and what He actually has to say to you personally. He loves that and those who do seek Him for teaching, counsel, and advice. So He really does reprove those He loves and will do so daily - because you need it!

Rev 3:19,20 Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline; therefore be zealous and repent. ‘Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and will dine with him, and he with Me.

The above verse are instructions for TODAY!

 

[robert derrick]

The point is that; if you are not seeking the Lord Jesus Christ and actually listening to Him and reasoning with Him you don't even know that you are sinning regularly!!!

All unrighteousness' is sin!!!

But the depts of that statement from Scriptures will not get through to you if you don't listen to Him!! You will wind up persecuting real Christians (those you do hear His voice and listen to Him) and you won't even know it!

Jesus said, 'with their ears they barely hear and with their eyes they don't see'. It is for that reason that a person remains unrepentant, as if they don't do anything wrong. So a Christian is a repentant person, because they realize they do things wrong. That results in them seek the Perfect One (Jesus Christ) who is the Word of God because He alone does and says only what the Father tells Him. You must then know Him, and knowing Him means you listen to Him, and He reproves those He loves, and that reproof means you come to understands that you don't do everything right, and again all unrighteousness is sin.

Still it can, will, and is forgiven - that is to say all except for one sin! That is is unbelief in Him - meaning you don't believe He the Lord of lords, and King of kings is right there to be heard from and reasoned with!! That one bit of unrighteousness, which is nothing more than you telling yourself that you do everything right so you don't need Him, and results in you deceiving yourself into thinking He does not know about all the unrighteousness (sinning) goes unnoticed by Him.

So repent - start praying the Lord's prayer daily which has that request of God to 'forgive us our debts' and also that part about 'as we forgive our debtor's'. If indeed you were praying that daily, then you might start appreciate that you are in debt to God daily because of your sinful nature, which is fully demonstrated by your looking to the speak in the eye of others instead of the log in your own.

If a person hears the Lord and sees what He has to show them, then they understand that people are sinners. They don't seek the Lord like they should. They would even understand that they too are people with those same problems, because He reproves those He loves. They would understand that evil is present in them, that they too have a battle with sin and that battle does on in them. Yet we find those saying they are Christians, who don't know about that battle with sin in them. They say they have no sin, which is simply them deceiving themselves and is not from a relationship with Jesus Christ. He is the light, who lights up and makes you aware of what is going on in you. Yet people purposely close their eyes like the proverbial Ostrich who puts his head in the dirt to not see what is going on. For them the other person is the one doing wrong and they are the person always doing right - yet it is written that all have sinned - and the Bible explains that if anyone says they don't have seen (in a present tense) then they are deceiving themselves. So read and figure out who here is deceiving themselves!

Mat 3:15 FOR THE HEART OF THIS PEOPLE HAS BECOME DULL,
WITH THEIR EARS THEY SCARCELY HEAR,
AND THEY HAVE CLOSED THEIR EYES,
OTHERWISE THEY WOULD SEE WITH THEIR EYES,
HEAR WITH THEIR EARS,
AND UNDERSTAND WITH THEIR HEART AND RETURN,
AND I WOULD HEAL THEM.'


There are a couple of Christian bumper stickers I have seen which seem to describe what being a Christian really feels like:

There is one that goes 'forgiven not perfect'. That is how it is to be a Christian and actually know the Lord. He didn't lie when He said He would reprove us. He is really sweat about how He goes about doing it. He is a lot better than me, but He daily teaches me and that results in reproving me. Everyday I reason with Him and listen to Him respond. Today I was talking to Him about how I think He should remove Putin or at least binding up that lying and murdering spirit that controls Putin. He pointed out that this war that Russia has going clearly points out how the devil works. But do we realize that. Putin looks to blame others. He looks to take control over others. He takes away freedom. He does not turn anyone to God. Putin thinks he is right in all he does. Then He suggested that perhaps I should go post on the Christian forum and at least see if I might turn someone to Him, and convince them that we really do need Him (Jesus Christ) to help us understand what all we do wrong!

So people - please start seeking Jesus Christ and what He actually has to say to you personally. He loves that and those who do seek Him for teaching, counsel, and advice. So He really does reprove those He loves and will do so daily - because you need it!

Rev 3:19,20 Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline; therefore be zealous and repent. ‘Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and will dine with him, and he with Me.

The above verse are instructions for TODAY!

But the depts of that statement from Scriptures will not get through to you if you don't listen to Him!!

The simple fact of not addressing the point is not getting through to you.

Like Paul, you understand more and more that you are doing the very thing you don't want. You become more and more aware of the principle that evil is present in you.

Unlike Paul, you seek no deliverance from wretched double mindedness, but are convinced of the lie to continue that way for life.

Your commitment to sin is unto death.

There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.

 

[robert derrick]

The difference between saints and sinners is one of commitment: the saints believe God in Scripture, and the sinners believe themselves in their own minds.

Saints believe the faith of Jesus that commands we cannot sin, but if they do commit sin, they have an advocate in Christ.

Sinners believe their own faith that declares they can and will sin, and when they do commit sin, they are already forgiven in their own minds.

Saints are committed to doing God's righteousness at all times, and sinners are committed to doing their sins again and again.

If we sin is not a commitment to sin, but when we will sin is the commitment to sin.

 

[robert derrick]

Unbelievers that say all Christians are sinners that will sin again and again, is the condemnation of Scripture that it is impossible for them to repent of committing sin: they are committed to sinning unto death, because they believe they will:

For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

Commitment to unrepent sinning unto death cannot be repented of, because of unbelief and willful disobedience to the word of God.

If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.

Scripture says if a saint sins, and if a saint sees a brother sin, then they pray for one another.

They do not pray for sinners committed to sinning again and again unto death, because such sinners are neither saint nor brother.

Why pray for someone not to do what they are committed to doing by their own faith?

 

[Ferris Bueller]

The Christian life is about growing up into the qualities of the Spirit, more and more...

"...goodness; and to goodness, knowledge; 6and to knowledge, self-control; and to self-control, perseverance; and to perseverance, godliness; 7and to godliness, mutual affection; and to mutual affection, love. 8For if you possess these qualities in increasing measure, they will keep you from being ineffective and unproductive in your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ." 2 Peter 1:6-7​

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Commitment to unrepent sinning unto death cannot be repented of, because of unbelief and willful disobedience to the word of God.

'Unrepentant' being the key word here.
The person who is living a lifestyle of unrepentant, willful sin is, ultimately, showing themselves to not be saved at all.

We have to examine ourselves and see what our struggle is with. The struggle with righteousness signifies you are unsaved. The struggle with sin signifies you are saved. When your enemy becomes sin you can know you have the grace of God at work in you in a saving relationship with God. When your enemy is doing right you know you still have the flesh in charge and at work in you in lostness.

 

[robert derrick]

The Christian life is about growing up into the qualities of the Spirit, more and more...

"...goodness; and to goodness, knowledge; 6and to knowledge, self-control; and to self-control, perseverance; and to perseverance, godliness; 7and to godliness, mutual affection; and to mutual affection, love. 8For if you possess these qualities in increasing measure, they will keep you from being ineffective and unproductive in your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ." 2 Peter 1:6-7​

The Christian life is about growing up into the qualities of the Spirit, more and more...

Which does not include commitment to sin, which is why them that do so shall not fall:

Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall.

It is certain that sinners committed to sinning shall commit sin again and again, and saints born of God keeping the faith of Jesus cannot commit sin and shall not fall.

 

[robert derrick]

The Christian life is about growing up into the qualities of the Spirit, more and more...

"...goodness; and to goodness, knowledge; 6and to knowledge, self-control; and to self-control, perseverance; and to perseverance, godliness; 7and to godliness, mutual affection; and to mutual affection, love. 8For if you possess these qualities in increasing measure, they will keep you from being ineffective and unproductive in your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ." 2 Peter 1:6-7​

Scripture says growing up with the fruit of the Spirit abundantly.

Which does not begin until commitment to sinning again ends:

The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

 

[robert derrick]

'Unrepentant' being the key word here.
The person who is living a lifestyle of unrepentant, willful sin is, ultimately, showing themselves to not be saved at all.

We have to examine ourselves and see what our struggle is with. The struggle with righteousness signifies you are unsaved. The struggle with sin signifies you are saved. When your enemy becomes sin you can know you have the grace of God at work in you in a saving relationship with God. When your enemy is doing right you know you still have the flesh in charge and at work in you in lostness.

'Unrepentant' being the key word here.

Committing sin is the key point of Scripture.

The person who is living a lifestyle of unrepentant, willful sin is, ultimately, showing themselves to not be saved at all.

True. And willful commitment to sinning again and again for life is wilful unrepented sin unto death:

For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins.

But God shall wound the head of his enemies, and the hairy scalp of such an one as goeth on still in his trespasses.

OSAS doctrine of unconditional salvation for sinners who will sin again and again unto the end, is the devil's doctrine of commitment to go on sinning again and again unto death.

Neither God nor the devil cares what people think and say, but only what we do.

The devil has no problem hearing people say Lord, Lord with their lips, so long as their hearts remain committed to serving him from time to time unto death.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

OSAS doctrine of unconditional salvation for sinners who will sin again and again unto the end, is the devil's doctrine of commitment to go on sinning again and again unto death.

And that is the danger of this new OSAS in the church these days (as opposed to Calvin's OSAS). The new OSAS teaches people in the church that a lifestyle of unrepentant sin doesn't matter, because salvation is not by works. The old OSAS, Calvin's OSAS, taught that your lifestyle of sin showed you were never really saved to begin with.

 

[robert derrick]

'Unrepentant' being the key word here.
The person who is living a lifestyle of unrepentant, willful sin is, ultimately, showing themselves to not be saved at all.

We have to examine ourselves and see what our struggle is with. The struggle with righteousness signifies you are unsaved. The struggle with sin signifies you are saved. When your enemy becomes sin you can know you have the grace of God at work in you in a saving relationship with God. When your enemy is doing right you know you still have the flesh in charge and at work in you in lostness.

The struggle with righteousness signifies you are unsaved. The struggle with sin signifies you are saved.

Struggling lacks commitment.

Good sinners around the world struggle with doing good or evil. Knowing we ought to do good and not evil justifies no man with God.

In the doctrine of Christ, 'Struggling' with sin or righteousness signifies double mindedness of commitment.

Overcoming sin proves we are being saved, and so long as we endure temptation unto the end, we shall be saved and obtain the eternal inheritance of Christ.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Scripture says growing up with the fruit of the Spirit abundantly.

Which does not begin until commitment to sinning again ends:

...Which should be the moment you are saved. I mean it was for me. It does seem that people who start out in Christ without that desire to stop sinning are the ones who struggle the most with the faith and fall away.

 

[atpollard]

[Song of Songs 2:15 NASB]

"Catch the foxes for us,
The little foxes that are ruining the vineyards,
While our vineyards are in blossom."​

 

[Ferris Bueller]

The struggle with righteousness signifies you are unsaved. The struggle with sin signifies you are saved.

Struggling lacks commitment.

Struggling with sin signifies one's desire to not live in it, but rather to live in righteousness.

Before I got saved, righteousness was the alien thing that tried to invade my life on occasion and which I struggled with. After I got saved, sin became the alien thing that tries to invade my life on occasion and which I struggle with.

"In your struggle against sin..." Hebrews 12:4​