Conspiracy, or not a conspiracy. That is the question.

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Enoch111

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It seems like things are accelerating.
They would quickly decelerate if one or two dozen people -- who are the primary conspirators (including Schwab) -- were permanently removed from the scene. It is only a handful of very evil people who are working on the destruction and enslavement of the world. Take them out and things will return to normal. By now everyone should know who these people are.
 
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Actually, this plan has been in place for much longer than the Obama era. This is Mystery Babylon at work. What we are seeing today is the continuation of the plan. It's just that they are ramping things up and being more blatant about it. They've seen that the world population in large part are pliable and compliant enough that they can be more blatant.
 

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They would quickly decelerate if one or two dozen people -- who are the primary conspirators (including Schwab) -- were permanently removed from the scene. It is only a handful of very evil people who are working on the destruction and enslavement of the world. Take them out and things will return to normal. By now everyone should know who these people are.
Not so simple bro. Babylon has been around for 5000 years and it's comprised of a great deal more than just a few evil people. There are entire institutions, secret societies, and corporations united together with governments all over the world bringing to pass the final movements of world history. Who you see at the forefront such as Schwaub, Prince Charles, George Soros, Biden, even the current Pope, are only spokesmen for a vast interlocked powerful coterie of conspirators forming one great conglomerate, literally of biblical proportions. It is like a vast army and they have representatives in all Government departments, NGOs, educational institutions, religious seminaries, and religious orders. Some of course are more senior than others. But knocking off Prince Charles and a few other leaders will not hold back the momentum.
There is only one answer to empower people against the current onslaught. Only one thing to withstand the soon impending globalist overreach. Only one mechanism for avoiding the mark of the beast now being promoted throughout the world (and it is... More on that later). The seal of God. If you have the seal of God in your forehead, there is no need to be bothered by a man's mark.
 

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Not so simple bro. Babylon has been around for 5000 years and it's comprised of a great deal more than just a few evil people. There are entire institutions, secret societies, and corporations united together with governments all over the world bringing to pass the final movements of world history. Who you see at the forefront such as Schwaub, Prince Charles, George Soros, Biden, even the current Pope, are only spokesmen for a vast interlocked powerful coterie of conspirators forming one great conglomerate, literally of biblical proportions. It is like a vast army and they have representatives in all Government departments, NGOs, educational institutions, religious seminaries, and religious orders. Some of course are more senior than others. But knocking off Prince Charles and a few other leaders will not hold back the momentum.
There is only one answer to empower people against the current onslaught. Only one thing to withstand the soon impending globalist overreach. Only one mechanism for avoiding the mark of the beast now being promoted throughout the world (and it is... More on that later). The seal of God. If you have the seal of God in your forehead, there is no need to be bothered by a man's mark.
Thanks Backlit, you've pulled that together very succinctly.
 

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Not so simple bro. Babylon has been around for 5000 years and it's comprised of a great deal more than just a few evil people.

It is not as you are presenting as you have Babylon occurring before Noah's Flood.

Babylon occurred Closer to the time of Abraham's early life before he left Ur, rather than before the flood.

Shalom
 

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It is not as you are presenting as you have Babylon occurring before Noah's Flood.

Babylon occurred Closer to the time of Abraham's early life before he left Ur, rather than before the flood.

Shalom
Babel presented before Noah's flood. The principle from which Babylon derives its name and therefore called 'the great' is as long as time.
 
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Jay Ross

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Babel presented before Noah's flood. The principle from which Babylon derives its name and therefore called 'the great' is as long as time.

Biblical References thanks to support your claim. If not the source reference for this theory.
 
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It is not as you are presenting as you have Babylon occurring before Noah's Flood.

Babylon occurred Closer to the time of Abraham's early life before he left Ur, rather than before the flood.

Shalom
The mindset that created the philosophy that formed the foundation of babel... Self preservation and self exaltation... Began with Lucifer before creation. Manifested itself here in Eden when A&E hid from God, and grew from them on. I am sorry for my generalisation regarding the precise timing...I think though I could have said yesterday and still been accurate.
 

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Surely you must know the story of the Tower of Babel JR....the inherent meaning of babel being confusion.

So you are not prepared to answer the question, but instead you have attempted to turn the burden of proof for your claims back onto myself. Sorry that does not wash well with me. It confirms that you are building a theology out of the silence of the scriptures.
 
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The mindset that created the philosophy that formed the foundation of babel... Self preservation and self exaltation... Began with Lucifer before creation. Manifested itself here in Eden when A&E hid from God, and grew from them on. I am sorry for my generalisation regarding the precise timing...I think though I could have said yesterday and still been accurate.

So where is this theory to be found in the Scriptures? You are creating a theological theory out of the silence of the scriptures. It simply does not wash well at all.
 

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So you are not prepared to answer the question, but instead you have attempted to turn the burden of proof for your claims back onto myself. Sorry that does not wash well with me. It confirms that you are building a theology out of the silence of the scriptures.
It confirms JR, that you don't know the scriptures and are too lazy to make the effort and do a search.
Google will point you to any of the references you are asking for......then you will know it is not my spin on the matter.
 
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Satan is the god of this would and would never allow it.
Satan's the chief architect.
KJV Revelation 13:1-2
1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
 

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So where is this theory to be found in the Scriptures? You are creating a theological theory out of the silence of the scriptures. It simply does not wash well at all.
Babylon was built on the ruins and on the philosophical foundations of Babel. As QT told you, confusion. Confusion is now the most apt description for modem Christianity. No-one wants to agree with anyone anymore... Using the minutest excuses for going it alone. Setting aside foundational truths in favor of preconceived opinions and using the flimsiest of reasons for doing so. Like you did on this thread.
The evidence for a global conspiracy led by occult secret societies and the Vatican is in your face and here you are arguing over a few hundred year difference in the establishment of babel and it's obvious connections to Babylon.
 

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Note. Must participate... Must be transformed...
There is not going to be any options here. Governments will be forced to embrace this great new inclusive reform. Welcome to your brave new world.

Same speech different era.

God gives us KNOWLEDGE.
God teaches FEAR.
God reveals His TRUTH.
God teaches TRUST HIM.
God teaches the Lord is our SAVIOR.

Men SPOUT "their" KNOWLEDGE.
Men establish and promote FEAR.
Men promote "their" TRUTHS.
Men promote TO TRUST "THEM".
Men teach "THEY" are "the SAVIOR."

"These" MEN are anti- Christ's "OF" the World, full of fluffy words, with An END Means (at any cost) Goal;
* Eliminate people they deem not useful.
* Confiscate the World's Wealth.
* Totally Control the World, People, Things.

"These" MEN "ARE" footsoldiers for Satan.

God "OFFERS" Freewill.
"These" Men offer "FORCE".

* Observe "their" MEANS (at any cost)...
• PAY people TO LIE, CHEAT, STEAL.
• Collude, Plot, Plan underground.
• Establish promote 24-7 FALSE fears.
• Threaten, Bully, Separate, Corral, Slander...
SILENCE

WHO ya going TRUST?
The Lord God or anti-Christ's "OF" the world?

Col 2:
[8] Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

• Rudiments is an unperfected form.
Men can not PERFECT the World, regardless of the LIES they spout, the fluffy PROMISES they make, Your WEALTH they say you must PAY to accomplish "their" LIE.

The Saving and Perfection OF the World...IS Appointed unto Christ to Accomplish.
(John 4:42)

Take that mask off your mouth...
Come out of Separation and Hiding...
BE NOT Silent;
BE as Christ Restored you and Quickened you and shown His Light ON you...
to be His Reflection.

God Bless,
Taken
 

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Conspiracy, or not a conspiracy. That is the question.
OP ^

Same conspiracy...
different era, different players,
Improved deceptive tactical methods.

 
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