Contending with the devil

[Matthias]

From my X / Twitter “For you” feed this afternoon -

“Prayer is a weapon for which the devil has no answer.”

((David Jeremiah)

https://x.com/davidjeremiah/status/1958941027789672911?s=61

 

[dak]

”To many men, less mature in their theological thinking than the readers of this Journal are likely to be, the foregoing question presents subject full of puzzling difficulties. Rarely, if ever, does the ordinary Sunday-school lesson or pastor’s sermon throw a ray of clear light upon it. The gospel accounts of demon possession are commonly taken at their face value, and the interpreter gravely explains that during the lifetime of Jesus there was a special activity on the part of the hellish hosts, Satan rallying all his organization in opposition to Jesus.

In my calendar studies, and the chronology of the world, and the seventy generations of Sefer Henok, (Enoch 10:12-13), the seventy generations of Henok are 3640 years ending at 1BC, (from 3641BC to 1BC), which are generations of 52 years, (52*70=3640). The timing of the release of the Watchers coincides with both the death of Herod and the Advent. Moreover in the genealogy of Luke there are seventy generations from Henok to the Meshiah at about age 30. This would be the period of "special activity" mentioned by the author in the above which I quoted from your post: for the worst of the worst were released in that time, the period of the Advent of Meshiah. However that does not mean that unclean spirits are not still active to this day, for all of the giants produced by the Watchers were both physical and spirit according to Henok, and when they died their carcasses were not judged because they decomposed: but their spirits became unclean spirits roaming the earth, (see: Enoch 15, the whole chapter, which isn't very long).

 

[Hiddenthings]

However that does not mean that unclean spirits are not still active to this day, for all of the giants produced by the Watchers were both physical and spirit according to Henok, and when they died their carcasses were not judged because they decomposed: but their spirits became unclean spirits roaming the earth, (see: Enoch 15, the whole chapter, which isn't very long).

Are you seriously suggesting that, Dak? It seems you've set aside God's Word in favor of Jewish mythology - explains a lot though.

 

[Matthias]

 

[Behold]

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Hes the "Father of it".

-Jesus

 

[Matthias]

Hes the "Father of it".

-Jesus

He, the devil, says that he, the devil, doesn’t exist. The Christadelphians, unfortunately, agree with the devil.

There’s nothing you or anyone else can say to a Christadelphian that will separate them from the devil.

 

[Behold]

He, the devil, says that he, the devil, doesn’t exist. The Christadelphians, unfortunately, agree with the devil.

Calvinism and espeically Hyper-Calvinism protects the devil.

How?

They teach that God is in charge of all the evil in the world.

So, to teach that , is to literally teach that God is doing the Devil's work for Him.

That's incredible Blasphemy.

 

[Matthias]

Calvinism and espeically Hyper-Calvinism protects the devil.

The Christadelphians aren’t Calvinists.

How?

They teach that God is in charge of all the evil in the world.

So, to teach that , is to literally teach that God is doing the Devil's work for Him.

That's incredible Blasphemy.

 

[dak]

Are you seriously suggesting that, Dak? It seems you've set aside God's Word in favor of Jewish mythology - explains a lot though.

It seems you walk according to your belly; which is a curse upon the old man serpent nature from the beginning.

 

[Matthias]

Hes the "Father of it".

-Jesus

“The devil isn’t real, Jesus.”

- Christadelphians

 

[Hiddenthings]

It seems you walk according to your belly; which is a curse upon the old man serpent nature from the beginning.

It looks like you're well ahead of Matthias in terms of understanding!

 

[Hiddenthings]

@dak I'm not surprised you are still hurting dak...but in time you might see what real faith is built on!

 

[dak]

It looks like you're well ahead of Matthias in terms of understanding!

And why could you not see the difference at the beginning of our discussions? I warned you that you were spreading false witness and lies about me at that time when you started running around the board spreading rumors and lies about me even behind my back in threads where I had not even posted. Every instance you will surely answer for because it is the Spirit of my Father you were lying about.

The old man and the respecter of persons, he is the head: the false prophet teaching lies, he is the tail. (Yeshayah-Isaiah 9:15). And thus the old man nature walks under the power of the prince of the power of the air and the spirit of the world, which we have spoken much about.

Christadelphians, the Devil and Satan

A word of advice to my readers. Consult scripture, Bible dictionaries, Bible commentaries, Church history, etc. The Christadelphians can’t budge on their dogma. Decide for yourselves but don’t be sucked in by “It doesn’t agree with us so it is ______ and you are ______.” (Fill in the blank...

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And your response:

Ha! I needed that laugh! connecting Daniel 10 with Eph 2 - what a joke. Not even going to entertain such madness.

Reread what follows in the discussion: you rejected both the Testimony of the Master himself as well as the testimony of Paul, over and over and over again: and now you have proven yourself to be a son of Qain.

 

[Hiddenthings]

And why could you not see the difference at the beginning of our discussions? I warned you that you were spreading false witness and lies about me at that time when you started running around the board spreading rumors and lies about me even behind my back in threads where I had not even posted. Every instance you will surely answer for because it is the Spirit of my Father you were lying about.

You sound paranoid dak...you're hurting because I've pressed you hard on the Covenant that saves and all you want to do is heed the one which cursed.

The old man and the respecter of persons, he is the head: the false prophet teaching lies, he is the tail. (Yeshayah-Isaiah 9:15). And thus the old man nature walks under the power of the prince of the power of the air and the spirit of the world, which we have spoken much about.

Actually, these symbols point to the religious authorities of that time, and also to those in the latter days. There is no fallen angel in the Word of God. You of all people should know this!

 

[Hiddenthings]

"Christadeiphians are really Christians"

-Jesus

Matthias is hurting. Behold, he initiated this situation months ago, and what has followed is a continuous stream of evidence demonstrating that his fallacies reflect the wisdom of men, not truth. He has employed every tactic in his arsenal, yet none have succeeded in revealing the identity of even a single divine arch-enemy of God.

 

[marks]

Actually, these symbols point to the religious authorities of that time, and also to those in the latter days. There is no fallen angel in the Word of God. You of all people should know this!

Ephesians 2:2 KJV
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

There is an archon, translated prince, whose territory is "the air", who is called a spirit that is working in the children of disobedience.

That's pretty specific to me.

Jude 1:6 KJV
And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

. . . left their own oiketerion, a word used one other place in the Bible:

2 Corinthians 5:1-2 KJV
1) For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.
2) For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven:

So what did these angels leave? Their celestial body. Again, very clear.

Much love!

 

[Behold]

There is no fallen angel in the Word of God. You of all people should know this!

Jesus said that He beheld Lucifer fall from Heaven.

This is the same being who tempted Eve.

This is the same being that Paul defined as "Satan" hindered us from coming to you = Thessalonians """

Paul defines Him also as "the Devil" when Paul told the Chritians to "put on the whole armor of God to withstand the Devil's assault". ("wiles of the Devil")

 

[marks]

You sound paranoid dak...you're hurting because I've pressed you hard on

We all have opinions, and nothing says we have to share them.

But when you feel compelled, ask yourself, why is it I want to say this? Does it make me feel better/stronger/smarter/cleverer/in control? I think by and large that's why we say these sorts of things.

Much love

 

[Hiddenthings]

Ephesians 2:2 KJV
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

There is an archon, translated prince, whose territory is "the air", who is called a spirit that is working in the children of disobedience.

That's pretty specific to me.

Jude 1:6 KJV
And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

. . . left their own oiketerion, a word used one other place in the Bible:

2 Corinthians 5:1-2 KJV
1) For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.
2) For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven:

So what did these angels leave? Their celestial body. Again, very clear.

Much love!

You may hold a view of chaos and disorder in God’s house in heaven, and you are entitled to that perspective. I, however, will follow the Master’s lead on this one, Marks.

Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be Your name.
Your kingdom come,
Your will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.

This is yet another Scripture you seem not to believe.

I encourage you, Marks, to at least make an effort to discern the symbolic language, please try to engage with it.

 

[Hiddenthings]

Jesus said that He beheld Lucifer fall from Heaven.

No, he didn't say that Behold but I'll give you the opportunity to correct yourself.