Corruption between Vatican officials and Victoria state police

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Cristo Rei

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Cardinal Giovanni Angelo Becciu resigned last month after the Vatican laid charges on him relating to bribes made towards Australian and Victorian officials to have Cardinal George Pell convicted of child abuse and locked away.

George Pell was inteed convicted for child abuse and spent over 100 days in prison before the high court of Australia ruled him to be not guilt of the charges and ordered him to be freed...


Cardinal George Pell cleaned up the disgraceful child abuse that was happening in Victorian catholic churches. He was then called to clean up the NSW as well before being called up by the Vatican to clean up the financial mess within... This when former Cardinal Giovanni Angelo Becciu is said to have sent millions of dollars in money to bribe the Victoria police and justice system...


Corruption in the Victoria police force and justice system has been well documented in the last decade... And their anti-Christian position has been clear with the attack on Christian values and on George Pell himself...

But despite the allegations being made by the Vatican, the Victorian police are refusing to investigate the claims... Why won't they investigate? It's obvious that they don't want to get found accepting bribe money from corrupt Vatican officials...

Victoria police won't investigate claims of Vatican money transfers to Australia linked to Pell case
Alleged Vatican payments linked to George Pell case referred to Victorian corruption watchdog
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Australian police not investigating Vatican money transfer
Australia's Victoria state police no longer investigating Vatican money transfers
 

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Hmmm, I heard about this, I didn't know there was such rivalry in the Vatican though, before hearing about it.
 

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I always thought Pell was one of the better ones in the RCC, but he knew of all this child abuse, hell if I knew about such and many I came across knew about such goings on, but we were totally powerless to deal with such an issue, it all fell on deaf ears and we made out to be the bad ones for even bring such an issue up, that goes for the police as well, not the local cop but the ones right up high, there is much involvement in covering up, even on TV I seen one cop looking into much of all this was to stop all he had investigated and hand over all that he had to the ones right up the top, he was pissed off and resigned because of such Nazi type of bastard tactics dealing with such up top.

Oh yes within the RCC has been split for years, right from Vatican 2 on, only the rat bags have been winning more control from that time on.
 

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I always thought Pell was one of the better ones in the RCC, but he knew of all this child abuse

Pell knew about the accusations but accepted the word of his superiors when they said it was false...
He was deceived by his superiors and there is no evidence to show us otherwise...
 

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The refusal of Victoria police to investigate this matter is a clear reflection of their corruption once again...

 

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Things can get Tangled quickly, and have for eons, all around the world.

The Vatican City Is A Sovereign State (World wide recognized and accepted as a Sovereign Country)

The upper Status... Pope, Cardinals, etc....ARE Declared Citizens of the Vatican City.

Very FEW Cardinals LIVE in the Vatican City.
They Live in "Foreign" Countries.
They are typically...Foreign Nationalists, Representatives, Diplomats, Aliens, etc. In the Foreign Country in which they "reside".

Which "those" ^ foreign recognition "titles" (as a foreign Diplomat for example) "MEANS",
"EXEMPTION / IMMUNITY FROM", certain Laws OF the Country, where they ARE residing.

There is also the FACTOR- of PLACES.
Meaning- The Building. Church Building. Rectory, Grounds, owned Vehicles.

So it is Two Fold-
•The Individual PERSON- citizen of Foreign Country...with certain Exemptions/Immunities
•Property- OF the Foreign Country...with certain Exemptions/ Immunities.

(Sort of like countries having Embassies in Foreign Countries...the Building, Grounds, Vehicles, Personal...Exempt/Immune To Certain laws of the Country where the Buildings and Personal are situated.)

Conducting Business- Interaction between Diplomats and citizens "of the country"...
Gets Sticky...BECAUSE...OF JURISDICTIONAL AUTHORITY.

A Diplomat In a foreign country With IMMUNITY...IS immune to Punishment BY the foreign country in which they reside.

It "is" supposed to Be...a Wrong Doing, by a Diplomat "Reported" To "The county head, where the Diplomats Citizenship is".
Their Government head, "is supposed to Conduct Investigations, of the charged Wrong Doing", and punish According To "their Investigative Fingings According To their Law".

(And BTW- internal Investigations Do Not Have To BE, and Rarely Are, Published FOR the Public at Large TO SEE and Read).

Those Things ^^ Have Been a Long standing- complication- FOR Numerous Catholics... who ARE citizens of "Their Country"... BUT YET having "Relationships" WITH a Foreign Diplomats (Cardinals/Priests), ON Foriegn Immune grounds ( Churches, Rectories )...
Then have NO satisfaction of recourse to Report Wrong Doings TO "their Government Police".
They certainly MAY report a Wrong Doing TO, the Carninal...and He Report To the Vatican City, But (seemingly), the Investigative "Facts" are scant, and unverifible, Irrelevant...and the "Victim of the Wrong Doing"...remains the victim and the Wrong Doing; And the Do-er remains in Position to continue Wrong doing, with more caution of descreetness.

As far as "Donations" from a Foreign Diplomat TO a Local- Anything- Charity- Government- Police...There IS "INTENT" and "PROTOCAL".

A difference Between;
... intended BRIBARY...For Return of Favors;
Or:
... intended CHARITY...For Well being with Nothing in return

Governments are Run by men...
Businesses are Run by men...
Churches are Run by men...
Schools, Prisons, Households, Employment, Friendships, etc. ARE Run by men.
Keeping in Mind...
Few are acceptable TO The Lord God.
Few will conduct upright business between men.

A man Can Accept Jesus" Offering and BE Secure in His "Relationship With" the Lord God...BY the Power of God.

But folks, you are on your own, (For Gain or Loss) when it comes To any "Relationship Between" men.

Choose Wisely, with whom / or what you will be Yoked.
Flee Quickly, when you discover what you thought WAS, IS NOT.

Gal 6:
[5] For every man shall bear his own burden.

Glory to God,
Taken
 
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Yes I remember when I was 8yo at the club that my dad was drinking after we finished working that day a bloke was telling a story crying about being raped by Priest and then another in a Pub when I was around 15 I think after work with my dad, I was on the hard stuff double sarsaparilla.
Others I came across and worked with one who was a prison guard in the worst prison and he said people were raped everyday in their and he thought nothing of it at all.
People are still being raped in jails nowadays and I ask does anyone truly care, well they clearly don't because nothing has been done about such at all.
 
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People are still being raped in jails nowadays and I ask does anyone truly care, well they clearly don't because nothing has been done about such at all

I care... Being a former inmate i care about all prison matters... Getting gang raped was the thing i feared the most before going in...
But in the low security prison i went to i didn't see any signs of rape or of any sexual acts being performed...
 

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I care... Being a former inmate i care about all prison matters... Getting gang raped was the thing i feared the most before going in...
But in the low security prison i went to i didn't see any signs of rape or of any sexual acts being performed...
The worst Jail in VIC at the time. Pentridge ? max in the 1980's he was a screw in. he came to QLD and then he went back because they were getting old and all their family lived their.

I know a few who were raped in Jail.

One bloke that I knew who was more of a mate of mines that he knocked around with, got into trouble with the law and went to Jail for it and his parents set bail got him out but he knew he was going to go back in again. well they raped him and he was a big bloke who could fight well and that was one of the reason why he was going back in, he did the right thing and defended his home from dedicated criminals that the Law had aided abetted because of their race and because he bashed 3 of them up and at his home then another time they tried to bash him up again and he bashed them up again 5 against him mind you, he ended up that he broke of a fence post and lay into them.
Well being total criminals all their lives been busted many a time, well they knew the Law better than anyone in how to go about getting off and him convicted.
I know them criminals well I went to school with them from grade 3 on and they would boast to everyone what they stole the next day at school. cops did not want to know anything they were that frightened of them because they had Lawyers that were backed up by the ALP proudly donated by the tax payers. look they knew how to get off going to Jail, they told me how it was done, some times they got done for it but not go to jail until maybe 20 of 40 times that they got caught. one who is a aboriginal mate of mine got caught and they listed everything he got caught for and it took up 2 and a half pages of the newspaper. he was a good bloke that lived in a church home as he was stolen gen, but he went and lived with the trash ones when he was old enough to leave the home. I seen him come out of the bushes and punch out a tourist and steel his wallet. the cops could not care one bit if it was a abo doing trouble, they would just close the book directly, they had to ! because it made them look bad having so many abos on the books in such a regard, the media would have a field day if the truth was on the books and all the way up the ladder politically they had to cover up the truth and let such run wild on the public to deal with.
So old mate protecting himself from savages goes to jail and then he was saying to me and my mate all about it and that he was not going back in jail to be gang raped again. so the day before he was to go back to court he killed himself, drove his mums car into a power pole flat out on the highway, he was only 21yo.
It was the fence post that he used was his downfall in court.

My abo mate mentioned he was attacked by a dude who puled up with a carload of people got out swing a tyre leaver and my mate got it off him and used it on the attacker, well my mate went to jail for being attacked as well, he went a bit too far but so you would given the situation.