The Catholic Church and the young newly elected Pope

[Reggie Belafonte]

SECOND VATICAN COUNCIL
The 16 Documents


Those are the documents of Vatican II. But you condemn them all like the Christian Taliban, have never read any of them, and pass yourself off as an expert?
Pope Paul VI died of a heart attack, not a mob. Any encyclopedia will verify this. You made up "mob"
The successor of Pope Paul VI was Pope John Paul 1. He lasted 1 month, but even then you refuse to see what he stood for. His successor was St. Pope John Paul II, and wrote many of the Vatican II documents that you are irrationally afraid of. "Expose the satanists"? You have the last 5 popes reduced to cartoon characters of your own invention.
Here are the documents of Vatican II that you pathetically mock, but have never read any of them. Documents of Vatican II

Your take on Cardinal Pell reflects typical media persecution.

The Australian judicial system, at least as applied to Cardinal George Pell, is not comprehensible to Americans. In this country, the accused knows the identity of his accuser when charges are pressed. Pell was denied this right. In this country, the accused knows exactly what the charges against him are when they are made. Pell was denied this right.

In this country, the media have wide access to court proceedings and can report what they learn. In Australia, the media have limited rights and can be banned from reporting almost anything. In this country, the prosecuting and defense attorneys can question prospective jurors, vetoing those they consider biased. They have no such rule in the Australian state of Victoria, the venue of the Pell trial, which means the jury can easily be stacked against him. Victoria is known as a very liberal, and not Catholic-friendly, part of the country.

On May 1, the most serious charges against Pell were dismissed by the court. Following this decision, Australian reporter Andrew Bolt wrote, “All I can say is that several claims against Pell that were pushed by the media never even reached this courtroom and have been debunked.”

The latest development adds to the absurdities surrounding this case.

A Victoria County Court staff member has been fired for allegedly retrieving information about the Pell case from the court’s computer system. The prosecutors wasted no time asking the court to ban “any report of the whole or any part of these proceedings and any information derived from this proceeding and any court documents associated with this proceeding.”

This is a wild swing of the pendulum. After the media savaged Pell for years, tainting prospective jurors, prosecutors are now asking for a total gag rule.

In 2016, Bolt wrote, “There is something utterly repulsive about the media’s persecution of George Pell.” In 2017, he wrote, “The media commentary suggest there is little chance Cardinal George Pell can get a fair trial.” Amanda Vanstone, a reporter not regarded as religion-friendly, went further. “What we are seeing is no better than a lynch mob from the dark ages,” she said.

The little we know of Pell’s accusers validates the position of the Catholic League: Pell is the subject of a witch hunt. Indeed, he is the whipping boy of those seeking revenge against the Catholic Church. Yes, there were some admittedly lousy decisions made by Catholic priests and bishops in the past, but that is no excuse for plundering the rights of Cardinal Pell.

Consider the charges against Pell that were tossed and those that are extant.

One of the charges against Pell that was thrown out involves an unspecified incident that allegedly occurred 40 years ago in a theater during the screening of the movie “Close Encounters of the Third Kind.” But a cinema worker said he never saw Pell at the theater. Moreover, the movie was not shown at that theater on the date of the alleged offense.

The other charge that was made occurred sometime after the movie offense allegedly happened. But in addition to saying he was abused at a chapel, the accuser changed his mind saying the offense took place in a playground. He also said it took place on a mountain. The judge dismissed the charge saying the accuser showed a “cavalier attitude” and a “poor memory.”

What’s left? Charges that Pell abused boys in the 1970s while he was throwing them in the air in a swimming pool in front of others. One of the accusers has since died of cancer. One of the others has a record of violence, alcohol and drug abuse, and burglary. We know nothing about any other accusers.

Two men made the other charge. They said Pell made them perform oral sex on him in the 1990s after Mass at St. Patrick’s Cathedral. One of the accusers has since died of drug abuse. Oh, yes, the mother of the boy who died said her son told her on two occasions that he was never abused by Pell.

To say that this is a travesty of justice is a gross understatement. They have put Cardinal Pell through hell. None of this is by accident.

Please keep Cardinal George Pell in your prayers.
CAN CARDINAL PELL EVER GET A FAIR TRIAL?

You are just part of the secular dark ages lynch mob. You have a psychotic hatred for Catholicism that is so far from reality it's almost funny. Then you post lies on discussion boards. That makes you a forum sadist.

As for Pell I agree with you on that for sure, I believe him to be a good man and the Satanist are after him in every way they can, hook or by crook.

As for Pope Paul VI he was a good man but a imposter took over as claiming to be him, it's been said that his family and good friends said that it was not him. also this imposter changed at that point becoming or pushing more along the hard line Vatican II line.

Pope John Paul I was a good man but he was killed, they caused the heart attack and it was all covered up, one can see that such was covered up because it was not open to the public but hidden in detail as much as they could. very badly done in my opinion of it all, you can say what you want, but I say it was very underhanded the way it was all conducted, so it all looks very bad when one looks into it all.

The Zionist so called Jews won WW2 and their mates the Jesuits are Zionist Satanist they were in bed with the Nazi Zionist, Hitler was a Zionist Jew it was he who supported them full on and they were killing true Jews who did not support the Socialist so called Zionist.
This Zionist mob are not Biblical Zion at all and that's a fact and the true Jews back in the 1930's 40's 50's knew this totally, such true Jewish people were in shock when the Zionist put that Satanic flag up with the Moloch Star on it claiming to be Israel, when it should Truly be the Menorah on the Flag in fact to be truly Jewish and every worthy true Jew knows this to be a fact and they were pissed off about it back in the day.
Any true Christian knows what that Star represents because it's Biblical St Stephen pointed it out for what it truly was Jesus pointed them out for who they truly are Murders from the beginning.
But do we here Priest nowadays pointing out the fact that the Biblical points out in fact NO! they hide this fact, because they are of Satan.
Most so called Christians are morons if they do not know this, why do the Priest hide run away from what the Bible says nowadays ? because they are not preaching Jesus Christ but a social doctrine of mans works with another Jesus.
I ask hey Priest why don't you come out and Preach what St Stephen said, and you watch them turn and run away nowadays. because this points out who the so called Jew were controlled by in fact, it was not God the Father but their father the Devil, as Jesus pointed this out. if they had believed in Holy Moses they would of known who Jesus was, Just like Nathaniel did who was a 'true Israelite' Jesus said this in fact. but idiots cast this aside nowadays and claim so called Zionist to be gods people, what morons they are to swallow that crap.

I pray of Pell to come out and be totally honest and say what he truly thinks from the heart, like saying yes there are Sodomites in the Church priesthood but they are just to powerful and the reasons why such is so.
Pope JP 2 said about this for years but he was powerless to deal with it all, he sent out letters all the time about this and this totally angered many priest and Pope Ben could not deal with the power of it as well. but Pope Frances has welcomed them.

I am not of a lynch mob as all I say is come out with the truth for crying out loud and I am sick of the cover ups, it's this that drives people out of the church, I feel sick to death of it all because it cast a bad light on Jesus Christ in the eyes of so many and such just totally pisses me off.
I love Jesus Christ but I don't idolise people or some trashy run church that's full of lies and full of Sodomites.

 

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As for Pell I agree with you on that for sure, I believe him to be a good man and the Satanist are after him in every way they can, hook or by crook.

As for Pope Paul VI he was a good man but a imposter took over as claiming to be him, it's been said that his family and good friends said that it was not him. also this imposter changed at that point becoming or pushing more along the hard line Vatican II line.

That's impossible and there is not a shred of evidence.

Pope John Paul I was a good man but he was killed, they caused the heart attack and it was all covered up, one can see that such was covered up because it was not open to the public but hidden in detail as much as they could. very badly done in my opinion of it all, you can say what you want, but I say it was very underhanded the way it was all conducted, so it all looks very bad when one looks into it all.

Paranoid speculation. You were not at his bedside 24/7. Various conspiracy theories went on for months.

The Zionist so called Jews won WW2 and their mates the Jesuits are Zionist Satanist they were in bed with the Nazi Zionist, Hitler was a Zionist Jew it was he who supported them full on and they were killing true Jews who did not support the Socialist so called Zionist.
This Zionist mob are not Biblical Zion at all and that's a fact and the true Jews back in the 1930's 40's 50's knew this totally, such true Jewish people were in shock when the Zionist put that Satanic flag up with the Moloch Star on it claiming to be Israel, when it should Truly be the Menorah on the Flag in fact to be truly Jewish and every worthy true Jew knows this to be a fact and they were pissed off about it back in the day.

You need to tell your doctor about the flag and the Zionists.

Any true Christian knows what that Star represents because it's Biblical St Stephen pointed it out for what it truly was Jesus pointed them out for who they truly are Murders from the beginning.
But do we here Priest nowadays pointing out the fact that the Biblical points out in fact NO! they hide this fact, because they are of Satan.

I think you are not very educated, and you came from a dysfunctional family.

Most so called Christians are morons if they do not know this, why do the Priest hide run away from what the Bible says nowadays ? because they are not preaching Jesus Christ but a social doctrine of mans works with another Jesus.

You are an expert on what priests preach and have rarely, if ever, been to Mass??? Try it some day.

I ask hey Priest why don't you come out and Preach what St Stephen said, and you watch them turn and run away nowadays. because this points out who the so called Jew were controlled by in fact, it was not God the Father but their father the Devil, as Jesus pointed this out. if they had believed in Holy Moses they would of known who Jesus was, Just like Nathaniel did who was a 'true Israelite' Jesus said this in fact. but idiots cast this aside nowadays and claim so called Zionist to be gods people, what morons they are to swallow that crap.

Make sure there are no Zionists hiding under your bed or in the closet.

I pray of Pell to come out and be totally honest and say what he truly thinks from the heart, like saying yes there are Sodomites in the Church priesthood but they are just to powerful and the reasons why such is so.
Pope JP 2 said about this for years but he was powerless to deal with it all, he sent out letters all the time about this and this totally angered many priest and Pope Ben could not deal with the power of it as well. but Pope Frances has welcomed them.

Popes have cleaned up the mess as best as they could. Now, nobody can beat the Catholic record. To say that Pope JP didn't do anything is ignorance and stupidity and marching to the secular world's drum.

The main parts of the bible is read out loud in one year, and the entire Bible is read out loud in 3 year cycles. There is more "Bible" in one Catholic Mass than in a month of Protestant services. Sit in one some day.

I am not of a lynch mob as all I say is come out with the truth for crying out loud and I am sick of the cover ups, it's this that drives people out of the church, I feel sick to death of it all because it cast a bad light on Jesus Christ in the eyes of so many and such just totally pisses me off.

How do you think we feel???

I love Jesus Christ but I don't idolise people or some trashy run church that's full of lies and full of Sodomites.

Don't abandon Peter because of Judas.

 

[Josho]

@kepha31 in response to post 20

Firstly calm down, secondly you could say the same about Hollywood, why did it take so long for stuff to get brought up, thirdly there has been a problem in protestant and other Churches too with pastors and preachers, it just hasn't received as much coverage, fourthly I do wish these stories of sexual abuse would stop, they are sickening, but it's all a part of the end time, there is gonna be a lot more stuff that comes out, we can call it fake news all we like, but Pastors and Priests and Christians do stuff up, the Devil tries to shoot them down anyway he can, to try to stain the image of Christianity, and you gotta realize it's is an attempt by Satan to draw Christians astray from Jesus, that's why you may have heard of all these victims that suffered from abuse, they have put there trust into these Christian/Catholic leaders, only to get abused by some of these leaders, they then run away from Jesus.

That's a reason why all Christians including Protestants, Catholics or whatever Christian they are gotta know, the earthly bishop is not God, the earthly prophet is not God, the earthly Priest is not God, the earthly preacher is not God, they are only men and women, they may have Jesus inside them, but they are still flesh and bone, they are still human, they still aren't perfect, they still make mistakes, there's a reason why the Bible tells us to put Jesus 1st, it's not just so we don't idolize anyone else by putting them above Jesus, but it's also so that we remain strong in our faith in Jesus, so we don't wander about, so we don't drift away, so we don't get damaged when a Christian makes a mistake, so we don't get damaged with doubt when someone says why does God let this happen, why did God let that happen, so we don't get damaged by an atheist, etc, etc, etc, it's for the good of us and others around us that we put Jesus first.

When the Media releases some details about sexual abuse in the church, they automatically distance themselves far off from Jesus and anything to do with Christianity, but I don't, you don't and I'm sure many other Christians on this forum don't distance themselves from Jesus when they hear of this stuff. But the world does distance themselves....

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Anyway Kepha that's my view on these sexual abuse scandals, and I am not trying to suggest that the world news is all truth and none of it is fake, but I'm saying Christians make mistakes too and Satan loves to pound on them when they do make a mistake and he loves to cause others to fall astray or draw others further away from God. But also too, some people just want to make up lies of those they don't like, however Satan tries to use both of those situations to steal, kill and destroy.

Peace to you Kepha, Jesus loves ya mate.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

That's impossible and there is not a shred of evidence.

Paranoid speculation. You were not at his bedside 24/7. Various conspiracy theories went on for months.

You need to tell your doctor about the flag and the Zionists.
I think you are not very educated, and you came from a dysfunctional family.
You are an expert on what priests preach and have rarely, if ever, been to Mass??? Try it some day.
Make sure there are no Zionists hiding under your bed or in the closet.
Popes have cleaned up the mess as best as they could. Now, nobody can beat the Catholic record. To say that Pope JP didn't do anything is ignorance and stupidity and marching to the secular world's drum.

The main parts of the bible is read out loud in one year, and the entire Bible is read out loud in 3 year cycles. There is more "Bible" in one Catholic Mass than in a month of Protestant services. Sit in one some day.
How do you think we feel???
Don't abandon Peter because of Judas.

1 Well there is the family who said this was so.

2 Well they did a bad job of it all and should of been fully open about it all and not hiding it the what they did, for one I cared about the Man, you come across as you don't.

3 What would my Doctor know about such things, problem is that you must be stupid as most not to know that Hitler was a Zionist Jew, the only Jewish paper in Nazi Germany was Zionist, you should talk to some real Jews who truly follow the OT mate.

4 So you reject St Stephen's account do you, what a fool.
I come from a loving close family and Mum and Dad were Married all the way and I love my Brothers and Sister and we all get on just fine and always have, one could not of had a better family, I even worked with my Dad and Brothers and we never had any problems.
I think you are a total moron for claiming such of me, not to mention it shows you are not a true Christian, you sir are a slander.

5 Oh some Priest were good years ago, but nowadays they are preaching only a social gospel full on.

6 Do you think they will be their, should I be worried.

7 I never said Pope JP 2 did not do anything, he did what he could I am sure of that.
I know that it is read out as you say, who do you think you are talking to. I had 3 relations who were RC Priest, one is dead and the two others are like 90yo and I still go and talk to them they are great blokes.

8 how do think I feel not to mention Jesus.

9 Don't abandon Jesus Christ for mans worldly madness.

I don't like Pope Frances and I don't know of any truly devout Roman Catholic that does, not one, but only fools follow that Judas.

 

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1 Well there is the family who said this was so.

Find quotes and give names of family members, or stop making things up.

2 Well they did a bad job of it all and should of been fully open about it all and not hiding it the what they did, for one I cared about the Man, you come across as you don't.

Thus, Falasca wanted to end the rumors about John Paul I's assassination. They arose due to the pope's sudden death and the Vatican's poor public relations response. This fueled the suspicion and gossip published by sensationalist media.
The truth about John Paul I's death​

3 What would my Doctor know about such things, problem is that you must be stupid as most not to know that Hitler was a Zionist Jew, the only Jewish paper in Nazi Germany was Zionist, you should talk to some real Jews who truly follow the OT mate.

If Hitler was a Zionist Jew, why did he make Lutheranism the state religion?

4 So you reject St Stephen's account do you, what a fool.
I come from a loving close family and Mum and Dad were Married all the way and I love my Brothers and Sister and we all get on just fine and always have, one could not of had a better family, I even worked with my Dad and Brothers and we never had any problems.
I think you are a total moron for claiming such of me, not to mention it shows you are not a true Christian, you sir are a slander.

I apologize. Quote where I rejected St. Steven's account and stop slandering me. There is more than one account in the Bible besides St. Stephen.

5 Oh some Priest were good years ago, but nowadays they are preaching only a social gospel full on.

It's nice to know you have heard thousands of priests to make a fair judgement.

6 Do you think they will be their, should I be worried.

7 I never said Pope JP 2 did not do anything, he did what he could I am sure of that.
I know that it is read out as you say, who do you think you are talking to. I had 3 relations who were RC Priest, one is dead and the two others are like 90yo and I still go and talk to them they are great blokes.

You can't give a fair assessment of Catholicism because you have a few relatives who are Catholic. That does not make you an expert.

8 how do think I feel not to mention Jesus.

9 Don't abandon Jesus Christ for mans worldly madness.

I don't like Pope Frances and I don't know of any truly devout Roman Catholic that does, not one, but only fools follow that Judas.

But you are too arrogant to examine his formal teachings, and jump to insane conclusions. You are as insulting as you are ignorant.

• Vultum Dei quaerere: (On Women's Contemplative Life) - Apostolic Constitution by Pope Francis (29 June 2016)[ Arabic- English- French- Gernam- Italian- Portugese- Spanish ]
• Misericordia et Misera: (Mercy and Peace) - Apostolic Letter, Pope Francis (20 November, 2016)[ Arabic- English- French- German- Italian- Polish- Portuguese- Spanish ]
• Amoris laetitia: Post-Synodal Apostolic Exhortation on love in the family (19 March 2016)[ Arabic- English- French- German- Italian- Polish- Portuguese- Spanish ]
• Laudato si': (Praise be to you - On Care For Our Common Home) - Encyclical, Pope Francis - (May 24, 2015)

These are not sensationalist media headlines.

 

[epostle1]

@kepha31 in response to post 20

Firstly calm down, secondly you could say the same about Hollywood, why did it take so long for stuff to get brought up, thirdly there has been a problem in protestant and other Churches too with pastors and preachers, it just hasn't received as much coverage, fourthly I do wish these stories of sexual abuse would stop, they are sickening, but it's all a part of the end time, there is gonna be a lot more stuff that comes out, we can call it fake news all we like, but Pastors and Priests and Christians do stuff up, the Devil tries to shoot them down anyway he can, to try to stain the image of Christianity, and you gotta realize it's is an attempt by Satan to draw Christians astray from Jesus, that's why you may have heard of all these victims that suffered from abuse, they have put there trust into these Christian/Catholic leaders, only to get abused by some of these leaders, they then run away from Jesus.

That's a reason why all Christians including Protestants, Catholics or whatever Christian they are gotta know, the earthly bishop is not God, the earthly prophet is not God, the earthly Priest is not God, the earthly preacher is not God, they are only men and women, they may have Jesus inside them, but they are still flesh and bone, they are still human, they still aren't perfect, they still make mistakes, there's a reason why the Bible tells us to put Jesus 1st, it's not just so we don't idolize anyone else by putting them above Jesus, but it's also so that we remain strong in our faith in Jesus, so we don't wander about, so we don't drift away, so we don't get damaged when a Christian makes a mistake, so we don't get damaged with doubt when someone says why does God let this happen, why did God let that happen, so we don't get damaged by an atheist, etc, etc, etc, it's for the good of us and others around us that we put Jesus first.

When the Media releases some details about sexual abuse in the church, they automatically distance themselves far off from Jesus and anything to do with Christianity, but I don't, you don't and I'm sure many other Christians on this forum don't distance themselves from Jesus when they hear of this stuff. But the world does distance themselves....

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Anyway Kepha that's my view on these sexual abuse scandals, and I am not trying to suggest that the world news is all truth and none of it is fake, but I'm saying Christians make mistakes too and Satan loves to pound on them when they do make a mistake and he loves to cause others to fall astray or draw others further away from God. But also too, some people just want to make up lies of those they don't like, however Satan tries to use both of those situations to steal, kill and destroy.

Peace to you Kepha, Jesus loves ya mate.

This post is a cover up and a distraction from the fact that the CC has done her laundry, while sex scandals in Protestant churches continue to get worse. Every day, on every forum, its the same thing: attacking 50 year old scandals as if nothing has changed.

The movie “Spotlight” is bound to spark more conversation about the sexual abuse scandal in the Catholic Church. Unfortunately, much of what the American public knows about this issue is derived from the popular culture, something this film will only abet. Therefore, the time is ripe to revisit what the actual data on this subject reveal.
SHINING THE LIGHT ON "SPOTLIGHT"
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IMO, it should be a banned topic.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Find quotes and give names of family members, or stop making things up.

Thus, Falasca wanted to end the rumors about John Paul I's assassination. They arose due to the pope's sudden death and the Vatican's poor public relations response. This fueled the suspicion and gossip published by sensationalist media.
The truth about John Paul I's death​

If Hitler was a Zionist Jew, why did he make Lutheranism the state religion?

I apologize. Quote where I rejected St. Steven's account and stop slandering me. There is more than one account in the Bible besides St. Stephen.
It's nice to know you have heard thousands of priests to make a fair judgement.
You can't give a fair assessment of Catholicism because you have a few relatives who are Catholic. That does not make you an expert.

But you are too arrogant to examine his formal teachings, and jump to insane conclusions. You are as insulting as you are ignorant.

• Vultum Dei quaerere: (On Women's Contemplative Life) - Apostolic Constitution by Pope Francis (29 June 2016)[ Arabic- English- French- Gernam- Italian- Portugese- Spanish ]
• Misericordia et Misera: (Mercy and Peace) - Apostolic Letter, Pope Francis (20 November, 2016)[ Arabic- English- French- German- Italian- Polish- Portuguese- Spanish ]
• Amoris laetitia: Post-Synodal Apostolic Exhortation on love in the family (19 March 2016)[ Arabic- English- French- German- Italian- Polish- Portuguese- Spanish ]
• Laudato si': (Praise be to you - On Care For Our Common Home) - Encyclical, Pope Francis - (May 24, 2015)

These are not sensationalist media headlines.

1 Far as I know all of them said so.

2 You know as well as I do that Protestants are not real Christians.

What Pope Frances, I thought he would be good with the Name Frances but he is no Frances at all. I think he will get kicked out of the RCC he is because he is such a idiot.

 

[Truth7t7]

SECOND VATICAN COUNCIL
The 16 Documents


Those are the documents of Vatican II. But you condemn them all like the Christian Taliban, have never read any of them, and pass yourself off as an expert?
Pope Paul VI died of a heart attack, not a mob. Any encyclopedia will verify this. You made up "mob"
The successor of Pope Paul VI was Pope John Paul 1. He lasted 1 month, but even then you refuse to see what he stood for. His successor was St. Pope John Paul II, and wrote many of the Vatican II documents that you are irrationally afraid of. "Expose the satanists"? You have the last 5 popes reduced to cartoon characters of your own invention.
Here are the documents of Vatican II that you pathetically mock, but have never read any of them. Documents of Vatican II

Your take on Cardinal Pell reflects typical media persecution.

The Australian judicial system, at least as applied to Cardinal George Pell, is not comprehensible to Americans. In this country, the accused knows the identity of his accuser when charges are pressed. Pell was denied this right. In this country, the accused knows exactly what the charges against him are when they are made. Pell was denied this right.

In this country, the media have wide access to court proceedings and can report what they learn. In Australia, the media have limited rights and can be banned from reporting almost anything. In this country, the prosecuting and defense attorneys can question prospective jurors, vetoing those they consider biased. They have no such rule in the Australian state of Victoria, the venue of the Pell trial, which means the jury can easily be stacked against him. Victoria is known as a very liberal, and not Catholic-friendly, part of the country.

On May 1, the most serious charges against Pell were dismissed by the court. Following this decision, Australian reporter Andrew Bolt wrote, “All I can say is that several claims against Pell that were pushed by the media never even reached this courtroom and have been debunked.”

The latest development adds to the absurdities surrounding this case.

A Victoria County Court staff member has been fired for allegedly retrieving information about the Pell case from the court’s computer system. The prosecutors wasted no time asking the court to ban “any report of the whole or any part of these proceedings and any information derived from this proceeding and any court documents associated with this proceeding.”

This is a wild swing of the pendulum. After the media savaged Pell for years, tainting prospective jurors, prosecutors are now asking for a total gag rule.

In 2016, Bolt wrote, “There is something utterly repulsive about the media’s persecution of George Pell.” In 2017, he wrote, “The media commentary suggest there is little chance Cardinal George Pell can get a fair trial.” Amanda Vanstone, a reporter not regarded as religion-friendly, went further. “What we are seeing is no better than a lynch mob from the dark ages,” she said.

The little we know of Pell’s accusers validates the position of the Catholic League: Pell is the subject of a witch hunt. Indeed, he is the whipping boy of those seeking revenge against the Catholic Church. Yes, there were some admittedly lousy decisions made by Catholic priests and bishops in the past, but that is no excuse for plundering the rights of Cardinal Pell.

Consider the charges against Pell that were tossed and those that are extant.

One of the charges against Pell that was thrown out involves an unspecified incident that allegedly occurred 40 years ago in a theater during the screening of the movie “Close Encounters of the Third Kind.” But a cinema worker said he never saw Pell at the theater. Moreover, the movie was not shown at that theater on the date of the alleged offense.

The other charge that was made occurred sometime after the movie offense allegedly happened. But in addition to saying he was abused at a chapel, the accuser changed his mind saying the offense took place in a playground. He also said it took place on a mountain. The judge dismissed the charge saying the accuser showed a “cavalier attitude” and a “poor memory.”

What’s left? Charges that Pell abused boys in the 1970s while he was throwing them in the air in a swimming pool in front of others. One of the accusers has since died of cancer. One of the others has a record of violence, alcohol and drug abuse, and burglary. We know nothing about any other accusers.

Two men made the other charge. They said Pell made them perform oral sex on him in the 1990s after Mass at St. Patrick’s Cathedral. One of the accusers has since died of drug abuse. Oh, yes, the mother of the boy who died said her son told her on two occasions that he was never abused by Pell.

To say that this is a travesty of justice is a gross understatement. They have put Cardinal Pell through hell. None of this is by accident.

Please keep Cardinal George Pell in your prayers.
CAN CARDINAL PELL EVER GET A FAIR TRIAL?

You are just part of the secular dark ages lynch mob. You have a psychotic hatred for Catholicism that is so far from reality it's almost funny. Then you post lies on discussion boards. That makes you a forum sadist.

George Pell or Bernard Law?

Ole Bernard Law, He Shipped Pedofile Priest Around His Diocease So They Could Have Fresh New Victim's.

Yep Ole Law Escaped By Plane To Vatican City, Protected And Promoted By Pope John Paul, "Sick"!

REUTERS

Disgraced Cardinal Law, byword for Catholic sexual abuse crisis, dies
Philip Pullella

(Reuters) - Cardinal Bernard Law, the former Archbishop of Boston who resigned in disgrace after covering up years of sexual abuse of children by priests and whose name became a byword for scandal in the Catholic Church, died on Wednesday.

A succession of devastating news stories by Boston Globe reporters showed how priests who sexually abused children had been moved from parish to parish for years under Law's tenure without parishioners or law authorities being informed.

"No words can convey the pain these survivors and their loved ones suffered," SNAP, a victims' group, said.

"Survivors of child sexual assault in Boston, who were first betrayed by Law's cover-up of sex crimes and then doubly betrayed by his subsequent promotion to Rome, were those most hurt," SNAP said in a statement.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

George Pell or Bernard Law?

Ole Bernard Law, He Shipped Pedofile Priest Around His Diocease So They Could Have Fresh New Victim's.

Yep Ole Law Escaped By Plane To Vatican City, Protected And Promoted By Pope John Paul, "Sick"!

REUTERS

Disgraced Cardinal Law, byword for Catholic sexual abuse crisis, dies
Philip Pullella

(Reuters) - Cardinal Bernard Law, the former Archbishop of Boston who resigned in disgrace after covering up years of sexual abuse of children by priests and whose name became a byword for scandal in the Catholic Church, died on Wednesday.

A succession of devastating news stories by Boston Globe reporters showed how priests who sexually abused children had been moved from parish to parish for years under Law's tenure without parishioners or law authorities being informed.

"No words can convey the pain these survivors and their loved ones suffered," SNAP, a victims' group, said.

"Survivors of child sexual assault in Boston, who were first betrayed by Law's cover-up of sex crimes and then doubly betrayed by his subsequent promotion to Rome, were those most hurt," SNAP said in a statement.

Yes and the thing is that is was all covered up, now it can only be covered up all them years because people up top positions of Government and top Police are all involved in all this rubbish, I have been saying this for years, I know it goes on I have seen the proof, I even seen the proof of how the government laws were empowering such people, everything is done to protect the pedo 100% as much as they can in Australia, it is so powerful and the Schools are no better today than they ever were, in fact they are much more empowered to know how to deal and dismiss with such that a kid has Buckley's chance in hell of going up against them.

Most People believe that things are all squeaky clean now that the media and the Law has come to this point they have seen of nowadays, well they are being duped still big time with smoke and mirrors.
3 Months in jail for playing with kids like that looks to be all they get mainly and all is forgiven and they go out and do it again, they even have support groups that back them up with that they were born that way ? what total BS.
I want such people to be exposed and have a warning sign out front their house like they do in some States in the USA, but no our Government went mental over fear of not supporting their bloody rights.

 

[Truth7t7]

Yes and the thing is that is was all covered up, now it can only be covered up all them years because people up top positions of Government and top Police are all involved in all this rubbish, I have been saying this for years, I know it goes on I have seen the proof, I even seen the proof of how the government laws were empowering such people, everything is done to protect the pedo 100% as much as they can in Australia, it is so powerful and the Schools are no better today than they ever were, in fact they are much more empowered to know how to deal and dismiss with such that a kid has Buckley's chance in hell of going up against them.

Most People believe that things are all squeaky clean now that the media and the Law has come to this point they have seen of nowadays, well they are being duped still big time with smoke and mirrors.
3 Months in jail for playing with kids like that looks to be all they get mainly and all is forgiven and they go out and do it again, they even have support groups that back them up with that they were born that way ? what total BS.
I want such people to be exposed and have a warning sign out front their house like they do in some States in the USA, but no our Government went mental over fear of not supporting their bloody rights.

Who would want to be a priest, knowing you Can't marry or have normal sexual relations?

Profiles and Homosexuals, that's a no brainer.

The sad part, is people turn a blind eye to this truth, and stay associated with the dvil's of Roman Catholicism.

It was Cardinal Law in 2002, with one priest having 130 reported cases of pedofilia?

Today it's #3 in RCC command (Australian) Cardinal George Pell, And (Chilean) priest Juan Madrid.

You can just imagine the suppessed Catholic countries in sexual abuse, Mexico, El Salvador, Venezuela, Cuba, Brazil, on and on that are silenced?

Wikipedia: Bernard Francis Law
Law was the Archbishop of Boston from 1984 until his resignation on December 13, 2002,[1][2] in response to the Roman Catholic Church sex abuse scandal in his archdiocese. Church documents showed he had extensive knowledge of sexual abuse committed by dozens of Catholic priests within his archdiocese and had failed to remove them from the ministry.[3] One priest alone was alleged to have raped or molested 130 children over decades, while Law and other local officials moved him among churches rather than going to the authorities.[3]

LATIMES

THE NATION
Pedophile Ex-Priest Strangled in Prison

John J. Geoghan's trial brought to light the Catholic Church's sex abuse scandal. A fellow inmate will be charged with murder.
August 24, 2003|Elizabeth Mehren and Larry B. Stammer | Times Staff Writer

BOSTON — Former priest John J. Geoghan, the convicted child abuser whose prosecution launched a worldwide pedophilia scandal in the Roman Catholic Church, was killed in prison Saturday by a fellow inmate.

Geoghan, 67, was assaulted around noon at a prison in Shirley, about 30 miles outside Boston. He died shortly after being rushed to nearby Leominster Hospital, according to Kelly Nantel, a spokeswoman for the state Department of Correction.

Worcester County Dist. Atty. John J. Conte announced late Saturday that Joseph L. Druce will be charged with murdering Geoghan. Conte said Geoghan was strangled.

Druce, 37, is serving a life sentence for murder at the Souza-Baranowski Correctional Center, a medium-security facility where Geoghan also was held.

Geoghan, implicated in dozens of cases, was convicted on a single count of fondling a 10-year-old boy at a community swimming pool in 1991 and had been sentenced in early 2002 to nine years in prison.

Information that came out as a result of Geoghan's trial triggered a massive crisis in the church that led to the resignation or removal of more than 325 priests and four bishops around the country.

The reverberations reached all the way to the Vatican, prompting Pope John Paul II to schedule an emergency summit. Boston's Cardinal Bernard Law resigned in disgrace in December because of his involvement in the long-running cover-up of the sexual abuse scandal.

 

[Truth7t7]

Yes and the thing is that is was all covered up, now it can only be covered up all them years because people up top positions of Government and top Police are all involved in all this rubbish, I have been saying this for years, I know it goes on I have seen the proof, I even seen the proof of how the government laws were empowering such people, everything is done to protect the pedo 100% as much as they can in Australia, it is so powerful and the Schools are no better today than they ever were, in fact they are much more empowered to know how to deal and dismiss with such that a kid has Buckley's chance in hell of going up against them.

Most People believe that things are all squeaky clean now that the media and the Law has come to this point they have seen of nowadays, well they are being duped still big time with smoke and mirrors.
3 Months in jail for playing with kids like that looks to be all they get mainly and all is forgiven and they go out and do it again, they even have support groups that back them up with that they were born that way ? what total BS.
I want such people to be exposed and have a warning sign out front their house like they do in some States in the USA, but no our Government went mental over fear of not supporting their bloody rights.

Appears that the #1 high profile pedofile priest in Boston "John Geoghan" was killed in prison, somehow a youtube video was released on internal security cameras, appears the guards and prison wanted the word to hit the streets?

Appears Joseph Druce was the tool used, already serving a life sentence, He was convicted and given another life sentence for the murder of Geoghan.

Prison Internal Video Cam Below:

Video Link To Geoghan's Final Breath

LATIMES

THE NATION
Pedophile Ex-Priest Strangled in Prison

John J. Geoghan's trial brought to light the Catholic Church's sex abuse scandal. A fellow inmate will be charged with murder.
August 24, 2003|Elizabeth Mehren and Larry B. Stammer | Times Staff Writer

BOSTON — Former priest John J. Geoghan, the convicted child abuser whose prosecution launched a worldwide pedophilia scandal in the Roman Catholic Church, was killed in prison Saturday by a fellow inmate.

Geoghan, 67, was assaulted around noon at a prison in Shirley, about 30 miles outside Boston. He died shortly after being rushed to nearby Leominster Hospital, according to Kelly Nantel, a spokeswoman for the state Department of Correction.

Worcester County Dist. Atty. John J. Conte announced late Saturday that Joseph L. Druce will be charged with murdering Geoghan. Conte said Geoghan was strangled.

Wikipedia: Joseph Lee Druce (born Darrin Ernest Smiledge; 1965[1][2]) is an American convicted murderer. While already serving a life sentence, Druce killed John Geoghan, a former Roman Catholic priest who was convicted of sexually abusing children, and who had also been at the center of the Catholic sexual abuse scandal.

In August 2003, while in protective custody at the Souza-Baranowski Correctional Center in Shirley, Massachusetts, Geoghan was trapped in his cell by Druce, who jammed the door closed so correction officers could not reach him. Druce then strangled and stomped Geoghan to death. An autopsy revealed Geoghan's cause of death to be "ligature strangulation and blunt chest trauma."

 

[epostle1]

1 Far as I know all of them said so.

2 You know as well as I do that Protestants are not real Christians.

Wrong. I've met many good and holy Protestants. Only a self appointed pope in a church of one would say something so ridiculous.

What Pope Frances, I thought he would be good with the Name Frances but he is no Frances at all. I think he will get kicked out of the RCC he is because he is such a idiot.

That is a sick statement.

 

[epostle1]

Yes and the thing is that is was all covered up, now it can only be covered up all them years because people up top positions of Government and top Police are all involved in all this rubbish, I have been saying this for years, I know it goes on I have seen the proof, I even seen the proof of how the government laws were empowering such people, everything is done to protect the pedo 100% as much as they can in Australia, it is so powerful and the Schools are no better today than they ever were, in fact they are much more empowered to know how to deal and dismiss with such that a kid has Buckley's chance in hell of going up against them.

Most People believe that things are all squeaky clean now that the media and the Law has come to this point they have seen of nowadays, well they are being duped still big time with smoke and mirrors.
3 Months in jail for playing with kids like that looks to be all they get mainly and all is forgiven and they go out and do it again, they even have support groups that back them up with that they were born that way ? what total BS.
I want such people to be exposed and have a warning sign out front their house like they do in some States in the USA, but no our Government went mental over fear of not supporting their bloody rights.

Does demonizing the Church and slandering the Pope bolster your private beliefs? How is that working for you? Where do you get such bizarre information? Even Chick Publications isn't that stupid.
You are a waste time. Welcome to my ignorasium.

 

[epostle1]

THE ANTI-CATHOLIC
ANTI-PROTESTANT
FASHION SHOW!​

.....

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Wrong. I've met many good and holy Protestants. Only a self appointed pope in a church of one would say something so ridiculous.

That is a sick statement.

Not really, as in they are barking up the wrong tree a lot about the RCC overall, but they have it right as to most RC people. As I have said I do not look up to Vatican II too much as it has failed, just look around you and you can see that, where are all the young people ? everyone is mainly over 70yo at church and the younger priest are wimpy poofters.
It was about Christians in general and even RC people.
The problem is most are only indoctrinated only.
I know good Christians who are truly born again of all Christian denominations.
I don't call myself a protestant or a RC but a true Catholic in the true sense of the word and I glad I have nothing to do with the RCC as it is a creep show, with most being socialist Politically Correct dictating wind bags who do not look up to Jesus Christ at all but Mary worship or the Pope worship.

Your to blinded to see that Pope Frances is a total creep a Freemason a poofter and a Satanist, he talks so much crap, Islam has the same God as Christianity he claims that's blasphemy !!! no one comes to the Father but through Jesus Christ, did you know that.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

THE ANTI-CATHOLIC
ANTI-PROTESTANT
FASHION SHOW!​

.....

Anti-Christ show is what I was pointing out.

By the way where do you get that crap posted above ? and why do you post such crap, do you like that sort of thing.

 

[Ac28]

Anyone that claims to be a prophet during this 2000 year all-Gentile parenthetical period that started 1955 years ago, is a liar.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Anyone that claims to be a prophet during this 2000 year all-Gentile parenthetical period that started 1955 years ago, is a liar.

God sent them back then to warn so why not now ?

If one believes that Jesus is coming back, he is a prophet and much more.

Prophets just paved the way of God and they got killed for speaking the truth of God.

There are false Prophets as well and we see them all the time and the Bible in fact tells us so.

So it's just BS to say that there is no more Prophets to come in fact.

If God did something once I think he can do it again, man can not claim what God can or will not do.

 

[Ac28]

God sent them back then to warn so why not now ?

If one believes that Jesus is coming back, he is a prophet and much more.

Prophets just paved the way of God and they got killed for speaking the truth of God.

There are false Prophets as well and we see them all the time and the Bible in fact tells us so.

So it's just BS to say that there is no more Prophets to come in fact.

If God did something once I think he can do it again, man can not claim what God can or will not do.

Bible prophecy ALWAYS involved Israel. Israel hasn't existed, in God's eyes, since 63AD. They've been blinded and deafened as to truth since the curse of Isa 6:9-10 was pronounced upon them in Ac 28:25-27. Therefore, there are no prophets and no prophecy has been fulfilled in the last 1955 years. This 2000 year period its exclusively Gentile. That will end soon - about 2063 is my guess. Then Israel will be back on the scene, real prophets may arise, and prophecy will again be fulfilled.

Christ said He would not return until Israel accepts Him. - Mt 23:39, Ac 3:19-21. That can't happen until Israel is active once again, probably in about 45 years.

All prophets today are false prophets, since the Gifts of the Spirit are no longer available and there is no Israel. We Gentiles have no need of prophecy, since we are the only people to have the complete Word of God. That's all we need.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Bible prophecy ALWAYS involved Israel. Israel hasn't existed, in God's eyes, since 63AD. They've been blinded and deafened as to truth since the curse of Isa 6:9-10 was pronounced upon them in Ac 28:25-27. Therefore, there are no prophets and no prophecy has been fulfilled in the last 1955 years. This 2000 year period its exclusively Gentile. That will end soon - about 2063 is my guess. Then Israel will be back on the scene, real prophets may arise, and prophecy will again be fulfilled.

Christ said He would not return until Israel accepts Him. - Mt 23:39, Ac 3:19-21. That can't happen until Israel is active once again, probably in about 45 years.

All prophets today are false prophets, since the Gifts of the Spirit are no longer available and there is no Israel. We Gentiles have no need of prophecy, since we are the only people to have the complete Word of God. That's all we need.

Anyone who says that God rejects Israel at any time is of Satan.
Why would God reject his Servants ?
The Born Again of the Holy Spirit are his Israel and they are his Servants.
The Jews who knew who Jesus Christ was at the time, just who do you think they are ?
There is no Jews, it's only a lost religion now with no hope but for Jesus Christ, just as it always was, to say any different is Satanic.
We True Christians have the OT as a blueprint and all and we don't reject the Law at all but we have Grace that over shadows the Law.

Nowadays the Letter of the Law is coming back and the West is rejecting Grace, there will be hell to pay for this crap, just as it was when the Jew rejected the Son of God.

Christ said he would return ? not until Israel accepts him ? boy where has Jesus been for 2000 years ? I thought we were under Grace for 2000 years not under the Law.

I can tell you that the Devil is coming to power and Satan's mob is working to undermine Grace because they reject Jesus Christ and have filthy idols they look up to like Political Correctness that is there god now and this is a religion that they are totally possessed with and it's wiping the floor with Christianity, the lukewarm Christians idolise it as well.