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Explain this:The last one was first promised to Israel by Jeremiah. This is not only for Israel but we, the church, inherit its promises also. In your selection of verses, verses 8-10 have already been fulfilled in the church. The last two will be fulfilled by Israel in the millennium.
There are only FIVE genuine covenants:When we start by saying all of us would probably like to tweak this chart a little bit but it is a good visual foundation.
You trying to dodge the realities plus you never answered my questions and posts.There are only FIVE genuine covenants:
1. God made a covenant with Noah which included the rainbow
2. God made a covenant with Abraham which is everlasting, and which included Christ, the Church, and Israel
3. God made the Old Covenant with Israel (which included the land, and of which Moses was the mediator) which was temporary
4. God also made the New Covenant with Israel (which included the Gentiles, and of which Christ is the Mediator) which is eternal
5. God made a covenant with David regarding his eternal throne.
The last one was first promised to Israel by Jeremiah. This is not only for Israel but we, the church, inherit its promises also. In your selection of verses, verses 8-10 have already been fulfilled in the church. The last two will be fulfilled by Israel in the millennium.
There is no reason for me to dodge realities. The Bible is quite clear.You trying to dodge the realities plus you never answered my questions and posts.
This instruction was given to the Church (redeemed Jews and Gentiles in one Body) and the Lord's Supper is to be a Remembrance Feast as well as a proclamation of His death (hence a proclamation of the Gospel) until He comes at the Resurrection/Rapture and the Church is taken up to HeavenExplain this:
26 For whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes.
Of course Gentiles are neither Israel nor Judah. But when Christ tore down "the middle wall of partition" between Jew and Gentile at the cross, He prepared the way for Gentiles to be partakers of the promises of the New Covenant in His blood (including th gift of the Holy Spirit). So Gentiles have been made fellow heirs with believing Jews by being grafted into "the good olive tree" of believing Israel.Also Gentiles are not Israel or Judah, to which the last covenant is written only...And you have never told me which house you belong to, Israel or Judah.
You said the covenant continues in the MK. So the Lord's table would not cease.There is no reason for me to dodge realities. The Bible is quite clear.
This instruction was given to the Church (redeemed Jews and Gentiles in one Body) and the Lord's Supper is to be a Remembrance Feast as well as a proclamation of His death (hence a proclamation of the Gospel) until He comes at the Resurrection/Rapture and the Church is taken up to Heaven
Of course Gentiles are neither Israel nor Judah. But when Christ tore down "the middle wall of partition" between Jew and Gentile at the cross, He prepared the way for Gentiles to be partakers of the promises of the New Covenant in His blood (including th gift of the Holy Spirit). So Gentiles have been made fellow heirs with believing Jews by being grafted into "the good olive tree" of believing Israel.
Nor have you explained how that covenant can be in place but there will be a return to the Stone Temple and animal sacrifices.
That will never happen, Corel. The only place this could be implied would be in an inaccurate interpretation of what the latter chapters of Ezekiel are saying. These are the plans for the second temple and all what we consider the millennial promises could have been fulfilled then IF Israel had stayed on the straight and narrow. They failed, thus they did not deserve the temple and land Ezekiel describes. (Read Ezra and Nehemiah)Of course, God knew they would so the plans for this temple and the land promises ,in Ezekiel, have been delayed until the third millennial temple is built. As far as the sacrifices shown, they were added if Israel had stayed w/ God and Christ's sacrifice wouldn't have been needed at the time it was. God will use these things to show Israel what they missed out on by following other Gods and rejecting Jesus.
When the church is raptured in the early part of the 70th week, I don't think we'll be having 'communion" as we know it. It just points to the reality of what we will experience in heaven. The church has been grafted into the tree thus inheriting all things planned for Israel as well. The only covenant left for Israel is the land covenant and the latter part of the "New" covenant. No Israeli at any time now or in the future will inherit anything unless they first accept Christ as their personal Lord and Savior in fulfillment of the Zechariah prophecy!
Pulled from thin air.When we start by saying all of us would probably like to tweak this chart a little bit but it is a good visual foundation.View attachment 6054
These are smoke and mirrors to deceive the simple minded.Yes you are.
When we start by saying all of us would probably like to tweak this chart a little bit but it is a good visual foundation.
What do you make of Romans 9, 10 and 11? some of which seems to relate to post-church events, with Israel in view.For comparison, this is how we see it: Two Ages, with a tension between the two now that Christ has come. We also have a pretty, pretty chart, and also numerous verses that speak of the differences between these two ages; one being now and things temporal, the other being eternity - things perfect and forever.
Two Age Model
Biblical Texts Which Speak of “This Age”
Matthew 12:32 - There is no forgiveness for blasphemy against the Holy Spirit
Matthew 24:3 - The end of the age will be preceded by signs
Matthew 28:20 - Christ will be with us until the end of the age
Luke 18:30 - There are material rewards given to us in this life
Luke 20:34 - The people of this age marry and are given in marriage
Mark 10:30 - The present age is an age of homes, fields, and families
Romans 12:2 - We are not to be conformed to the pattern of this world (age)
I Corinthians 1:20 - Philosophy is the wisdom of this age
I Corinthians 2:6-8 - Wisdom and rulers are of this age
II Corinthians 4:4 - Satan is the god of this age who has blinded the minds of men and women
Galatians 1:4 - The present age is evil
Ephesians 1:21 - Christ reigns in present age
Ephesians 2:2 - The ways of this world (age) are evil
I Timothy 6:17 - Those who are rich in this age, are not to hope in their wealth for the next
Titus 2:12 - We are to live Godly lives in the present age
In every instance the qualities associated with “this age” are temporal in nature. These texts describe the
present course of history before the return of Christ and are things which pass away at his return.
Biblical Texts Which Speak of the “Age to Come”
Matthew 12:32 - No forgiveness for blasphemy against the Holy Spirit
Matthew 13:40 - The weeds will be thrown into the fire
Mark 10:30 - Eternal life as a reward
Luke 18:30 - Eternal life as a reward
Luke 20:35 - No marriage or giving in marriage
I Corinthians 6:9-10 - Evil doers will not inherit the kingdom of God
I Corinthians 15:50 - Flesh and blood will not inherit the kingdom of God
Galatians 5:21 - Those who live evil lives will not inherit the kingdom
Ephesians 1:21 - Christ will reign in age to come
Ephesians 5:5 - Immoral people will not inherit kingdom of God
I Thessalonians 2:12 - We are encouraged to live lives worthy of the kingdom
II Thessalonians 1:5 - Faith will count you worthy of the kingdom of God
I Timothy 6:19 - The coming age has life that is truly life
II Timothy 4:18 - The Lord will bring us to kingdom of God
In marked contrast to “this age” the qualities assigned to the age to come are all eternal (or non-temporal)
in nature. These references are clearly describing the future eschatological state of believers (and nonbelievers if you factor in the references to judgment).
The Line of “Demarcation” Between the Two Ages
Matthew 13:39 - The harvest is the end of the age, and the angels are the harvesters
Matthew 13:40 - The weeds will be burned in the fire at the end of the age (judgment)
Matthew 13:49 - The angels will separate the wicked from the righteous
Well, the two are not mutually exclusive, are they? Isn't God even now working with the Gentile nation (mostly) while the Israel one is here? They do not need to be gone for that to happen. Why must we be gone for God to then start bringing large numbers of ethnic Jews to Christ?What do you make of Romans 9, 10 and 11? some of which seems to relate to post-church events, with Israel in view.