snr555
Interlocking is the precursor to evolutionary beliefs. Because the interlocking you are describing, just affecting one another, is not the interlocking Erasmus is describing or that Darwin is understanding. Such an 'interlocking' that you present would make no affect on Darwin in his evolutionary beliefs. But this did, as the author Brent so stated. As Darwin so stated.
Well then you're saying that we should throw out what happens in nature, such as ecosystems etc.
And it totally would, a new species evolves when a random mutation results into a benefical trait for the environment that animal lives in, and then reproduces enough and becomes so different from the species it originally came from that it cannot reproduce with it. That's why you won't find a cat and a dog having a baby, they're too different.
Again, its not my idea. I have presented you quotes from others. But, I believe they are correct.
The quotes themselves don't provide much information, except that Darwin understood basic biology before going to the island.
The basics of biology is not what Erasmus was presenting. He 'propounded a developmental theory'. Which was similar to Darwins evolutionary theory. And he had great influence on Darwin. So please, do better than that. Perhaps you need to reread again.
I reread it, and I didn't see this "
He 'propounded a developmental theory'." in the original post you put up. So please tell me where you got that from.
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Before his trip there, while he was at Cambridge he read two books which had great influence on him. One was by John Hershel. " Preliminary Discourse on the study of Natural Philosophy ". The other was by Friedrich Heinrich Alexander, Baron Von Humboldt. " Personal Narative of Travels to the Equinoctial Regions of the New Continent ". From ( Charles Darwin, by Peter Brent, p.98)
Brent goes on to say:
"If from Herschel Darwin gathered a view of science as anb all-embracing discipline, from Humboldt he derived a sense of the unity of nature. It was Humboldt's ambition to present the natural world as a single interlocking entity, a process to which all its parts contributed, each affected by all the others. This vision enabled himn among other things to take the first steps towards establishing meteorology as a science. And it was this vision that Darwen kept constantly before him when considering the exotic phenomena that surrounded him on his excursions from the Beagle, and later whjen he was struggling with the ecological concepts, as yet undefined by science, that underlay hius evolutionary theories. "
(p.98)
Brent quotes Darwin concerning Humboldt:
"If you see him again...say that I never forget that my whole course of life is due to having read and re-read as a youth his Personal Narrative"
You can teach science all you want. But you shouldn't be allowed to teach the faith of evolution. Or at least, we should be allowed to teach our faith of the Bible. Again, doesnt' that seem fair to you? Does to me.
It doesn't seem fair at all. A school cannot show favoritism for one religion over another. So, if we are to teach Creationism from a Christian perspective, then we must also teach:
- Satanism
- Wiccan
- Paganism
- Oriental beliefs
- tribal gods from Africa
- flying giant spaghetti monster (just in case you didn't know, atheists made this god up to basically mock religion. But, since they do "worship" it, it may also be included as a religion as well, but I guess that would be up to debate.) Here's a link to their website: http://www.venganza.org/
etc etc, so, once you are prepared to teach all of those on an equal playing field let me know. And then once all of those, and probably more, are taught would you be happy? I doubt it. Plus, it would take away from what can be tested and retested over and over.
You cant scientifically test evolution either. You can't produce any evolving animals. You talk about them in science papers and billions of years ago. But you can't produce any. We should have thousands , and thousands of half monkey people running around and evolving. Yet you can't produce one. So, yes, our faith should be taught as well as yours.
First off, evolutionists don't believe in "
half monkey people running around and evolving" That is a Creationist viewpoint of evolution, so please don't put the two in the same category.
And Rivers Jordan actually provided an example in a different thread, so here:
http://www.amjbot.org/content/91/7/1022.abstract