Crusades Began with Reconquista

[Matthias]

Then said he unto them, Therefore every scribe which is instructed unto the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which bringeth forth out of his treasure things new and old. - Matthew 13:52

I am afraid Spurgeon is not in my bag baby! Compliments, though, on being a well studied guy!

Thank you.

@Wrangler has said that Spurgeon, a Baptist preacher - known in his day as the “Prince of Preachers” - is one of his favorite Christian authors. Spurgeon held my position: the followers of Jesus must not kill our enemies.

I was raised Baptist. Spurgeon, played an important part in my spiritual formation. I still read him daily.

 

[rockytopva]

Matthias -> “rabbi with no knife,“ armed only with the full armor of God.

I believe the church movements as seven and I believe outlined in Revelation...

1. Messianic
2. Martyr - Ten Roman persecutions as outlined in Foxes Book of Martyrs
3, Orthodox - Basically an Eastern movement
4. Catholic - An Italian based church
5, Protestant - Sardis is a Gem, elegant yet not much there spiritually
6. Brotherly Love - Did this include Spurgeon?
7. Loadicea - Rich and increased with goods and have need of nothing?

Question... Is the Messianic Church coming back alive? Here we have a Messianic Rabbi Zev Porat whose youtube site at messiah ofisrael is now above 120,000,000 views.... Biography - Bio - Messiah of Israel Ministries

 

[Matthias]

Question... Is the Messianic Church coming back alive?

I believe it has been alive since the foundation of the church.

 

[rockytopva]

I believe it has been alive since the foundation of the church.

I believe that too. We had a Messianic speaker at our church one time and I mentioned the seven churches as I believed them and told him I would like to visit a Messianic church sometimes. He looked at me, gave me a serious look, and didn't say much. I could tell that he was thinking I just didn't know enough about what I was proposing to get into.

 

[Matthias]

I believe that too. We had a Messianic speaker at our church one time and I mentioned the seven churches as I believed them and told him I would like to visit a Messianic church sometimes. He looked at me, gave me a serious look, and didn't say much. I could tell that he was thinking I just didn't know enough about what I was proposing to get into.

Do you believe I’m an apologist for Islam? Do you believe I hate Christians?

 

[rockytopva]

And... The congregations I would consider Christian...

1. Messianic
2. Martyr - Oriental Orthodox
3, Orthodox - Greek Orthodox
4. Catholic - Catholic
5, Protestant - A whole lot of denominations here
6. Brotherly Love - Again... A whole lot of denominations
7. Laodicea - Basically Charismatic and Word of Faith

I would not consider the Messianic church non-Christian.

These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks; - Revelation 2:1

Seven Stars - Those in each congregation
Seven Candlesticks - Each congregation

 

[rockytopva]

Do you believe I’m apologist for Islam?

I believe you are trying to condemn the activities of other congregations. In which... The Lord has his issues with each congregation. Therefore the Apostles stress.... It is up to us once to live... And after that judgement. We will all be judged according to the deeds done in our body.

 

[Matthias]

I believe you are trying to condemn the activities of other congregations. In which... The Lord has his issues with each congregation. Therefore the Apostles stress.... It is up to us once to live... And after that judgement. We will all be judged according to the deeds done in our body.

Thanks. What I’m trying to do is persuade people that followers of Jesus shouldn’t kill followers of Jesus, nor non-followers of Jesus. That doing so is contrary to the teaching, preaching, and example of Jesus and the apostles.

Muslim. Put away your sword. Christian. Put away your sword.

 

[rockytopva]

Thanks. What I’m trying to do is persuade people that followers of Jesus shouldn’t kill followers of Jesus, nor non-followers of Jesus.

But... I would say that there are Messianic Christians who will end up killing enemies of Israel. In which other congregations also have killed what they considered enemies of their own state.

 

[Matthias]

But... I would say that there are Messianic Christians who will end up killing enemies of Israel. In which other congregations also have killed what they considered enemies of their own state.

Jesus and the apostles didn’t kill for the state. They didn’t kill.