Daniel 11 What verse does the end time kick in?

[ScottA]

Israel experienced going into the Assyrian and Babylonian captivities, as the curse part of the Mt. Sinai covenant. All nations and people did not experience going into the Assyrian and Babylonian captivities - as they were not part of the Mt. Sinai covenant.

Daniels' people are Israel. The 70 weeks of years are determined upon Daniel's people and the holy city of Jerusalem.

Daniel 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

There is no Jew or gentile--why do you separate what God has joined together in Christ?

Did you not learn from Israel's Assyrian and Babylonian captivities--since you say they were not for others? Did you not see their light, shown for all to see as an example of what could very well have been for every nation and people? Is that what you would prefer--that God make examples of every nation?

You fragment the greater truth from God into separate context, to your own lack of understanding. God is the same yesterday, today, and forever--why should you relive history and their captivity, that He should remain "the same" as it is written of Him?

 

[dad]

Right now, the western provinces of the Canadian people are FED UP with the LEFTIST-SOCIALISTS running their country, and raping the wealth of those 4 western Canadian provinces. THUS I DON'T BLAME THEM FOR WANTING TO JOIN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

Why would I blame them?

 

[dad]

That much is correct--yes, the "week" (synonymous with "time") involved "days" ("times").

Sometimes you get the obvious right

 

[dad]

God said it in the account of creation: "God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. So the evening and the morning were the first day"--since the "first day." Which, throughout the rest of scripture, is spiritually defined as good and evil.

Zero to do with the prophesy of Dan and the 490 years, as you have demonstrated

 

[dad]

If you do not hear what the Spirit says...you are not qualified to say one way or the other. The words are spirit, and spiritually discerned.

I guess we should ask you what the spirit says? Since you have proven deeply confused on basic bible, sorry. No

 

[dad]

Perhaps you need further explanation:

The dead in Christ (those who died before salvation came) were subject to God's dividing of light (day) meaning good, and darkness (night) meaning evil--just as those who were born after salvation had come at the time of Christ. Even all born under the sun.

So you imagine that somehow only the dead believers were subject to 'God's dividing of light'. Too bad He divided the light from the darkness when the world began. There were no believers then!

But if you fixate upon the "daily sacrifice" as Daniel spoke of it--as a separate event--you will and apparently have, missed the very elementary truth of what He was saying, which God first spoke of in the beginning. In other words,

It refers, obviously to the daily sacrifice of Israel by the priests. Your pathetic attempts to try and make it mean creation week were utterly refuted and shown to be comically baseless.

Daniel's prophecy agrees with God's original word on the matter,

Except the prophesy is about the FUTURE and was not about many thousands of years ago. Maybe google the meaning of prophesy!

but your understanding of it does not, because your own understanding is limited to making fragments of the truth from God into different contexts,

It was not me trying to grab fragments of creation week to weld to the prophesy of Dan actually. That was you

which they are not--God is the same yesterday, today, and forever.

God being the same always does not mean that prophesies He gives are confused nonsense.

 

[dad]

You deny then that "the Lord confused the language of all the earth; and from there the Lord scattered them abroad over the face of all the earth." So be it.

No one even discussed Babel here yet. Your dark and weird desperate false accusation is exposed.

 

[dad]

You are not looking at the whole matter--not all scripture, but looking at each small point as not having continuity with the greater truth ("all truth") from God.

I have been speaking by the Spirit, referring to "all truth" as promised and foretold--but you do not "comprehend"--which is also written.

Yes I look at all Scripture. I do not try to shoehorn and cram disconnected or random parts though. Give it up

 

[dad]

The actual truth is revolting to you just as it was among Israel when their time was at hand.

Even so, "strong delusion" was to come, as well as correction and "all truth." All of what was under "restraint" was to be unsealed and revealed. How is it that you have not expected these things that were written to those who would hear what the Spirit says? Why did you not make straight the way of the Lord, but have held to the doctrines and teachings of men with a closed fist?

So people who do not swallow your confused and clearly wrong attacks on prophesy are like ancient Israel now. Got it.

 

[ScottA]

Zero to do with the prophesy of Dan and the 490 years, as you have demonstrated

How is it that you do not know that all things of God are connected?

 

[ScottA]

So you imagine that somehow only the dead believers were subject to 'God's dividing of light'. Too bad He divided the light from the darkness when the world began. There were no believers then!

Your lack of comprehension is showing-- I said "Even all born under the sun."

 

[ScottA]

It refers, obviously to the daily sacrifice of Israel by the priests. Your pathetic attempts to try and make it mean creation week were utterly refuted and shown to be comically baseless.

Oh, and now you get nasty. Great, how christian of you.

But, no. How is it that you do not know that the Priests of Israel were given the words of creation and the former things of God, that they should preach what is true without making a religion out of only their part of God's greater plan of which they were to serve?

 

[ScottA]

Except the prophesy is about the FUTURE and was not about many thousands of years ago. Maybe google the meaning of prophesy!

It would seem that you missed the warning:

The Lord said, “Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his master will make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of food [h]in due season? 43 Blessed is that servant whom his master will find so doing when he comes. 44 Truly, I say to you that he will make him ruler over all that he has. 45 But if that servant says in his heart, ‘My master is delaying his coming,’ and begins to beat the male and female servants, and to eat and drink and be drunk, 46 the master of that servant will come on a day when he is not looking for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in two and appoint him his portion with the unbelievers. 47 And that servant who knew his master’s will, and did not prepare himself or do according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. 48 But he who did not know, yet committed things deserving of stripes, shall be beaten with few.​

 

[ScottA]

It was not me trying to grab fragments of creation week to weld to the prophesy of Dan actually. That was you

Yes, I have connected the things of God that are connected--for you.

 

[ScottA]

God being the same always does not mean that prophesies He gives are confused nonsense.

Prophecies are only confused by considering them in part--as being separate from all truth and scripture...like finding a bolt on the ground, and saying "Surely, this is all there is--what could it mean?" And when one comes along who knows what it is connected to--he is ridiculed.

 

[ScottA]

No one even discussed Babel here yet. Your dark and weird desperate false accusation is exposed.

More ridicule...ironically by the same confusion by God that you denounce.

 

[ScottA]

Yes I look at all Scripture. I do not try to shoehorn and cram disconnected or random parts though. Give it up

The disconnect is yours--your only defense.

 

[ScottA]

So people who do not swallow your confused and clearly wrong attacks on prophesy are like ancient Israel now. Got it.

Yes. But, as I said, the confusion is yours. It is apparent that the scriptures are all a riddle to you--as if I had told you Mary had a little Lamb, and you don't get the connection. And although I have spoken clearly, you have not wanted to hear it.

 

[dad]

Yes. But, as I said, the confusion is yours. It is apparent that the scriptures are all a riddle to you--as if I had told you Mary had a little Lamb, and you don't get the connection. And although I have spoken clearly, you have not wanted to hear it.

The daily sacrifice in Dan 9 is not about creation or Easter etc etc. You have clearly articulated your deeply confused cultish theory, What you also failed to do is answer the simple question about what religious 'denomination' you are affiliated with. Ha

 

[Douggg]

How is it that you do not know that all things of God are connected?

Scott, post a time line chart made by you of events that will take place in the 70th week of Daniel 9.