Daniel 11 What verse does the end time kick in?

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Randy Kluth

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False. It is obvious the US has warmongered like a mad bangee and that they bully and disrespect neighbors. They also cheerlead and supply the terrorism inflicted on Gaza
What a ridiculous and misleading statement! Obviously, in a pluralistic society we're going to have many different views--not just one! And I doubt that even those who wish to encourage Israel's takeover of Gaza would admit to being "war-happy" or "blood-thirsty!"

Calling all US acts of war "adventurism" or "bullying" is pure hate, or jealousy. Certainly, there is corruption in our government. But again, we're "pluralistic." The political parties strongly disagree on various issues. To assign motives often falls into the category I call "judgmentalism" or "hate."

To say that Israel's war against a terrorist government in Gaza is wrong or "terrorism" is the craziest thing I've heard today--and I've heard a lot!

Israel was attacked without provocation. And yet the Jew and Israel haters always argue that Israel's very existence is a reason to chop heads off, burn babies, rape women, and torture hostages. The mind boggles!
 
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NO... Russia and Red China are the main suppliers of the Islamic terrorists against the nation of Israel. Your Socialist-Leftist government has been telling lies to you.

Now Biden, that's another story. Who knows what really goes on inside his mind; it's already been proven through the Auto-pen fiasco that he wasn't the one making a lot of the decisions during his Presidency because of his mental state. And that's fine evidently for many of the Leftist-Democrats who side with nations like Russia and Red China. It isn't fine to the majority of the American people though, which is why the majority voted Donald Trump and a Republican majority in office (even though there exists fence-riders in the Republican Party also.)
A lot of people are starting realize that Trump is a right wing version of Biden, selling us out.
 

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What a ridiculous and misleading statement! Obviously, in a pluralistic society we're going to have many different views--not just one! And I doubt that even those who wish to encourage Israel's takeover of Gaza would admit to being "war-happy" or "blood-thirsty!"

Calling all US acts of war "adventurism" or "bullying" is pure hate, or jealousy. Certainly, there is corruption in our government. But again, we're "pluralistic." The political parties strongly disagree on various issues. To assign motives often falls into the category I call "judgmentalism" or "hate."

To say that Israel's war against a terrorist government in Gaza is wrong or "terrorism" is the craziest thing I've heard today--and I've heard a lot!

Israel was attacked without provocation. And yet the Jew and Israel haters always argue that Israel's very existence is a reason to chop heads off, burn babies, rape women, and torture hostages. The mind boggles!

Makes me wonder what he would call GOD in the following verse...

Ex 15:3
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The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is His name.
KJV
 

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The future is new. The tribulation will be different also. Totally. Unlike any other time. Now as far as context goes, the verse you cite is great, and about how generally what people think is new has gone on before. Not applicable to prophesy! For example, Jesus born in Bethlehem to a virgin was NEW!
So why don't you think the end of 2300 is the time of Jesus Christ's resurrection and ascension?

That's why so many explanations are far-fetched.
 

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Yes the United States is... empowered by "We the people...".
Unless it is for things they do that you do not want to blame the people for?
It's apparently your narrow vision preventing you from recognizing the changes the Trump administration is correcting that several of the previous government administrations allowed.
I like some things. Like the stuff against wokism. I do not like the bombing and support of the aggression of Israel on Gaza
You're not keeping up, and that's why now you are only trying to play your blame game because your argument has run out of valid substance.
Pretend all you like. Time to fess up that you lost some time ago. That reminds me, do you know the one country in the world that actually won militarily against the US? Canada! Ha
 

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NO... Russia and Red China are the main suppliers of the Islamic terrorists against the nation of Israel. Your Socialist-Leftist government has been telling lies to you.
However I don't recall them supporting Israel and what many people are calling a genocide?
Now Biden, that's another story. Who knows what really goes on inside his mind;
Actions spoke louder than words.
it's already been proven through the Auto-pen fiasco that he wasn't the one making a lot of the decisions during his Presidency because of his mental state.
From statements, he probably agreed with most of them though.
And that's fine evidently for many of the Leftist-Democrats who side with nations like Russia and Red China. It isn't fine to the majority of the American people though, which is why the majority voted Donald Trump and a Republican majority in office (even though there exists fence-riders in the Republican Party also.)
They actually did not vote to keep hiding and protecting the sinister child molesters in the Epstein affair. Nor to keep supplying Ukraine, nor to support mid east wars etc etc.
 
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What a ridiculous and misleading statement! Obviously, in a pluralistic society we're going to have many different views--not just one! And I doubt that even those who wish to encourage Israel's takeover of Gaza would admit to being "war-happy" or "blood-thirsty!"
No I never said the ADMIT to it! The act of supporting Israel and threatening mass deportations etc is more than enough.
Calling all US acts of war "adventurism" or "bullying" is pure hate, or jealousy.
Calling obvious truth hate or jealousy is an act of denial.
Certainly, there is corruption in our government. But again, we're "pluralistic." The political parties strongly disagree on various issues. To assign motives often falls into the category I call "judgmentalism" or "hate."
False. All one can say is that both parties go along with it a lot of times. You can call things whatever you like. If the US bombs Iran after campaigning on peace, with the reason being that they do not want nukes over there, while allowing Israel to have nukes, that is not 'love'.
To say that Israel's war against a terrorist government in Gaza is wrong or "terrorism" is the craziest thing I've heard today--and I've heard a lot!
It is obvious to most of the planet. Mass murdering and starving people is not a good thing. Sorry.
Israel was attacked without provocation.
So some say.
And yet the Jew and Israel haters always argue that Israel's very existence is a reason to chop heads off, burn babies, rape women, and torture hostages. The mind boggles!
So if anyone wanted Hitler to stop mass murdering Jews and others, would they be 'Germany haters'? There are FAR more hostages in Israel than were taken by Hamas
 
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Because you brought up the leader of the final world government over and over. Are you now claiming all the world will not worship the beast and take his mark?? Ha

Where did you or I state there was or was not? Oh, right, that would be you stating that the only window for peace would be before the seven years. Support your stuff. There will be no real peace on earth anytime until the Prince of peace comes. Before or during the last seven years. However, the false peace associated with the vile king in the end will exist. Your claim is that it will not exist since the guy is not even in power before the seven years when you claim the peace will exist.
Is this the mark?:"I bear witness that there is no god but God, and I bear witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of God."
If it is will you accept it.
 

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No I never said the ADMIT to it! The act of supporting Israel and threatening mass deportations etc is more than enough.

Calling obvious truth hate or jealousy is an act of denial.

False. All one can say is that both parties go along with it a lot of times. You can call things whatever you like. If the US bombs Iran after campaigning on peace, with the reason being that they do not want nukes over there, while allowing Israel to have nukes, that is not 'love'.

It is obvious to most of the planet. Mass murdering and starving people is not a good thing. Sorry.

So some say.

So if anyone wanted Hitler to stop mass murdering Jews and others, would they be 'Germany haters'? There are FAR more hostages in Israel than were taken by Hamas (and many of those presumably killed BY Israel as well) The hostages in jails in Israel are reportedly being raped as well of course.
Much of the political leadership of this world is "under the power of the evil one."
1 John 5.19 We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one.

Dad, get on the right side of this?
 

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Much of the political leadership of this world is "under the power of the evil one."
1 John 5.19 We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one.

Dad, get on the right side of this?
Do tell us what you imagine the right side of 'this' is? It was discussed how women and children and civilians were being starved and mass murdered. Did you think there was some side where that was OK?