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Discussion in 'Eschatology & Prophecy Forum' started by BOWnQUIVER, Aug 26, 2020.

  1. Trekson

    Trekson Well-Known Member

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    I was speaking of them using the term "satan's wrath" and I stand by my statement I've never heard a pre-tribber use that phrase in defining any kind of wrath but back to the first paragraph of your previous post I always have believed, when speaking of the latter days the word 'saints" refers to the church. Pre-wrath is different and yes we do believe that the short term great trib will occur sometime in the early years of the 70th week and it will be a direct result of satan's wrath upon the church, Rev. 12:17 and that our arrival in heaven at Rev. 7:9 is what ends the great trib. Everything else is either the wrath of the Lamb or the wrath of God. BTW, it's you who haven't been paying attention, I haven't been pre-trib for over 20 yrs. now. You keep making assumptions on what I believe before asking me if I believe in something or not and that's not a good way to have a fruitful discussion.
     
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    Timtofly Well-Known Member

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    What happens if you place 7 years of trouble and 3.5 more years given to Satan?

    Math would state 7 plus 3.5 is equal to 10.5 years. That is the logical outcome of physical time. There is no overlap of physical time when it comes to God, and Satan’s time is added, not blended in.

    The 2000 years cannot go past 2030AD. 30AD is when God declared time was over and time began. This 2000 year period cannot exceed it's boundaries. In fact, God could declare it over at any time now, and does not have to wait for His own timetable.

    Now Jesus claimed that those days would be shortened, and they have been cut in half. Not Satan's time, but God’s wrath has been cut in half. God has shortened the 2000 years by 3.5 years. There does seem to be a lot of controversy about this end of God's plan that has been a mystery for 5990 years. God told us by the Writings of Moses, that is would only be a finite time of 6 "days", but not explicitly for us to keep understanding for 6000 years. We were commanded to Remember. If we had remembered, there would be no controversy or doctrinal contradictions.

    If we hold that Jacob's trouble included Jesus' 3.5 years the first time on earth, then only 3.5 years are left as well. There was always going to be a time when Jesus would return and have His promised ministry on earth to Abraham. The first time satisfied God’s spiritual plan. This second time will satisfy the physical restoration promised to Abraham and David. This ministry would also be cut short, but how short does not involve math. The soon to happen earthly ministry will not start at an exact 3.5 year mark. The return will happen after the 3.5 years has started, thus not a pre-trib event. No one will recognize a trib had even started.
     
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    Davy Well-Known Member

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    Just because you 'say' you've never heard it, doesn't mean they don't say it. If that revelation isn't good enough for you, then I can't help you.
     
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    Davy Well-Known Member

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    More SICKNESS showing there.
     
  5. Trekson

    Trekson Well-Known Member

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    I don't need "help" just having a conversation.
     
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    YOu continie to show all here that your best tools are ad-hominems and strawman arguments.
     
  7. BOWnQUIVER

    BOWnQUIVER Active Member

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    In above scriptures youll see the Day of the Lord takes place AFTER the tribulation period

    ALL the sriptures below say the Day of the Lord will last one year

    ISAIAH 34 [4] And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree. [8] For it is THE DAY OF THE LORD'S VENGEANCE, and the YEAR OF RECOMPENCES for the controversy of Zion.

    The day of the Lord’s vengeance = the year of recompences for the controversy of Zion.

    ISAIAH 63 [3] I have trodden the winepress alone; and of the people there was none with me: for I will tread them in mine anger, and trample them in my fury; and their blood shall be sprinkled upon my garments, and I will stain all my raiment. [4] For THE DAY OF VENGEANCE is in mine heart, and THE YEAR OF MY REDEEMED IS COME.

    For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come.

    ISAIAH 61 [1] The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me; because the Lord hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound; [2] TO PROCLAIM THE ACCEPTABLE YEAR OF THE LORD, AND THE DAY OF VENGEANCE OF OUR GOD; to comfort all that mourn;

    Proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord

    JEREMIAH 48 [44] He that fleeth from the fear shall fall into the pit; and he that getteth up out of the pit shall be taken in the snare: for I will bring upon it, even upon Moab, the YEAR OF THEIR VISITATION, saith the Lord. [45] They that fled stood under the shadow of Heshbon because of the force: but a fire shall come forth out of Heshbon, and a flame from the midst of Sihon, and shall devour the corner of Moab, and the crown of the head of the tumultuous ones. [46] Woe be unto thee, O Moab! the people of Chemosh perisheth: for thy sons are taken captives, and thy daughters captives. [47] Yet will I bring again the captivity of Moab IN THE LATTER DAYS, saith the Lord. Thus far is the judgment of Moab.

    Year of visitation

    JEREMIAH 23 [11] For both prophet and priest are profane; yea, in my house have I found their wickedness, saith the Lord. [12] Wherefore their way shall be unto them as slippery ways in the darkness: they shall be driven on, and fall therein: for I will bring evil upon them, even the YEAR OF THEIR VISITATION, saith the Lord.

    The Lord liveth, which brought up and which led the seed of the house of Israel out of the north country, and from all countries whither I had driven them ( Jer.23 v 5-8). This will be done in the twinkling of an eye. As for the bad guys “for I will bring evil upon them, EVEN THE YEAR OF THEIR VISITATION, saith the Lord”.

    LUKE 4 [17] And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written, [18] The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, [19] TO PREACH THE ACCEPTABLE YEAR OF THE LORD.
     
  8. Bobby Jo

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    Woe to those poor mothers and the child who were born in what-ever-year, that the "delivery" took 365 days.


    Silly People,
    Bobby Jo
     
  9. Davy

    Davy Well-Known Member

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    That thinking reveals you do not actually understand about the ten lost tribes, but have succumbed to something else outside of God's Word. You reveal it by bringing up totally irrelevant points to the subject of the ten lost tribes.
     
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