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You definitely cannot read. Jesus "poured out his soul unto death". You definitely cannot understand Jesus' blood is figurative speech of which figure the words "my blood" are a metaphor. And you definitely cannot speak the truth, that Jesus was no animal whose throat was cut to kill it.
And you definitely DO NOT BELIEVE IN CHRIST THE LAMB OF GOD WHO IS LIFE: "I AM THE LIFE AND THE RESURRECTION".
If you do not fear God savingly GOD WILL PROVIDE YOU AND FILL YOU WITH FEAR FOR HIM YOUR JUDGE VERY SOON.
Back to square 1, clear self-contradiction in a pitch black picture framed in a pitch black frame.
Davy
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That kind of idea is completely out of align with the Scriptures. You're making things up.
To think that our soul-spirit is made up of material matter of the earth (of which blood is), is to say a person never ever exists again after their flesh body dies. And that idea is out of alignment with God's Word. Instead, it is an idea from PAGANISM.
The Matthew 10:28 Scripture is about our 'soul' continuing after flesh death, which means our 'soul' is NOT made of flesh and blood. It is the flesh, blood, and bones that goes back to the earth where it came from. Eccl.12:5-7 even made this very plain.
Therefore, you show you are not interested in staying in God's Word as written, but are here to confuse, and deceive, and do Satan's work! May God rebuke you.
Earburner
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1. Every person who had/has physical birth, into this physical realm of "flesh and blood", "became a living soul (*nephesh)", Jesus included.
Isa. 53[7] He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.
*nephesh- Hebrew-animal soul, animal life.
Unfortunately, for you or anyone to say that Jesus did not become a living soul first (flesh and blood), is to say that Jesus didn't come in the flesh of our humanity. So speaks "that spirit of antichrist". 1 John 4:3
Therefore, the question is not how did he become flesh and blood, but rather from where did He come from?
John 8[23] And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.
2. I strongly deny your false accusation!
Though Jesus did come to us in the body of flesh and blood, He, who alone "is a Spirit", infilled His body with His Ownself.
Heb. 10[5] Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body [of flesh and blood] hast thou prepared me:
3. On the contrary, 1 John 4[18] There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment.
He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
1 John 5:4[4] For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
[5] Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?
John 3[18] He that believeth on him is not condemned [judged]:
but he that believeth not is condemned [judged] already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Earburner
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1. KJV-Leviticus 17[11] For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it [the blood of Christ] to you upon the altar [cross]-John 3:16,
to make an atonement for your souls [blood]: for it is the blood [soul] that maketh an atonement for the soul [blood].
2. You are correct!!
Mat. 10[28] And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul [blood] and body [flesh, bone]
IN hell [the grave].
Gen. 4[10] And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood [soul] crieth unto me from the ground [the grave].
3. Read my response in #2 again, and then digest it!
4. You are correct!
Again, read Mat.10:28, digest it, but now discern it!
5. I am in God's word, and quoting it to you.
Satan's work of deception and confusion, was done along time ago, specifically in those who do not comprehend that "man became a living soul", but rather instead choose to believe the lie, that man was given an eternal soul.
6. Mat. 10[25] It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of his household?
Your blasphemies are boundless.
Jesus the Man of Nazareth -- SECLUDED ACRE -- "IS ONE" --"GOD IS ONE". He shares neither flesh nor spirit nor soul nor mind commonly, for He God, GOD "the Son-of-God", GOD "the Son-of-Man", is no son of man from the seed sperm of any common, but of the ONE SPIRIT-OF-GOD.
Having the first, the most, or, the last post, does not prove the poster right or better, but more likely wrong or worse.
Earburner
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Well finally, your attention is on target concerning Leviticus 17:11, and how Christ's Blood was different than Adam's blood as well as ours, of which we all inherited!
Because Jesus was conceived BY the Holy Spirit of God in the womb of Mary, and not by any man of the lineage of Adam, Christ's Blood (soul/life) was holy (set apart) from all of us and our blood.
Quite literally, God created the NEW Adam, being Christ, who is the last Adam, who is a quickening (life giving) spirit.
KJV-Hebrews 10:5.
1 Corinthians 15:45-58.
[45] And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
Today, Medical science agrees, that it is the "father" that determines the blood, which determines the sex of the child.
(For more detail, you can research that on your own).
As for the Blood of Jesus, it was God the Father Himself who determined the Blood of Jesus, and not by the seed of any human male. Therefore, the Blood of Jesus did not carry the inheritance of Adam, which was sin and death, but rather the life giving Spirit of God Himself, simply because, in Jesus body of flesh and blood, there was no sin in Him, which is to say: no sinful blood/soul/life within Him.
However, because Jesus was Spirit (God) made to be flesh, as the Sacrificial Lamb of God, He is the only Mediator for both man and God the Father. So then, because God the Father requires the shedding of blood for the remission (removal) of sin, it was required of Jesus that He should die.
Hebrews 9[22] And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without [the] shedding of blood
[there] is no remission.
Therefore, because Christ's Blood was shed for us, we do rejoice in faith believing.
Rev. 5[9] And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood [soul/life] out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation.
> Which fulfills Leviticus 17:11.
Earburner
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Ok, we who are born again of His Holy Spirit do know that Jesus came to us from above, and was made to be flesh.
So, is that all? He was just a body of flesh, with no blood? What in that, in your equation, are you trying not to say?
Or maybe you are saying it, but you don't want to.
So, lets clarify: 1 Cor. 15[50] Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
Surely you are not saying that the physical body of Jesus was without blood!
Since you are not, why then are you avoiding it?
Could it be that you don't understand what happened to His blood, when He said after He was in His Resurrection body, that He was "flesh and bone", purposely revealing that HE HAD NO NEED of blood any longer, but rather was ALIVE Evermore BY THE SPIRIT?
Is it that, that you are fearful of acknowledging? If so, WHY?
Earburner
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1. You definitely cannot read. Jesus "poured out his soul unto death".
You definitely cannot understand Jesus' blood is figurative speech of which figure the words "my blood" are a metaphor.
2. And you definitely cannot speak the truth, that Jesus was no animal whose throat was cut to kill it.
> 1. So then what is the metaphor, if its not His blood?
> 2. Matthew10:28....fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Q. Did Jesus "fear" that His blood, flesh and bones would be destroyed in "the grave"?
A. Of course not! His flesh and bones no longer had blood (soul) to sustain Him, therefore He physically and mortally died, but the Spirit of God within Him, gave Him back to New Life, by which of the same, He is sustained forever.
You definitely cannot understand Jesus' blood is figurative speech of which figure the words "my blood" are a metaphor.
2. And you definitely cannot speak the truth, that Jesus was no animal whose throat was cut to kill it.
> 1. So then what is the metaphor, if its not His blood?
> 2. Matthew10:28....fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Q. Did Jesus "fear" that His blood, flesh and bones would be destroyed in "the grave"?
A. Of course not! His flesh and bones no longer had blood (soul) to sustain Him, therefore He physically and mortally died, but the Spirit of God within Him, gave Him back to New Life, by which of the same, He is sustained forever.
Earburner
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If no man "from beneath" is Jesus' father, then only God the Father is!
Hebrews 10[5] Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
Did God the Father put the blood of Adam within Jesus?
Or did God put within Him blood that was not from Adam?
Earburner
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Could it be that you don't understand what happened to Jesus' blood?
Ans. It was poured out, shed from His body.
Then, after He was in His Resurrection body, He said that He was "flesh and bone", purposely revealing that HE HAD NO NEED of blood any longer, but rather was ALIVE Evermore BY THE SPIRIT?
So a.t.y. He had no need of skin, of hair, of eyes. What for flesh and bone then?
You are mad.
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