Despise the sin and not the sinner

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Raccoon1010

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So if we despise the sin and not the sinner, why are people punished in law and sentencing. Why do crimes go with their names throughout life.

Who do we not combat the sin, instead of the sinner?

People sometimes must be removed from society for a time, hopefully accept and are brought into Christianity so that the redeemer can save and heal them anew. The Holy Christ.

The punish and enslave. Or the serve and protect. To heal the diseased and the dead and free the captives and slaves.

We love God the master and despise the other.

Hate is grabby, an illness some cling to. Hate draws in.

We hate death and pain. Hunger. Therefore we eat, desire to be healed and God loves us and desires all to eat of his offerings to the world.

He gave us life that we might live. He gave us food that we might eat. He gives us that we might enjoy life. We must seek and find and strive for that which he gave us and desires for us. To prosper as free people in a free land, and help others to enjoy the same.

If we hate then do we not hold on to that in our hearts.

If we love the sinner and not the sin, we can be like God in the way he made for his children. We can push away sin and let go of it. And walk away. We turn to see Christ, the light and walk towards him to join with the father as he leads us onward.

Do we need to punish a sinner, or should we not be punishing sin. Sin is actions, thoughts and feelings, which are works that require heat, energy electricity. Nerves carrying electricity and food making heat in our muscles. Thoughts are electrical too.

The heat, electrical energy dissipate outward from our bodies anyways.

But the image animated of sin lives on as an illness in our memories and those of others that might witness sin.

We cannot punish sin as energy as heat and electricity.

If we punish the sinner we also sin.

He who kills by the sword must die by the sword.

He who leads to captivity, goes to captivity.

Those are his words, the words of Jesus and his father.

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

Those who serve and protect, must hope that those they protect by the law are all those under the law. But not at the expense of the law. Meaning, if the enemy climates the law and law keepers, he follows that old serpent. Who receives with false beliefs and laws that enslave and kill, instead of laws that free people and protect and save them.

Devin
 

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I always believed in loving the sinner but not the sin.
 
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If he was to murder your family and you being the only witness, would you love him enough to not report him ?

That is a challenging and thought provoking question.

My conclusion is that love does not over-ride accountability ... both are complementary Christian responses.
 
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I doubt I would forgive and would definitely ensure he was held accountable.

A drunk Christian kills your loved one in an accident and only you and they know it.
They ask you for forgiveness but state they will not report it, it was a accident, what is there to gain by having them imprisoned ?
Would you forgive without retribution ?
I think forgiveness is independent of legal "retribution".
I do not know how I would react in the situation you describe
but I hope I would respond as Jesus did on the cross.
 

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I always believed in loving the sinner but not the sin.
We were all taught that even though it goes against Scripture. Did you read the article I included above? Are you aware that Jesus requires us to hate if we are to be his disciples? Luke 14:26.
 

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We were all taught that even though it goes against Scripture. Did you read the article I included above? Are you aware that Jesus requires us to hate if we are to be his disciples? Luke 14:26.
How would you define "hate" in that context?
I have heard some define it as "reject" what is not of God..
 

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Despise the sin and not the sinner​

Ahhhhh, if I've heard this once I've heard it a thousand times.....from mostly those who sit in judgement and beat the theological juice outta any who hold a contrary opinion.hmmx1:
 

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Never liked the saying…
“Love the sinner, Hate the sin”

Because it “implies” that “Love and Hate” are opposites … which is False.

Love IS an action Word:
Meaning DOING what is…Righteous, Right toward another.
From the Heart…

Hate IS Reactionary Word:
Meaning a Strong Dis-Like…Regarding a Behavior, Look, Taste, Sound, Smell, Touch…
From the Soul…

IF… Love and Hate “Were” “OPPOSITES”…as “society” implies… ARE “Moral” issues.
Then you have fooled a society into giving Legislators a pass to legislate Morals.
( such as has occurred…under the auspice of “hate crimes”… which is a crock … wandering away From …
A crime… of WHO…(beyond self-defense)
To … WHY….and a crock of “excuses”.

It is God that governs and judges and rewards.
DO / LOVE / Right what you Will.
STRONGLY DIS-Like / HATE what you Will.

Men are not God.
Men were given the authority to legislate…in their governing domaine, (their offices, public domain / allowed / not allowed.)

Glory to God,
Taken