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For anyone new to this forum, I offer my video explanation of Passion week. Enjoy.
Jesus Crucified Wednesday.
For anyone new to this forum, I offer my video explanation of Passion week. Enjoy.
Jesus Crucified Wednesday.
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If my analysis is correct, He died on a Wednesday about 3 pm in the afternoon.Then what day did he rise?
I hope it's still the traditional "first day of the week", Sunday. (I didn't watch the video all the way through. I prefer written analyses.)Then what day did he rise?
Opps, I misread your question. He rose sometime after Saturday afternoon. The disciples discovered the empty grave on Sunday Morning, and some of the women saw Jesus Sunday Morning, but he might have risen earlier that morning or some time during the night.Then what day did he rise?
I'd think any time after sundown on Saturday. The women found an empty tomb while it was still dark.Opps, I misread your question. He rose sometime after Saturday afternoon. The disciples discovered the empty grave on Sunday Morning, and some of the women saw Jesus Sunday Morning, but he might have risen earlier that morning or some time during the night.
John doesn't mention "Friday"Hello,
In John 12:1 we are told that Jesus arrived at Bethany late in the afternoon on the Friday just as the sun was going down, six day before the pass over. This places the Passover Feast on the following Friday, and if Christ died with the Lambs, then He would have died on the Thursday afternoon around 3:00pm.
Jesus Rode the colt into Jerusalem during the twilight hours on the Saturday evening after the Sabbath Day had ended. After He had entered the Temple, He returned once more to Bethany for the night.
Shalom
He was resurrected on Saturday around 3 p.m.Then what day did he rise?
John doesn't mention "Friday"
This is correct. Also since Christ was entombed by sunset on the same day (which would have been the start of the next day), He arose after three days and three nights. Possibly between midnight and 4:00 a.m. on the first day of the week since that is when the morning star appears, and Christ is also called "the Morning Star". Keeping in mind the fact that God (Christ) rested on the seventh day after His work of creation was finished, it is reasonable to believe that He rested on the Sabbath after His work of redemption was finished.If my analysis is correct, He died on a Wednesday about 3 pm in the afternoon.
Since Sabbath is on Saturday, and Sabbath was (and is) the day of rest (for both God and man), this is incorrect. Furthermore, Christians made the first day of the week -- Sunday -- the day of Christian worship and rest, because Christ rose on this day. Therefore it is also called "the Lord's Day" (Rev 1;10). Christ Himself gave this day a special significance by waiting for seven days before meeting with Thomas after His resurrection on the following Sunday. He could have appeared the very next day, but Jesus was setting a pattern for Christians. Paul also waited for seven days to meet with the disciples on "the first day of the week" in Troas.He was resurrected on Saturday around 3 p.m.
Go ahead and laugh. But I'm interested in evidence. John did NOT mention the day of the week. Rather, he said Jesus arrived in Bethany 6 days before Passover, which can be any day of the week depending on the year.Cady and Zoe, there is enough evidence in the four gospels to suggest that Jesus rode the donkey into Jerusalem during the twilight period after the sun had gone down to herald in the first day of the week. Because Bethany was a short distance from the Temple, there was enough light for Jesus to ride the colt into Jerusalem and to then walk back to Bethany.
I would suggest to you that the crowds that were walking up to Jerusalem from Jericho had timed their walk so that they arrived before the sun would set so that they did not travel any distance on the Sabbath Day, which started at Sunset on the Friday. But since you have also pointed out this requirement for the Jews, I am confident that Jesus did arrive around the time that the sun set.
You statement that John doesn't mention Friday is a laughable argument on your part.
Shalom
Go ahead and laugh. But I'm interested in evidence. John did NOT mention the day of the week. Rather, he said Jesus arrived in Bethany 6 days before Passover, which can be any day of the week depending on the year.
Again, Passover is NOT on any particular day of the week. We can't simply assume that it was.
- Jesus arrived at Bethany six (6) days prior to Passover (Jn 12:1), hence Saturday. His triumphant entry into Jerusalem was the next day, Sunday (Jn 12:12).
- They could not crucify him on the Sabbath. So they woke everybody up and did it all Thursday night to Friday morning, to make a Friday crucifixion before the Sabbath began Friday night.
- John 19:14 says "It was the day of Preparation for the Passover ..." and John 19:31 says "Since it was the day of the Preparation, the Jews did not want the bodies left on the cross during the Sabbath.
- Matthew 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre. We know that the Sabbath for Jewish people ALWAYS falls from Friday sundown to Saturday sundown. The dawning of the first day of the week was therefore on Sunday.
The day of Passover was NOT Friday. The Day of Passover began Tuesday Evening. You keep saying that Passover was a Friday, which is what YOU must prove, not assume. You are the one presenting misinformation. I take it that you did NOT view my video otherwise you would NOT have say that I was not able to line up all the ducks.But you are not interested in the evidence, only in what you can concoct that seems right to you.
What day was the Passover? It was Friday, which was considered as a Sabbath Day to the Levite Priests. So Jesus was crucified on the Thursday. The last Super in the Upper Room occurred on Thursday Evening, Jewish time, Wednesday evening with respect to how we today define the days of the week.
What you are doing is presenting miss information and because I have justifiably questioned your understanding of how the Crucifixion unfolded, you are trying to discredit what I have suggested based on what you perceive is the silence of the scriptures.
Jesus presented Himself in the Temple on the first day of that week as an acceptable sacrificial Lamb for the forgiveness of the sins of the people from that time forward. When he returned during the day time of the first day of the week, he set about driving out the sheep and the money changers, because the Temple had been turned into a den of thieves.
I firmly believe that you have not been able to line all of the ducks up in a row to substantiate you presentation that Christ was crucified on the Wednesday and not on the Thursday.
Oh well, have it your way. I am happy for you to claim that your understanding is right, knowing full well that it is not so. Be it on your own head.
Shalom
The day of Passover was NOT Friday. The Day of Passover began Tuesday Evening. You keep saying that Passover was a Friday, which is what YOU must prove, not assume. You are the one presenting misinformation. I take it that you did NOT view my video otherwise you would NOT have say that I was not able to line up all the ducks.
Your attitude reveals to me that your view did not come by reason and evidence but remains a tenant of your religion. Those who hold religious beliefs are not willing to consider evidence because ostensible beliefs come by religious loyalty to dogma, not arguments. You have simply swallowed what they fed you and you swallowed without chewing. You gulped it down for whatever reason.