Strat said,
Again you display your complete ignorance of the bible and christianity,the law existed before people ever did and it was the breaking of that law that brought sin and death into the world and it was the restoration of that law in a God's son who obeyed that law flawlessly that brought redemption of our fallen condition....we because of our sin nature cannot obey the law perfectly but because it was obeyed perfectly by Jesus we can be saved...it is the height of wickedness to hold that law in contempt.
Well, I am glad that we have established how ignorant I am. All of creation is governed by laws, as soon as we stopped behaving like we were created to behave we stepped outside the law. The law is not burdensome for those who remain inside of it - in fact it is the ultimate freedom. My dogs are free because they act within their created definition - therefore, they do not even know they are following any laws at all. After Adam and Eve were kicked out of the Garden, they had to survive outside the law - it must have been a terrible shock to them. Later God reintroduced the law to let his creation know how far away they had strayed from their definition - we were created to love and now we were murdering and warring and living for the survival of the self. Remember, the sum of the law is love. We were sheep that had wandered off from the flock and God sent Jesus to find us and bring us back.
How foolish it is to on one hand claim to want to be more like Jesus who kept the law perfectly and on the other hand show such contempt for that law..."Legalism" says the law saves and i have never advocated that so you are bearing false witness.
Not at all. I want to be like Jesus by loving perfectly (perfect focus on the Father, and therefore, following the law effortlessly) and give up sinning (self focus). We only know the law because we can feel the consequences of not following it. When we are in Heaven and able to finally love perfectly once more, we will no longer notice the law. Legalism is forcing people to go through the motions of following the law without realizing that the only reason for the law is to show is that we are not loving perfectly. Feeling the consequences for not following the law is like seeing the idiot light come on in your car when it runs out of oil.
The work of Jesus and faith is what saves...what you are is lawless,you have contempt for the law of God which is why truth and deoctrine mean nothing to you and you try to excuse your heresy and lies with a sappy spineless "love" that has nothing to do with the love of God and everything to do with the wide easy path to Hell....you also make idiotic comparisons like comparing arcane cultural norms and sin...cultural norms are man's laws carrying little if any signifigance while sin is the breaking of the only laws that matter....fact is you hate anything that calls your reprobate heart to account....please dust off your bible if you own one and read some of it before posting such ignorance.
So why is it that you are the one that sounds hate-filled and bitter?
Ha - great post! I was just like that too - and sometimes I can fall back into the same old pattern.
Again you display your complete ignorance of the bible and christianity,the law existed before people ever did and it was the breaking of that law that brought sin and death into the world and it was the restoration of that law in a God's son who obeyed that law flawlessly that brought redemption of our fallen condition....we because of our sin nature cannot obey the law perfectly but because it was obeyed perfectly by Jesus we can be saved...it is the height of wickedness to hold that law in contempt.
Well, I am glad that we have established how ignorant I am. All of creation is governed by laws, as soon as we stopped behaving like we were created to behave we stepped outside the law. The law is not burdensome for those who remain inside of it - in fact it is the ultimate freedom. My dogs are free because they act within their created definition - therefore, they do not even know they are following any laws at all. After Adam and Eve were kicked out of the Garden, they had to survive outside the law - it must have been a terrible shock to them. Later God reintroduced the law to let his creation know how far away they had strayed from their definition - we were created to love and now we were murdering and warring and living for the survival of the self. Remember, the sum of the law is love. We were sheep that had wandered off from the flock and God sent Jesus to find us and bring us back.
How foolish it is to on one hand claim to want to be more like Jesus who kept the law perfectly and on the other hand show such contempt for that law..."Legalism" says the law saves and i have never advocated that so you are bearing false witness.
Not at all. I want to be like Jesus by loving perfectly (perfect focus on the Father, and therefore, following the law effortlessly) and give up sinning (self focus). We only know the law because we can feel the consequences of not following it. When we are in Heaven and able to finally love perfectly once more, we will no longer notice the law. Legalism is forcing people to go through the motions of following the law without realizing that the only reason for the law is to show is that we are not loving perfectly. Feeling the consequences for not following the law is like seeing the idiot light come on in your car when it runs out of oil.
The work of Jesus and faith is what saves...what you are is lawless,you have contempt for the law of God which is why truth and deoctrine mean nothing to you and you try to excuse your heresy and lies with a sappy spineless "love" that has nothing to do with the love of God and everything to do with the wide easy path to Hell....you also make idiotic comparisons like comparing arcane cultural norms and sin...cultural norms are man's laws carrying little if any signifigance while sin is the breaking of the only laws that matter....fact is you hate anything that calls your reprobate heart to account....please dust off your bible if you own one and read some of it before posting such ignorance.
So why is it that you are the one that sounds hate-filled and bitter?
Ha - great post! I was just like that too - and sometimes I can fall back into the same old pattern.
