Dispensational problems

[Truth7t7]

The reign of God is from the Heavenly Throne.
Follow the discussion.

I agree, and God will be reign from the "future" Eternal throne in the New Heavens, Earth, Jerusalem, at the second coming

Revelation 21:1-5KJV
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

 

[Curtis]

The reign of God is from the Heavenly Throne.
Follow the discussion.

The New Testament and Old Testament unequivocally teach a literal return and unending kingdom on the earth, with Jesus sitting and reigning on, and from, the throne of David in Jerusalem.



In Acts 2 Jesus literally ascends bodily and visibly from Mount Olive, and the angel said this same Jesus will return in like manner as you have seen Him leave - meaning His literal return bodily and visibly back to Mount Olive.



In Zechariah 14:5Jesus returns to Mount Olive with all the saints with Him - where He then remains, and the nations such as Egypt come into the gates of Jerusalem to worship Jesus, Zechariah14:16-19, who will be literally and bodily sitting on the throne of David, forever.



Luk 1:32He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the THRONE of his father David:



Luk 1:33And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.



Isa 9:7Of the increase of his government and peace there shall beno end, upon the THRONE of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.



1Ki 2:45And king Solomon shall beblessed, and the THRONE of David shall be established before the LORD for ever.



Jeremiah 23:5-6“Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, that I will raise to David a Branch of righteousness; a King shall reign and prosper, and execute judgment and righteousness in the earth. In His days Judah will be saved, and Israel will dwell safely; now this is His name by which He will be called: THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS”



In Revelation 21, The New Jerusalem which is above, descends to earth to old Jerusalem, and God and the lamb dwell in it with men forever, and Jesus says this about that city in Revelation 3:12:



Rev 3:12Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.



It’s Literal fact in scripture that there will be a unending literal and physical reign of Christ on the earth, and not just for a thousand years.

 

[Taken]

The reign of God is from the Heavenly Throne.
Follow the discussion.

Gods Kingdom and Throne "IS" Heaven.
- who has disputed that? Noone.

~ Scripture notifies us:

Isa 66:
[1] Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool...

John 18:[36] Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world...

Heb 12:
[2] Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

2 Cor 4:
[4] In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not...

* THE KINGDOMS (NATIONS) OF THIS WORLD... SHALL BECOME THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

Daniel 7:
[27] And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

HOW ?
Daniel 7:
[26] But the judgment shall sit, and they (faithful Believing Saints) shall take away his (great beasts) dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.

DISPENSATIONALISM
-Gods Kingdom IS Heaven.
-Gods Throne IS Heaven.
-Jesus Kingdom IS not of THIS (Earth) World
-god OF this world IS satan
-satan IS god OF many men OF THIS WORLD
-Heavenly God "offers" men OF THIS WORLD:
TO: Become "MADE" saints, (BY and THROUGH Gods WORD (Jesus) AND Gods POWER (Christ).
-"A SAINTS" God "IS" the "Heavenly Lord God Almighty"...
-"A SAINT" WHOSE soul IS IN Heaven and Dead BODY ON Earth...OR
-"A SAINT" WHOSE SOUL & BODY is ALIVE ON EARTH...IS "MADE" A "citizen" "OF GODS KINGDOM"'

DISPENSATIONALISM
- The Heavenly God IS "MAKING" (Willing) Earthly men...(By and Through Gods Word and Power)...PREPARED (saints/citizens) OF Gods KINGDOM...
BEFORE Gods KINGDOM "OF HEAVEN"...
"IS ALSO THE KINGDOM OF THE ENTIRE EARTH".

* AND BEFORE Gods KINGDOM "BECOMES" "the KINGDOM of the ENTIRE EARTH"...
* A LIMITED ... BY LAND boundaries
..................... Abraham's promised Land
* A LIMITED ... BY TIME constraint
......................1,000 years
...."KINGDOM" of God (ON EARTH)
...."THRONE" of God (ON EARTH)
...."SAINTS" of God (ON EARTH)
...."KING" (Christ Jesus) of God (ON EARTH)
....SHALL occupy THAT KINGDOM (ON EARTH
* ...."WHILE"...satan IS removed FROM the face of the Earth.
* .... "WHILE"...mortal men Occupy Lands "outside" of Gods Kingdom "ON EARTH"
* ... "UNTIL" the 1,000 Years have EXPIRED.


YOU say Dispensatilism IS A PROBLEM...

IS IT YOUR VIEW?
ARE YOU SAYING?..."THE PROBLEM IS"...
ARE YOU DISAGREEING?
What I have just listed?

?

 

[GRACE ambassador]

...."SAINTS" of God (ON EARTH)

And, don't forget us, The Body Of CHRIST = "SAINTS" of God {In HEAVEN!}
(2 Corinthians 5:1; 2 Corinthians 5:2; Ephesians 1:3; Ephesians 1:20:
Ephesians 2:6; Philippians 3:20; Colossians 1:5; 2 Timothy 4:18)

 

[Taken]

And, don't forget us, The Body Of CHRIST = "SAINTS" of God {In HEAVEN!}
(2 Corinthians 5:1; 2 Corinthians 5:2; Ephesians 1:3; Ephesians 1:20:
Ephesians 2:6; Philippians 3:20; Colossians 1:5; 2 Timothy 4:18)

Amen.

 

[teamventure]

They believe it is figurative. That solves all their problems. Why people would believe absurdities is still a wonder.

Sounds like it boils down to lack of faith on their part.

 

[dad]

4. Despite dispensationalism’s claim of antiquity through its association with historic premillennialism, it radically breaks with historic premillennialism by promoting a millennium that is fundamentally Judaic rather than Christian.

The coming rule of Christ on earth from Jerusalem does not promote a 'fundamentally Judaic rather than Christian' time. Jesus takes us to heaven to be with Him, where He is. We return with Him. We help Him rule the world. That does not mean we live here. Nor does it mean that the nation of Israel restored on earth is somehow getting a better deal!

 

[Iconoclast]

The coming rule of Christ on earth from Jerusalem does not promote a 'fundamentally Judaic rather than Christian' time. Jesus takes us to heaven to be with Him, where He is. We return with Him. We help Him rule the world. That does not mean we live here. Nor does it mean that the nation of Israel restored on
earth is somehow getting a better deal!

Classic dispensationalism teaches
that gentiles serve the Jews in an earthly millennial kingdom.
It basically ignores Eph2.

 

[Truth7t7]

The coming rule of Christ on earth from Jerusalem does not promote a 'fundamentally Judaic rather than Christian' time. Jesus takes us to heaven to be with Him, where He is. We return with Him. We help Him rule the world. That does not mean we live here. Nor does it mean that the nation of Israel restored on earth is somehow getting a better deal!

As scripture clearly teaches below in 1 Corinthinas 15:23-24 , when Jesus Christ returns then comes (The End)

Many disregard (Then Cometh The End) as they desire to see a mortal Millennial Kingdom on earth, after the coming of Jesus Christ

afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. Then cometh the end, not a Millennial Kingdom on this earth as many falsely claim

(Then Cometh The End)

(Death Is Swallowed Up In Victory)

1 Corinthians 15:21-26 & 51-54KJV
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

 

[Truth7t7]

The coming rule of Christ on earth from Jerusalem does not promote a 'fundamentally Judaic rather than Christian' time. Jesus takes us to heaven to be with Him, where He is. We return with Him. We help Him rule the world. That does not mean we live here. Nor does it mean that the nation of Israel restored on earth is somehow getting a better deal!

Jesus Christ Returns In Fire And Final Judgement, Dissolving This Existing Earth By Fire, Immediately After The Tribulation?

This Existing Heaven And Earth Will Be (Replaced) By The New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, A New Creation, At The Return Of Jesus Christ?

(Behold, I Make All Things New)

2 Peter 3:10-13KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Revelation 21:1-5KJV
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

Matthew 24:29-30KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

1 Corinthians 3:13KJV
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

2 Thessalonians 1:7-9KJV
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

Malachi 3:2KJV
2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:

Psalm 46:6KJV
6 The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted.

Psalm 50:3KJV
3 Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him.

Psalm 97:5KJV
5 The hills melted like wax at the presence of the Lord, at the presence of the Lord of the whole earth.

Isaiah 66:15KJV
15 For, behold, the Lord will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

Zechariah 14:12KJV
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Nahum 1:5-6KJV
5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein.
6 Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him.

Revelation 20:9KJV
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

 

[dad]

Classic dispensationalism teaches
that gentiles serve the Jews in an earthly millennial kingdom.
It basically ignores Eph2.

That is true since the Jews alive at that time will be saved ones!

 

[dad]

Jesus Christ Returns In Fire And Final Judgement, Dissolving This Existing Earth By Fire, Immediately After The Tribulation?

This Existing Heaven And Earth Will Be (Replaced) By The New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, A New Creation, At The Return Of Jesus Christ?

(Behold, I Make All Things New)

2 Peter 3:10-13KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Revelation 21:1-5KJV
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

Matthew 24:29-30KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

1 Corinthians 3:13KJV
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

2 Thessalonians 1:7-9KJV
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

Malachi 3:2KJV
2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:

Psalm 46:6KJV
6 The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted.

Psalm 50:3KJV
3 Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him.

Psalm 97:5KJV
5 The hills melted like wax at the presence of the Lord, at the presence of the Lord of the whole earth.

Isaiah 66:15KJV
15 For, behold, the Lord will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

Zechariah 14:12KJV
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Nahum 1:5-6KJV
5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein.
6 Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him.

Revelation 20:9KJV
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

So what exactly is your point in this and the last post? That Jesus returning is the end? So what? How does that relate to the topic? Of course that is the end. The Rapture is before the end of the world but is more or less the end and new start for us.

 

[Truth7t7]

So what exactly is your point in this and the last post? That Jesus returning is the end? So what? How does that relate to the topic? Of course that is the end. The Rapture is before the end of the world but is more or less the end and new start for us.

There wont be a 1,000 year Kingdom on earth where Jews rule in a temple, it's a man made fairy tale

Jesus returns in fire and Final judgement, immediately after the tribulation, dissolving this earth by fire (The End)

 

[dad]

There wont be a 1,000 year Kingdom on earth where Jews rule in a temple, it's a man made fairy tale

Believers will rule with Him, and that includes Jews of course. They will have a temple also if I recall at that time. So what is your problem?

 

[Truth7t7]

Believers will rule with Him, and that includes Jews of course. They will have a temple also if I recall at that time. So what is your problem?

The claim of a 1,000 year Kingdom on this earth is found no place in scripture

Jesus returns in fire and Final judgement, immediately after the tribulation, dissolving this earth by fire (The End)

You create (Two Peoples Of God) Jew/Church a teaching known as (Dual Covenant Theology) found no place in the scriptures

 

[dad]

The claim of a 1,000 year Kingdom on this earth is found no place in scripture

Jesus returns in fire and Final judgement, immediately after the tribulation, dissolving this earth by fire (The End)

You create (Two Peoples Of God) Jew/Church a teaching known as (Dual Covenant Theology) found no place in the scriptures

Revelation 20:3
And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
Revelation 20:4
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Just found it twice in a minute of searching. You claim is strangely false. Your idea that the earth is 'dissolved' by fire when He comes is also in gross error. His feet stands on the mount near Jerusalem, and it splits in a certain direction. He then judges the nations etc etc.

 

[Truth7t7]

Revelation 20:3
And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
Revelation 20:4
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Just found it twice in a minute of searching. You claim is strangely false. Your idea that the earth is 'dissolved' by fire when He comes is also in gross error. His feet stands on the mount near Jerusalem, and it splits in a certain direction. He then judges the nations etc etc.

Revelation 20:1-6 Isnt A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Dont Be Deceived

Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

 

[Truth7t7]

Revelation 20:3
And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
Revelation 20:4
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Just found it twice in a minute of searching. You claim is strangely false. Your idea that the earth is 'dissolved' by fire when He comes is also in gross error. His feet stands on the mount near Jerusalem, and it splits in a certain direction. He then judges the nations etc etc.

Satan is "Currently" bound from "One Specific Purpose", And One Only?

"Deceive The Nations" To Battle

The Non-Literal 1,000 Years (Revelation) 20:1-6 Are Taking Place Now In The Lords Spiritual, And Will Cease At The Future Second Coming

If A Tribulation Saint Were To Die One Day Before The Second Coming, He Enters Into The Non-Literal 1,000 Year Reign

Many That Promote Millennialism Falsely Teach, Satan Cant Be Presently Bound Because Evil Exist In The World?

Satan Is Presently Bound As Is Clearly Seen In (Revelation) 20:7-8 Below That Interprets (Deceive The Nations) Is To Battle, Not General Evil In The World Presently.

Satan Is Loosed At The End Of The Tribulation When The 6th Vial Is Poured Out As Seen In (Revelation) 16:12, The Deception Is Devils In False Miracles Going Forth To The Kings Of The Earth, To Gather Them To The Final Battle

(Revelation) 20:1-9KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

(Revelation) 16:12-14 & (Revelation) 20:7-8 Same Deception In Gathering The Nations To The Very Same Final Battle In "Parallel" Teachings Of The Same Event

(Revelation) 16:12-17KJV
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

 

[dad]

Revelation 20:1-6 Isnt A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Dont Be Deceived

Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Since a person dies still and is considered a child if he dies at a hundred years old, yes, they are human. Rev 5:10 makes it clear we rule on this earth.
You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to serve our God, and they will reign on the earth.” And Rev 3:21 makes it clear we rule with Him on His throne! Bing and a bam and a boom..
To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I was victorious and sat down with my Father on his throne.

Yes we rule on His throne with Him. Bing and a bam and a boom.[/QUOTE]

 

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That is true since the Jews alive at that time will be saved ones!

11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;

12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.

14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;