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[BreadOfLife]

Catholic deducing...adding to Scripture, what Scripture does not say.
Again, no Scripture says so.

You're a real glutton for punishment . . .

Mary is the Mother of Jesus Christ:
Matt. 2:11
Luke 1:35
Luke 1:43
Luke 2:6-7
John 2:1
John 19:25
John 19:26
Acts 1:14
I can go on like this ALL DAY LONG . . .

Jesus is GOD:
Psalm 110:1
Isaiah 7:14
Isaiah 9:6
1 Timothy 3:16
Matthew 1:23
Mark 14:61-62
Luke 7:16
John 1:1
John 5:18
John 10:30
John 10:33
John 10:36
John 13:13
John 14:9-10

And I used nothing but Sacred Scripture.
No Oral Tradition, No Early Church Fathers, No Catechism, etc.

You LOSE . . .

 

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You're a real glutton for punishment . . .

Mary is the Mother of Jesus Christ:
Matt. 2:11
Luke 1:35
Luke 1:43
Luke 2:6-7
John 2:1
John 19:25
John 19:26
Acts 1:14
I can go on like this ALL DAY LONG . . .

Jesus is GOD:
Psalm 110:1
Isaiah 7:14
Isaiah 9:6
1 Timothy 3:16
Matthew 1:23
Mark 14:61-62
Luke 7:16
John 1:1
John 5:18
John 10:30
John 10:33
John 10:36
John 13:13
John 14:9-10

And I used nothing but Sacred Scripture.
No Oral Tradition, No Early Church Fathers, No Catechism, etc.

You LOSE . . .

LOL ~ Juvenile

Scripture never says Mary is the mother of God.

 

[BreadOfLife]

LOL ~ Juvenile

Scripture never says Mary is the mother of God.

And denial ain't just a river in Egypt . . .

 

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And denial ain't just a river in Egypt . . .

Denial of the Truth suits you, since you can NOT QUOTE ONE Scripture that reveals YOUR in-DOCTRINATION of Mary being the mother of God.

 

[Taken]

DIVISIONS <--- OP

Yes Divisions:

Catholics have an elected "pope holy father".
Catholics have a "holy mother of God".

Others have Thee Eternal Heavenly Holy Father.
Others Eternal Heavenly Holy Father has no descentants.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Marymog]

I didn't say "If 1,000 say the say thing...."

Hi Mark,

Cut and pasted from Post #178 QUOTE: If 1,000 say the say thing I am getting concrete evidence.

I know you meant to write same thing not "say thing".

Sooooo now back to the subject at hand: I have used your own theory to come to a conclusion and that conclusion shows how ridiculous your theory is.

And this is the best response you have??? You can't even defend your own theory.....

Mary

 

[Marymog]

Lady I would not ask for your help if I was being eating by crocodiles, you have nothing to offer but a worse alternative, death and separation from God, and that you can keep to yourself.

As a true Christian and my love for you I would still attempt to help you.....as I am doing now.

 

[Marymog]

I, like the Pope and the Virgin Mary, am fallible. So, my statements are fallible. And my faith in the Scriptures, and the Son of God, is fallible also.
Comes down to faith, again and again.

Hi TT,

You agree with the CC on the fact that the person who is the Pope is fallible. Thankfully the Pope doesn't decide doctrine/dogma for The Church.

Since your statements are fallible anytime you say the teachings of the CC are wrong or opposite of Scripture etc. etc. shouldn't you preface all of your statements about the CC with "In my opinion the CC is wrong on the teaching of XYZ because....".

If everyone is fallible does that not mean we really don't know The Truth?

Curious Mary

 

[BreadOfLife]

Denial of the Truth suits you, since you can NOT QUOTE ONE Scripture that reveals YOUR in-DOCTRINATION of Mary being the mother of God.

You're right - I didn't quote ONE.
I gave you TWENTY-TWO passages showing that Jesus is GOD - and Mary is His (God's) Mother.

CHECKMATE.

 

[BreadOfLife]

DIVISIONS <--- OP

Yes Divisions:

Catholics have an elected "pope holy father".
Catholics have a "holy mother of God".

Others have Thee Eternal Heavenly Holy Father.
Others Eternal Heavenly Holy Father has no descentants.

Glory to God,
Taken

Then, WHY are there almost 40,000 disjointed and perpetually-splintering groups of "others" that ALL teach different doctrines??

What a mess . . .

 

[Marymog]

DIVISIONS <--- OP

Yes Divisions:

Catholics have an elected "pope holy father".
Catholics have a "holy mother of God".

Others have Thee Eternal Heavenly Holy Father.
Others Eternal Heavenly Holy Father has no descentants.

Glory to God,
Taken

Hi Taken,

The scriptures call many people holy. In fact the word “saint” is more accurately translated “holy one”

• In Hebrew the word is חסיד (chaciyd)
• The Greek Word is ἅγιος (hagios)

To call someone holy is not reserved alone to God. Holy means SET APART. Mary was most certainly set apart by God.

Therefore it is both good and right to call Mary Holy.

 

[Taken]

You're right - I didn't quote ONE.

I know I am right.

I gave you TWENTY-TWO passages

You gave References, NO QUOTES of ANY passages.

showing that Jesus is GOD

So? WHO JESUS IS, was never debated or challenged!

- and Mary is His (God's) Mother.

Your claims of Mary being the mother of God; is the challenge, that YOU can not QUOTE from Scripture because YOUR CLAIMS are NOT IN SCRIPTURE!

Laughable, your inability to stay on point, and instead keep diverting away from your claims about Mary. LOL, and then claim yourself some kind of winner. LOL

Winner of Diversion, LOL

 

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Then, WHY are there almost 40,000 disjointed and perpetually-splintering groups of "others" that ALL teach different doctrines??

What a mess . . .

Funny how you EXCLUDE Catholics from what you call a MESS.

There are thousands of people calling themselves CATHOLICS, who believe, speak and do .... what YOU proclaim is NOT what YOUR Church teaches.

And? Does YOUR criticism of them, make them ANY LESS CATHOLIC? No.

It simply makes them Catholic and SPLINTERED OFF from what you believe, and other Catholics believe.

So while you ride your high horse as Catholic dictator....wagging your finger at Protestants who choose to be members of different denominations.....You have umpteen million Catholics who are believing, speaking, doing what THEY BELIEVE...."not according to you";
Not According to what your church is teaching "THEY SHOULD BE BELIEVING....

Poor things, apparently MISSED the Cathechism Indoctrination classes, so they would be TAUGHT their beliefs.

Clean your own porch before worrying about others!!

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Taken]

Hi Taken,

The scriptures call many people holy. In fact the word “saint” is more accurately translated “holy one”

• In Hebrew the word is חסיד (chaciyd)
• The Greek Word is ἅγιος (hagios)

To call someone holy is not reserved alone to God. Holy means SET APART. Mary was most certainly set apart by God.

Therefore it is both good and right to call Mary Holy.

So? Are you unaware of the claim of BOL and my challenge?

BOL claims "Mary is the mother of God."

My challenge was for him to QUOTE ONE scripture that makes that claim.

He can't. Can you?

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[BreadOfLife]

I know I am right.
You gave References, NO QUOTES of ANY passages.

There you go trying to rationalize your way out of it again.
BOY - the OJ Jury would have LOVED you . . .

Isaiah 7:14
Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel (GOD with us).

Isaiah 9:6
For a child is born to us, A son is given to us; And the government Is upon His shoulder; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, MIGHTY GOD, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.

John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and THE WORD WAS GOD.

John 20:27-28
Thomas replied, “My Lord and my GOD!”

Matt. 2:11
On coming to the house, they saw the child with his mother Mary, and they bowed down and worshiped him. Then they opened their treasures and presented him with gifts of gold, frankincense and myrrh.

Luke 1:35
The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.

Luke 1:43
But why am I so favored, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?

John 2:1
On the third day a wedding took place at Cana in Galilee. Jesus’ mother was there,

John 19:25
Near the cross of Jesus stood his mother, his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene.

John 19:26
When Jesus saw HIS MOTHER and the disciple whom he loved standing nearby, he said to his mother, “Woman, behold, your son!”

Acts 1:14
They all joined together constantly in prayer, along with the women and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brothers.

That's what we students of Scripture calla "SLAM DUNK" . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Funny how you EXCLUDE Catholics from what you call a MESS.
There are thousands of people calling themselves CATHOLICS, who believe, speak and do .... what YOU proclaim is NOT what YOUR Church teaches.
And? Does YOUR criticism of them, make them ANY LESS CATHOLIC? No.
It simply makes them Catholic and SPLINTERED OFF from what you believe, and other Catholics believe.

So while you ride your high horse as Catholic dictator....wagging your finger at Protestants who choose to be members of different denominations.....You have umpteen million Catholics who are believing, speaking, doing what THEY BELIEVE...."not according to you";
Not According to what your church is teaching "THEY SHOULD BE BELIEVING....

Poor things, apparently MISSED the Cathechism Indoctrination classes, so they would be TAUGHT their beliefs.

Clean your own porch before worrying about others!!

Glory to God,
Taken

"Worry"??
Who's "worried"??

Baptized Catholics who are Catholics in name only are not genuine Catholics.
HOWEVER - this is different from the tens of thousands of factions in Protestantism that ALL have different sets of doctrines.

We're not talking about dissenters -which every group has.
We're talking about DIFFERENT sects altogether . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

So? Are you unaware of the claim of BOL and my challenge?

BOL claims "Mary is the mother of God."
My challenge was for him to QUOTE ONE scripture that makes that claim.
He can't. Can you?

Glory to God,
Taken

I've done it several times now.
Your "OJ Jury" mentality is what is preventing you from understanding.

Maybe we should leave DNA out of the discussion . . .

 

[Marymog]

So? Are you unaware of the claim of BOL and my challenge?

BOL claims "Mary is the mother of God."

My challenge was for him to QUOTE ONE scripture that makes that claim.

He can't. Can you?

Glory to God,
Taken

I am addressing what you wrote: Catholics have a "holy mother of God".

Mary is Holy therefor it is not JUST Catholics that have the Holy mother of God. All Christians do.

@BreadOfLife has already schooled you in regard to Mary being the mother of God.

Mary

 

[Marymog]

So? Are you unaware of the claim of BOL and my challenge?

BOL claims "Mary is the mother of God."

My challenge was for him to QUOTE ONE scripture that makes that claim.

He can't. Can you?

Glory to God,
Taken

You really don't believe Jesus was God?

From whom did you get this teaching? Did you come up with it yourself or did you read someone elses theory on this and you are following it??

Curious Mary

 

[mjrhealth]

As a true Christian and my love for you I would still attempt to help you.....as I am doing now.

Your helping no one , not even yourself.