Do NOT make images of Christ!!

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Why?
Scripture never says those things ABOUT Mary, nor vaguely implies those things, nor to call out to her, erect statues of her, bow to them, pray before them, kiss them, parade them about…
Again Why?

I will tell you why, but like everything else, you won't accept it.

The word “worship” has undergone a change in meaning in English. It comes from the Old English weorthscipe, which means the condition of being worthy of honor, respect, or dignity. To worship in the older, larger sense is to ascribe honor, worth, or excellence to someone, whether a sage, a magistrate, or God.

For many centuries, the term worship simply meant showing respect or honor, and an example of this usage survives in contemporary English. British subjects refer to their magistrates as “Your Worship,” although Americans would say “Your Honor.” This doesn’t mean that British subjects worship their magistrates as gods; it means they are giving them the honor appropriate to their office, not the honor appropriate to God.

Outside of this example, however, the English term “worship” has been narrowed in scope to indicate only that supreme form of honor, reverence, and respect that is due to God. This can lead to confusion, when people who are familiar only with the use of words in their own day and their own circles encounter material written in other times and other places.

In Scripture, the term “worship” was similarly broad in meaning, but in the early Christian centuries, theologians began to differentiate between different types of honor in order to make more clear which is due to God and which is not.

As the terminology of Christian theology developed, the Greek term latria came to be used to refer to the honor that is due to God alone, and the term dulia came to refer to the honor that is due to human beings, especially the saints. Scripture indicates that honor is due to these individuals (Matt. 10:41b). A special term was coined to refer to the special honor given to the Virgin Mary, who bore Jesus—God in the flesh—in her womb. This term, hyperdulia (huper [more than]+ dulia = “beyond dulia”), indicates that the honor due to her as Christ’s own Mother is more than the dulia given to other saints. It is greater in degree, but since Mary is a finite creature, the honor she is due is fundamentally different from the latria owed to the infinite Creator. (that Taken refuses to grasp)

Another attempt to make clear the difference between the honor due to God and that due to humans has been to use the words adore and adoration to describe the total, consuming reverence due to God and the terms venerate, veneration, and honor to refer to the respect due humans. Thus, Catholics sometimes say, “We adore God but we honor his saints.”

Unfortunately, Taken, and many anti-Catholics, appear unable or unwilling to recognize these distinctions. They confidently assert that Catholics “worship” Mary and the saints, and, in so doing, commit idolatry. This is patently false, but the education in anti-Catholic prejudice is so strong that one must patiently explain that Catholics do not worship anyone but God—at least given the contemporary use of the term. The Church is very strict about the fact that latria, adoration—what contemporary English speakers call “worship”—is to be given only to God.

Many non-Catholics may even go further. Wanting to attack the veneration of the saints, they may declare that only God should be honored.
This is in direct contradiction to the language and precepts of the Bible.

SHAKHAH

The term “worship” was used in the same way in the Bible that it used to be used in English. It could cover both the adoration given to God alone and the honor that is to be shown to certain human beings. In Hebrew, the term for worship is shakhah. It is appropriately used for humans in a large number of passages.

For example, in Genesis 37:7–9 Joseph relates two dreams that God gave him concerning how his family would honor him in coming years. Translated literally the passage states: “‘behold, we were binding sheaves in the field, and lo, my sheaf arose and stood upright; and behold, your sheaves gathered round it, and worshiped [shakhah] my sheaf.’ . . . Then he dreamed another dream, and told it to his brothers, and said, ‘Behold, I have dreamed another dream; and behold, the sun, the moon, and eleven stars were worshiping [shakhah] me.’”

In Genesis 49:2-27, Jacob pronounced a prophetic blessing on his sons, and concerning Judah he stated: “Judah, your brothers shall praise you; your hand shall be on the neck of your enemies; your father’s sons shall worship [shakhah] you (49:8).” And in Exodus 18:7, Moses honored his father-in-law, Jethro: “Moses went out to meet his father-in-law, and worshiped [shakhah] him and kissed him; and they asked each other of their welfare, and went into the tent.”

Yet none of these passages were discussing the worship of adoration, the kind of worship given to God.

Honoring Saints
Consider how honor is given. We regularly give it to public officials. In the United States it is customary to address a judge as “Your Honor.” In the marriage ceremony it used to be said that the wife would “love, honor, and obey” her husband. And just about anyone, living or dead, who bears an exalted rank is said to be worthy of honor, and this is particularly true of historical figures.

These practices are entirely Biblical. We are explicitly commanded at numerous points in the Bible to honor certain people. One of the most important commands on this subject is the command to honor one’s parents: “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long in the land which the Lord your God gives you” (Ex. 20:12). God considered this command so important that he repeated it multiple times in the Bible (for example, Lev. 19:3, Deut. 5:16, Matt. 15:4, Luke 18:20, and Eph. 6:2–3). It was also important to give honor to one’s elders in general: “You shall rise up before the hoary head, and honor the face of an old man, and you shall fear your God: I am the Lord” (Lev. 19:32). It was also important to specially honor religious leaders: “Make sacred garments for your brother Aaron [the high priest], to give him dignity and honor” (Ex. 28:2).

Honoring Saints
Consider how honor is given. We regularly give it to public officials. In the United States it is customary to address a judge as “Your Honor.” In the marriage ceremony it used to be said that the wife would “love, honor, and obey” her husband. And just about anyone, living or dead, who bears an exalted rank is said to be worthy of honor, and this is particularly true of historical figures.

These practices are entirely Biblical. We are explicitly commanded at numerous points in the Bible to honor certain people. One of the most important commands on this subject is the command to honor one’s parents: “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long in the land which the Lord your God gives you” (Ex. 20:12). God considered this command so important that he repeated it multiple times in the Bible (for example, Lev. 19:3, Deut. 5:16, Matt. 15:4, Luke 18:20, and Eph. 6:2–3). It was also important to give honor to one’s elders in general: “You shall rise up before the hoary head, and honor the face of an old man, and you shall fear your God: I am the Lord” (Lev. 19:32). It was also important to specially honor religious leaders: “Make sacred garments for your brother Aaron [the high priest], to give him dignity and honor” (Ex. 28:2).

The New Testament stresses the importance of honoring others no less than the Old Testament. The apostle Paul commanded: “Pay all of them their dues, taxes to whom taxes are due, revenue to whom revenue is due, respect to whom respect is due, honor to whom honor is due” (Rom. 13:7). He also stated this as a principle regarding one’s employers: “Slaves, be obedient to those who are your earthly masters, with fear and trembling, in singleness of heart, as to Christ” (Eph. 6:5). “Let all who are under the yoke of slavery regard their masters as worthy of all honor, so that the name of God and the teaching may not be defamed” (1 Tim. 6:1). Perhaps the broadest command to honor others is found in 1 Peter: “Honor all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the emperor” (1 Pet. 2:17).

The New Testament also stresses the importance of honoring religious figures. Paul spoke of the need to give them special honor in 1 Timothy: “Let the presbyters [priests] who rule well be considered worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in preaching and teaching” (1 Tim. 5:17). Christ himself promised special blessings to those who honor religious figures: “He who receives a prophet because he is a prophet shall receive a prophet’s reward, and he who receives a righteous man [saint] because he is a righteous man shall receive a righteous man’s reward” (Matt. 10:41).

So, if there can be nothing wrong with honoring the living, who still have an opportunity to ruin their lives through sin, there certainly can be no argument against giving honor to saints whose lives are done and who ended them in sanctity. If people should be honored in general, God’s special friends certainly should be honored.

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Statue Worship?​

People who do not know better sometimes say that Catholics worship statues. Not only is this untrue, it is even untrue that Catholics honor statues.

The fact that someone kneels before a statue to pray does not mean that he is praying to the statue, just as the fact that someone kneels with a Bible in his hands to pray does not mean that he is worshiping the Bible. Statues or paintings or other artistic devices are used to recall to the mind the person or thing depicted. Just as it is easier to remember one’s mother by looking at her photograph, so it is easier to recall the lives of the saints by looking at representations of them.

The use of statues and icons for liturgical purposes (as opposed to idols) also had a place in the Old Testament. In Exodus 25:18–20, God commanded: “And you shall make two cherubim of gold; of hammered work shall you make them, on the two ends of the mercy seat. Make one cherub on the one end, and one cherub on the other end; of one piece with the mercy seat shall you make the cherubim on its two ends. The cherubim shall spread out their wings above, overshadowing the mercy seat with their wings, their faces one to another; toward the mercy seat shall the faces of the cherubim be.”

When the time came to build the Temple in Jerusalem, God inspired David’s plans for it, which included “his plan for the golden chariot of the cherubim that spread their wings and covered the ark of the covenant of the Lord. All this he made clear by the writing from the hand of the Lord concerning it, all the work to be done according to the plan” (1 Chr. 28:18–19). In obedience to this divinely inspired plan, Solomon built two gigantic, golden statues of cherubim. (See the Catholic Answers tract, Do Catholics Worship Statues? for further information.)

Imitation is the Biblical Form of Honor​

The most important form of honoring the saints, to which all the other forms are related, is the imitation of them in their relationship with God. Paul wrote extensively about the importance of spiritual imitation. He stated: “I urge you, then, be imitators of me. Therefore I sent to you Timothy, my beloved and faithful child in the Lord, to remind you of my ways in Christ, as I teach them everywhere in every church” (1 Cor. 4:16–17). The author of the book of Hebrews also stresses the importance of imitating true spiritual leaders: “Remember your leaders, those who spoke to you the word of God; consider the outcome of their life, and imitate their faith” (Heb. 13:7).

One of the most important passages on imitation is found in Hebrews. Chapter 11 of that book, the Bible’s well-known “hall of fame” chapter, presents numerous examples of the Old Testament saints for our imitation. It concludes with the famous exhortation: “Therefore, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us also lay aside every weight, and sin which clings so closely, and let us run with perseverance the race that is set before us” (12:1)—the race that the saints have run before us.
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You do not agree that God commanded they be made?

Did I say that? No.

Study of Scripture reveals Cherubim Angels Serve God ON Earth. Protecting His Testimony, AND His People, AND Guidance to All People.

Did God instruct His testimony to be carved in stone, placed in a ark, with a semblance of Cherubim’s face to face and their wings spread covering the ark and God and His People between the Cherubim’s face to face?
Yes.

Did God ever say to erect statues of Mary, bow down to them, parade them around as a Shrine?
No.
Did God ever say Mary was naturally born without Sin?
No.
Did God ever say call on the name of and pray to dead people?
No.
Did God ever say Mary is Gods Mother?
No.
Did God ever say Mary should not consummate her marriage to Joseph or multiply or forever remain a virgin?
No.
Did God ever say Mary is the Queen of Heaven?
No.

Because it's impossible. Again, show me a verse that forbids Scripture in art form. For the second time, a statue of Jesus is not Jesus, just like a picture of your mother is not your mother. Your straw man is absurd.

There have been, and are men WHO bow dow to, praising and worshiping MAN-MADE idols, structures, with an EXPRESS tie to Gods Creation.
God does NOT “stop them” or “forbid them”, but that is NOT to say God is “powerless” to MAKE His desires KNOWN, and “powerless” to “cause” mens undesirable efforts of none “effect”.

You might recall a TEMPLE dedicated to God and it being Destroyed.
You might recall a TOWER being constructed to reach the Heavens and their language Confounded.

Maybe you have seen ART painted on velvet “supposedly” of Jesus playing basketball?

Maybe you have seen ART depicting a Nativity scene?

Would you bow down to it and pray to it?

It is not about forbidding works of ART as you are trying to deflect the point.

It is wholly about bowing down to, praying to which is exalting, worshiping “the ART WORK” as a Deity.

Mary was to be Remembered that she was a virgin, a Jew, a faithful believer of the House of David, betrothed to a man of the House of David, AND was willing to accept Gods word of His messenger and was Blessed for her willingness.

IS the Word of God not sufficient, that you MUST see a WORKS of Art to Believe?
God called that stiffnecked.
The Apostles DID NOT sanction nor bow to statues, and DID remind men to NOT be stiffnecked.

Your Church may teach statues of Mary and bowing down before them as a tribute of respect to her….YET there are numerous people claiming they ARE Catholic, and didn’t get the memo….

No, it is not. It is a veneration of the person a hunk of wood, stone, rock, metal, plaster represents. Your problem is adulterating plain English.

I don’t have to adulterate English. Just as you claim to be a Catholic, so do others, and Just as you dictate your beliefs and what you do, so do THEY. It is presumptuous to think other Catholics as well do or do not speak for themselves.

To imply ALL Catholics are on the same page as the Church dictates what IS and what ISN’T to be believed….on it’s face is silly, if one pays attention to the numerous CHANGES “The Catholic Church itself” has made over decades and centuries.

Scripture never says ALL authentic practices (or titles) must be in Scripture to be true.

So? Never said it did. A person CAN CLAIM to follow and believe Scripture…and call themselves a Christian…

However Gods DESIRE is for a man to CHOOSE BECOME MADE WHOLLY CONVERTED and HEALED BY HIS POWER, which is by, through, of HIM, not Mary and not by bowing down, to statues, or Praying to Mary.

God established His House as a House of Prayer.
God established Prayer as a WAY, for mankind to communicate TO Him.

To claim it does makes the Bible into an idol of your own making.

Stop deflecting. I said no such thing.

There is good and bad use of religious statuary.

ART works are of individuals imaginary.

To say that all religious statuary is bad

Which ARE YOUR WORDS, not mine.

proves you don't know the Bible.

What you SAY FOR ME, is not how knowledge of the Bible is determined.

Aside from deflecting from the question of WHY…
IS your answer of WHY you bow down to an image (supposedly of Mary), and pray to a dead woman, you do, because your Church said to do so….or you think Dead people can hear you….or you think Jesus not sufficient to intercede on your behalf…or you think yourself NOT Healed that you can pray directly to God yourself ?

 

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I will tell you why,

okay

but like everything else, you won't accept it.

That is a presumptuous opinion on your part. You do not even know me.

The word “worship” has undergone a change in meaning in English. It comes from the Old English weorthscipe, which means the condition of being worthy of honor, respect, or dignity. To worship in the older, larger sense is to ascribe honor, worth, or excellence to someone, whether a sage, a magistrate, or God.

Many words, phrases have become confounded to have accepted duel meanings.
Examples;
Hot can mean, Cool.
Take out can mean, food, a date, murder.

Worship is a REVERENT love and DEVOTION express-ED to A Deity, An Idol, or A determin-ED Sacred Object.

Honor is a HIGH RESPECT.
GREAT Honor is ABOVE ALL, (by some men), Accounted ONLY TO, the Lord God Almighty.

Honor…who?
COMMANDED…
Scripturally, parents.
(Eph 6:2)
PRECEPTS…
Scripturally, the aged.
(Lev 19:32)
Scripturally, men.
(1 Pet. 2:17)

Honor…how?
SUBJECTION TO…
Governing Authorities.
Acknowledgement, RESPECT…
Of an Authorities “Position”, Seat, Office.

Remembrance…What?
God IS ABOVE ALL. No position, office, seat, or the seat-ED thereof is seat-ED without Gods Approval.

Remembrance…What?
God Himself is NOT a RESPECTER, NOT a God who RESPECTS, HONORS, “persons”.
(Rom 2:11)

Remembrance..What?
Positions, seats, thrones, ARE the Distinctions, the Established, the Appointed, the Reserved (By God) FOR the Seated, that which the people at large ARE SUBJECT TO.
AND…
God Himself, Honors, Respects, NONE of Them!

 

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This doesn’t mean that British subjects worship their magistrates as gods

I disagree. Worse than worship, the word "god" has changed meaning in Christendom despite Scripture.

When all the other gods[a]
have come together,
the Lord God judges them
Ps 82:1 (CEV)

And even if the majority believes there are many so-called gods in heaven and on earth (certainly many worship such “gods” and “lords”), this is not our view.
1 COR 8:5 (VOICE)

Many in Christendom want to pretend there is only on sense to the word when it is correct to use the term in other senses - as Scripture does. From Definition of GOD:

god
1 of 2
noun
ˈgäd also ˈgȯd
plural gods
Synonyms of god
1
God : the supreme or ultimate reality: such as
a
: the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshipped (as in Judaism, Christianity, Islam, and Hinduism) as creator and ruler of the universe
Throughout the patristic and medieval periods, Christian theologians taught that God created the universe …
—Jame Schaefer
… the Supreme Being or God, the personal form of the Ultimate Reality, is conceived by Hindus as having various aspects.
—Sunita Pant Bansal
b
Christian Science : the incorporeal divine Principle ruling over all as eternal Spirit : infinite Mind
2
or less commonly God : a being or object that is worshipped as having more than natural attributes and powers
specifically : one controlling a particular aspect or part of reality
Greek gods of love and war
3
: a person or thing of supreme value
had photos of baseball's gods pinned to his bedroom wall
4
: a powerful ruler

Therefore, it is right to consider powerful rulers as gods and lords - by definition (4th sense) - in Scripture and common usage.

 

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For many centuries, the term worship simply meant showing respect or honor, and an example of this usage survives in contemporary English. British subjects refer to their magistrates as “Your Worship,” although Americans would say “Your Honor.” This doesn’t mean that British subjects worship their magistrates as gods; it means they are giving them the honor appropriate to their office, not the honor appropriate to God.

Outside of this example, however, the English term “worship” has been narrowed in scope to indicate only that supreme form of honor, reverence, and respect that is due to God. This can lead to confusion, when people who are familiar only with the use of words in their own day and their own circles encounter material written in other times and other places.

In Scripture, the term “worship” was similarly broad in meaning, but in the early Christian centuries, theologians began to differentiate between different types of honor in order to make more clear which is due to God and which is not.

As the terminology of Christian theology developed, the Greek term latria came to be used to refer to the honor that is due to God alone, and the term dulia came to refer to the honor that is due to human beings, especially the saints. Scripture indicates that honor is due to these individuals (Matt. 10:41b).

I do not Greek speak. I have no confusion of highly honoring those seated in seats, offices of authority, and Greatly Honoring God Above all persons, places, things.

A special term was coined to refer to the special honor given to the Virgin Mary, who bore Jesus—God in the flesh—in her womb. This term, hyperdulia (huper [more than]+ dulia = “beyond dulia”), indicates that the honor due to her as Christ’s own Mother is more than the dulia given to other saints. It is greater in degree, but since Mary is a finite creature, the honor she is due is fundamentally different from the latria owed to the infinite Creator.

(that Taken refuses to grasp)

ALL humans are finite creatures. Naturally born IN SIN. ALL Have an Offering to be MADE forgiven, covered, washed, sanctified (SET APART), justified (to BECOME MADE Changed and Sealed ) and Promised Redemption BY ONLY the Lord God Redeemer Himself.

 

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As the terminology of Christian theology developed…).

A special term was coined to refer to the special honor given to the Virgin Mary,

who bore Jesus—God in the flesh—in her womb.

The Word of God, (called A HOLY THING), Sent forth out of Gods Mouth, to Mary’s Virgin Womb, OF the House of David, betrothed to Joseph OF the House of David, SENT BY the POWER OF God, SENT in the Likeness AS a Jewish man, IN a BODY God Prepared:
AFTER Mary was TOLD Gods OF INTENT, BY a holy Servant OF God and SHE AGREED.
Mary FURTHER informed BY Gods holy Servant; the babe in her womb…would be a male babe.
AND Would be called…the Son of God.
AS well, Joseph was TOLD, BY a holy Servant of God to KEEP his intent regarding MARY, and MARRY her, AND Name the Babe; JESUS.
ALSO, to NOT divorce his betrothed.
ALSO:
TO NOT consummate their MARRIAGE, Until after the Birth of the Babe….and of course without a need to Remind a Jewish man UNDER THE LAW, of the Law requiring a specific WAITING period of time, AFTER the wives birthing of a son, BEFORE have intercourse with his wife.
AND Joseph AGREED.

The AGREEMENTS Made Between God and Mary, Between God and Joseph…REVEAL Mary’s and Joseph’s Obedience and Honor and Reverence UNTO GOD.. BY THEY fulfilling their own word to God …

Luke 1:
[38] And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her.

Matt 1:
[20] But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.
[21] And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
[22] Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying,
[23] Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
[24] Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife:
[25] And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.

Persons OTHER than Mary or Joseph, certainly can LEARN their history, LEARN their calling, LEARN their obedience to their calling and with Remembrance of THEY being Obedient to God, Highly Respect and Honor THEY fulfilling their own Word to God.
AND…Gods BLESSING upon them, Because and For them KEEPING their word unto God.

Mary’s BLESSING? Blessed AMONG women.
Mary’s AND Josephs’ BLESSING? Remembered from generation to generations of People and highly Respected by other persons from generation to generations.

To this day…BOTH Mary AND Joseph are remembered AMONG all persons…with honor and respect.

Catholics honor Mary AND Joseph in man made churches (implied) dedicated to God as Gods House of Prayer.

IMO, Gods House of Prayer IS ABOUT GOD. Prayers and Worship TO Him?
Yes.
Prayer offerings TO God FOR the saints?
Certainly.
Prayer offerings TO the saints?
No.
Pray TO the Father?
Yes
Pray FOR People, saints or not?
Yes

This term, hyperdulia (huper [more than]+ dulia = “beyond dulia”), indicates that the honor due to her as Christ’s own Mother is more than the dulia given to other saints. It is greater in degree, but since Mary is a finite creature, the honor she is due is fundamentally different from the latria owed to the infinite Creator. (that Taken refuses to grasp)

Another attempt to make clear the difference between the honor due to God and that due to humans has been to use the words adore and adoration to describe the total, consuming reverence due to God and the terms venerate, veneration, and honor to refer to the respect due humans. Thus, Catholics sometimes say, “We adore God but we honor his saints.”

A saint, carry’s a specific Scriptural MEANING, that being a Person who HAS become Healed, Called MADE WHOLE, body, soul, spirit….specifically been MADE WHOLE by the Power of God…called Convert-ED. (Which some per Scriptural terms, say, soul Saved, spirit Born Again, and Trusting the Body promised to be Risen in glory, per Gods Word and Gods Power, shall be manifested.)

I believe Gods House of Prayer IS about God, and God Himself gave a Reminder that His House, His Word, IS Protected by His OWN holy servants (unseen) Presence, to whit HE instructed men to MAKE visual REMINDERS via giving notice to MEN, OF the Likeness (appearance) OF His holy Cherubim Angels Servants. Their WINGS, covering His House of Prayer, and the people who enter therein, willing and able to be seated betwix His holy Cherubim, on Gods established Mercy seat.

 

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Will continue later. Tending to Animals. Yep. They are contained, do not have thumbs to unlatch their food and in my care, and must be fed, watered and their containment cleaned.

 

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Statue Worship?​

People who do not know better sometimes say that Catholics worship statues. Not only is this untrue, it is even untrue that Catholics honor statues.

I would say, Individuals who call themselves a Catholic, would best be suited to declare for themselves what THEY believe and do.

The fact that someone kneels before a statue to pray does not mean that he is praying to the statue, just as the fact that someone kneels with a Bible in his hands to pray does not mean that he is worshiping the Bible. Statues or paintings or other artistic devices are used to recall to the mind the person or thing depicted. Just as it is easier to remember one’s mother by looking at her photograph, so it is easier to recall the lives of the saints by looking at representations of them.

Seeing a Statue, Photo, etc. is effective for recalling the individual depicted by such work of art.
Calling out their NAME, Praying “TO” a representative work of Ark, WHEN they are bodily dead, Yet having some expectation, THEY Hear you… is NOT Scriptural.

The DEAD know nothing.

Pray TO the Father.
Pray FOR the saints.
Pray FOR the lost.
Pray FOR the unknowing.

The use of statues and icons for liturgical purposes (as opposed to idols) also had a place in the Old Testament. In Exodus 25:18–20, God commanded: “And you shall make two cherubim of gold; of hammered work shall you make them, on the two ends of the mercy seat. Make one cherub on the one end, and one cherub on the other end; of one piece with the mercy seat shall you make the cherubim on its two ends. The cherubim shall spread out their wings above, overshadowing the mercy seat with their wings, their faces one to another; toward the mercy seat shall the faces of the cherubim be.”

Not news. God has INFORMED manKIND, He has Holy spirit Servants ON Earth, what they look like, what they are called, and what their mission/task of Service unto God is.

Imitation is the Biblical Form of Honor​

The most important form of honoring the saints, to which all the other forms are related, is the imitation of them in their relationship with God.

There is a fine line between imitating and assuming.
Lucifer didn’t understand that fine line. God sits ABOVE everything, Lucifer Thought he could mimic God and DO the same.
ERROR, that cost him, his Estate, his Name, his Reputation.

Paul wrote extensively about the importance of spiritual imitation. He stated: “I urge you, then, be imitators of me. Therefore I sent to you Timothy, my beloved and faithful child in the Lord, to remind you of my ways in Christ, as I teach them everywhere in every church” (1 Cor. 4:16–17). The author of the book of Hebrews also stresses the importance of imitating true spiritual leaders: “Remember your leaders, those who spoke to you the word of God; consider the outcome of their life, and imitate their faith” (Heb. 13:7).

One of the most important passages on imitation is found in Hebrews. Chapter 11 of that book, the Bible’s well-known “hall of fame” chapter, presents numerous examples of the Old Testament saints for our imitation. It concludes with the famous exhortation: “Therefore, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us also lay aside every weight, and sin which clings so closely, and let us run with perseverance the race that is set before us” (12:1)—the race that the saints have run before us.
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You entered a ‘caveat’ in your commentary…
‘True spiritual leaders’ ….

It is interesting to note…the Catholic Church, has an imbedded clause in their Doctrine.
A FEW men (out of millions of Catholic persons) Select by Secret vote, ONE man to be their “true spiritual leader”, and according the Catholic Doctrine, that ONE selected, carries the weight of infallibility, per ex cathedra.

Does that mean Catholic Priests, Catholic Elders, Catholic parishioners Carte’ Blanch DO as the ONE instructs?
Appears so.
And IF and WHEN another “ONE” is selected For the parishioners, without their consideration, and THAT “ONE” changes, adds to, subtracts from the prior “ONE”…
Then what…?
A Conflicting NEW “ONE” is THEN considered “the True spiritual Leader” ?

In Catholic Doctrine…
A man elected by men, to serve Over the Catholic Church is called a POPE.
The Office in which the POPE has established Authority is called the PAPACY.

POPE, means father.
PAPACY, means office, authority, of the pope.

Of ALL the Nations and the People thereof;
God is the Father Above ALL.
His “office” so to speak IS His Kingdom, aka, His Throne.

Of ALL the Nations particularly the People thereof:
God Himself APPOINTED ONE Earthly man the title of “father” … ABRAHAM.

And God has a “Caveat” too…
Matt 23:
[9] And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

 

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Unfortunately, Taken, and many anti-Catholics,

Unfortunately SOME men do not Distinguish between ANTI- (meaning Against, opposed to) and Particular Disagreements.

YOU Should know, an ANTI-CHRIST is AGAINST, OPPOSED TO “EVERYTHING” Christ STANDS FOR.

You are not the FIRST to Direct your name calling (of anti-Catholic) to SPECIFIC persons.
You are not the FIRST to imply EVERY Catholic NEVER stands in Disagreement with ALL of Catholic Doctrine.

You do not KNOW ME. There are catholic doctrines that ARE parallel to Gods Word, that I do agree with, Because they ARE parallel to Gods Word.
And there ARE catholic doctrines that ARE NOT parallel to Gods Word that I do NOT agree with, Because they ARE NOT parallel to Gods Word.
To flat out state, I am anti-Catholic which means, I am AGAINST all Catholic Doctrines or all members of the Catholic Church….is False on its face….and Laughable every time I see A member of a Catholic Church make such an outstanding, unfounded, claim.

So eager to set yourself on Gods level, you have to make false and unfounded presumptions!

appear unable or unwilling to recognize these distinctions. They confidently assert that Catholics “worship” Mary and the saints, and, in so doing, commit idolatry. This is patently false, but the education in anti-Catholic prejudice is so strong that one must patiently explain that Catholics do not worship anyone but God—at least given the contemporary use of the term. The Church is very strict about the fact that latria, adoration—what contemporary English speakers call “worship”—is to be given only to God.

Many non-Catholics may even go further. Wanting to attack the veneration of the saints, they may declare that only God should be honored.
This is in direct contradiction to the language and precepts of the Bible.

Anti-Catholic, Anti-Catholic, Anti-Catholic….boo hoo. Who cares?
By your own implication YOU STAND AGAINST, and are ANTI- every denomination that is not Catholic. Who cares?

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Why are you making an image of Jesus' face? Are you not ashamed? Jesus is God! Stop making an image of his face! It is an insult to God. Take the icons off your wall and burn them. Truly, burn them. Destroy these idols. Moses would have burned them.

How dare you give God a face? Oh you fool! God is invisible, so worship Him as if He were invisible, you don't need an image of Him!

Why are you doing this? Burn these icons right now. Truly, God will destroy every "church" that has an icon.

You can make images of anything, but not of God! You shall not paint a face of God! Beware!

Why do you give Jesus long hair? Was Jesus gay? Oh my god. You fool, you miserable fool. You not only make images of him, you even give him long hair. What is wrong with you?

If we were making images as the word image was used on the bible days I would agree. But having a face of Jesus or making movies about Jesus (like th epassion of the Christ) which is a modern day image is not sin. as long as you do not bow before it and worship it as some living entity.

BTW: the prohibition is far more than what you said:

Exodus 20:3-5

King James Version

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3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

So following your overly legal concept, you better burn your photo albums, not turn on your TV, have no little knick knacks of any creature , and burn all books with pictures of any creature!

Thank god we do not serve such a narrow minded GOd.

 

[Lambano]

How about you guys BE the image of Christ?