Do you accuse people of Sin like the Pharisees did by the law.

[Jay Ross]

@Jack, @MatthewG

Jack, Matthew is a preterist and believes that most if not all biblical prophecy has already been fulfilled and as such, he believes that Satan has already been overcome.

We all have our quirks with regards to what we believe. We need to sometimes give grace to others who do not believe as we do.

If a person does not accept what we post after a couple of interchanges of posts, it is best left alone.

It all comes down to the source of our understanding. Some have God's revelation, others do not.

Matthew's heart is towards saving the lost. We should not be trying to call fire down from heaven to consume people who do not meet our expectations of what a "Christian" should believe. Jesus told the disciples to leave them alone.

I leave Matthew alone a lot of the time as he is not able to handle challenges to his belief system well.

Shalom

 

[Jack]

@Jack, @MatthewG

Jack, Matthew is a preterist and believes that most if not all biblical prophecy has already been fulfilled and as such, he believes that Satan has already been overcome.

We all have our quirks with regards to what we believe. We need to sometimes give grace to others who do not believe as we do.

If a person does not accept what we post after a couple of interchanges of posts, it is best left alone.

It all comes down to the source of our understanding. Some have God's revelation, others do not.

Matthew's heart is towards saving the lost. We should not be trying to call fire down from heaven to consume people who do not meet our expectations of what a "Christian" should believe. Jesus told the disciples to leave them alone.

I leave Matthew alone a lot of the time as he is not able to handle challenges to his belief system well.

Shalom

Why would Matthew be worried about saving the lost? He believes everyone will be saved regardless.

 

[Jay Ross]

Why would Matthew be worried about saving the lost? He believes everyone will be saved regardless.

Well, that has been my impression from what I have read from his posts that Mathew has a heart for the lost..

I am letting God be God with respect to Matthew's beliefs and letting God sort him out.

All that anyone of us can do is to encourage the people we rub shoulders with on this forum to do is to focus on God's word, to renew their minds and to put on the refurbished personhood that God has intended them to become in Him.

 

[Jack]

Well, that has been my impression from what I have read from his posts that Mathew has a heart for the lost..

I am letting God be God with respect to Matthew's beliefs and letting God sort him out.

All that anyone of us can do is to encourage the people we rub shoulders with on this forum to do is to focus on God's word, to renew their minds and to put on the refurbished personhood that God has intended them to become in Him.

It's the literal Bible that can change people's hearts. Matthew has drastically different beliefs than our Bible. The Bible reveals men's hearts. That's why Satan's messengers try to bend and twist the Hell out of the Bible, literally. We will be held accountable if we don't defend God's written Word.

Jude 1
22 And on some have compassion, making a distinction;
23 but others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire,

Even if they refuse to be pulled out of the fire. lol

Hebrews 4
12 For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. 13 And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account.

 

[Ghada]

Do you accuse people of Sin, -

No, God does. It's His law and His judgement.

Christian saints just don't fellowship and sup with obvious Christian sinners.

by definition you are a Child of Satan in the figurative sense just as the Pharisees who accused others by the use of the law.

Judging others by one's own law is false accusation. Just as you are doing judging others by your own doctrine.

Considering that Satan is no longer around

Satan is still around, because Jesus has not yet returned.

you could possibly figuratively do the same things he did - which should make you very well alert of your own status as a human being...

Who doesn't know their status as a human being? Unless some thinks they are a monkey or ape?

An accuser of the brethern, or just others in general.

Which is done by one's own law and doctrine not found in the Bible.

Praise God that Jesus had taken care of sin and its done with!

Really? No more sinners sinning in the world? And yet all Christians are still sinning sinners? When the Bible is forsaken, then there is no coherent doctrine.

Along with Satan being done away with

This is one way of sinners doctrinally convincing themselves they are not of the devil while sinning. Their sinning is not now done 'with him'. But it's still done against God.

He that is committing sin is of the devil.

Even in Jesus' kingdom on earth with Satan is done away with, the sinners will still be of the devil, just not sinning by and with him.

Satan 'done away with' does not stop man from sinning. He's only a tempter. Only Jesus Christ can stop sinners from sinning.

Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;

 

[MatthewG]

Jesus ate with sinners, @Ghada.

Mark 2:13-17

King James Version

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13 And he went forth again by the sea side; and all the multitude resorted unto him, and he taught them.
14 And as he passed by, he saw Levi the son of Alphaeus sitting at the receipt of custom, and said unto him, Follow me. And he arose and followed him.
15 And it came to pass, that, as Jesus sat at meat in his house, many publicans and sinners sat also together with Jesus and his disciples: for there were many, and they followed him.
16 And when the scribes and Pharisees saw him eat with publicans and sinners, they said unto his disciples, How is it that he eateth and drinketh with publicans and sinners?
17 When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

 

[MatthewG]

Have a good rest of your day, @Ghada. I am not here to judge you. I do not believe Satan is still around and disagree with people who choose to believe Jesus had only half a victory, or not a total victory as of yet today. Ill tell anyone I stand in front of... and they can disagree and think that it is crazy. Standing on the promises of God, and the Lord Yeshua, are whom that I stand by and on the foundation they laid, in which they made all things new, doing away with material, and also Satan, sin, death, hades, the false prophet, the beast. And making a way for everyone to be able to have access to Yahava, by and through Christ - and through his handiwork.

 

[Raccoon1010]

Do you accuse people of Sin, - by definition you are a Child of Satan in the figurative sense just as the Pharisees who accused others by the use of the law.


Did you know that?

Considering that Satan is no longer around - you could possibly figuratively do the same things he did - which should make you very well alert of your own status as a human being...

An accuser of the brethern, or just others in general.

Praise God that Jesus had taken care of sin and its done with! Along with Satan being done away with

The Pharisees were unjustly accusing people of sins that they weren't committing. Accusing someone of sin does not make you a child of the devil, the only thing it does is puts your salvation in jeopardy.

 

[MatthewG]

The Pharisees were unjustly accusing people of sins that they weren't committing. Accusing someone of sin does not make you a child of the devil, the only thing it does is puts your salvation in jeopardy.

Just talked to someone at work and said, sometimes the voice inside of me judges people, but its part of all us. When one knows God is not a respecter of persons and you look at how he is, youll love easier. Christians tend to judge other people not recognizing their own sins and their own mind must condemn them or its by the spirit?

 

[Taken]

Considering that Satan is no longer around -

Praise God that Jesus had taken care of sin and its done with! Along with Satan being done away with

AS God was establishing the Earth and it’s Inhabitants… Lucifer thought he could rise above God….False! His punishment was to be Cast out of Gods Heavenly Kingdom TO the Earth. His name was changed to Satan, and his title of holy servant was changed to Devil, and his description was likened to a Serpent.

Do not be fooled, Satan (and other unholy angel) occupy this Earth, looking for weak humans (just as Eve was weak) to con and trick them into going Against God and His Word.

Considering the ways OF this world, evil and wicked, I’m sure Satan is thinking himself on path bound for victory.

Satan is very acquainted with Scripture….However…he (like many men), has no clue of Gods UNDERSTANDING of Gods WORD.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Cassandra]

Yeah well God also promised to have his head curshed, so people gotta choose for themselves @Bob Estey.

Some people love to believe Satan is around.

If you love Satan being around thats all cool with me; im not gonna buy into people telling me he is when Jesus already crushed his head and he was thrown in the lake of fire now today.

Sorry, i dont fall for it anymore…

then quit bringing it up. He never said he loved Satan being around, did he? You are snarking him. Not very loving, init?

 

[MatthewG]

AS God was establishing the Earth and it’s Inhabitants… Lucifer thought he could rise above God….False! His punishment was to be Cast out of Gods Heavenly Kingdom TO the Earth. His name was changed to Satan, and his title of holy servant was changed to Devil, and his description was likened to a Serpent.

Do not be fooled, Satan (and other unholy angel) occupy this Earth, looking for weak humans (just as Eve was weak) to con and trick them into going Against God and His Word.

Considering the ways OF this world, evil and wicked, I’m sure Satan is thinking himself on path bound for victory.

Satan is very acquainted with Scripture….However…he (like many men), has no clue of Gods UNDERSTANDING of Gods WORD.

Glory to God,
Taken

May God guide.

 

[MatthewG]

then quit bringing it up. He never said he loved Satan being around, did he? You are snarking him. Not very loving, init?

May God guide.

 

[Cassandra]

May God guide.

more cryptic.

 

[MatthewG]

more cryptic.

Well I love you, and desire for you to grow in the wisdom of God and continue to seek him

 

[Cassandra]

I think you are full of prunes with a dollop of passive aggressive

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Do you accuse people of Sin

Only if they are doing things God's Word says are sinful!

A child of the devil would want them to go on living in sin and does not want them to know they are living in sin... so the followers of the devil would never point out to someone they are doing things God's Word says are sinful because the child of the devil does not care about people and does not care if they go to hell or not.

Now, the true child of God cares for people and does not want to see anybody go to hell... so YES the true child of God would let people know when they doing things God's Word says are sinful in order to help them realize that so they can repent and overcome their sin.

Glad we could get all this cleared up!

 

[MatthewG]

Thank you for sharing, Johnson. I do believe that sanctification is viable in a person who follows Yeshua. Yeshua is the wisdom of God, righteousness, and sanctification.

 

[Ghada]

Jesus ate with sinners, @Ghada.

Mark 2:13-17​

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King James Version​

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13 And he went forth again by the sea side; and all the multitude resorted unto him, and he taught them.
14 And as he passed by, he saw Levi the son of Alphaeus sitting at the receipt of custom, and said unto him, Follow me. And he arose and followed him.
15 And it came to pass, that, as Jesus sat at meat in his house, many publicans and sinners sat also together with Jesus and his disciples: for there were many, and they followed him.
16 And when the scribes and Pharisees saw him eat with publicans and sinners, they said unto his disciples, How is it that he eateth and drinketh with publicans and sinners?
17 When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Well, duh. And He drank with them too.

He just never sinned with them, nor does he call sinners to sin with Him today.

You can minister sinning with Christ all you wish and do so, but his name isn't Jesus Christ.

Once again, with this kind of response, everything from the Bible I challenged you with is true. I just can't seem to get corrected anymore.

 

[Ghada]

Have a good rest of your day, @Ghada. I am not here to judge you. I do not believe Satan is still around and disagree with people who choose to believe Jesus had only half a victory, or not a total victory as of yet today. Ill tell anyone I stand in front of... and they can disagree and think that it is crazy. Standing on the promises of God, and the Lord Yeshua, are whom that I stand by and on the foundation they laid, in which they made all things new, doing away with material, and also Satan, sin, death, hades, the false prophet, the beast. And making a way for everyone to be able to have access to Yahava, by and through Christ - and through his handiwork.

Does this include when you told that guy you were evil? I suppose so, since their no meat in all this soup here, of actually repenting and not doing evil.